* Some impressions on Linux
@ Jes and guide dog Harley
` Joseph C. Lininger
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From: Jes and guide dog Harley @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi again all,
I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good
knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100%
control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and
time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and
the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Some impressions on Linux Some impressions on Linux Jes and guide dog Harley @ ` Joseph C. Lininger ` Charles Crawford ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph C. Lininger @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup yes I would say your coming along nicely with your goal of learning Linux. I would suggest www.tldp .org as an excelent resource. Also, man pages are good, but don't forget about the info command. Some programs have more extensive documentation in this format. -- Joseph C. Lininger jbahm@pcdesk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Some impressions on Linux > Hi again all, > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux Some impressions on Linux Jes and guide dog Harley ` Joseph C. Lininger @ ` Charles Crawford ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yup, you are on the right track. I would also suggest going to www.linux.org and checking out the zillion how to links tht are up there. A number of them are vey well written and have helped me a great deal. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Jes and guide dog Harley wrote: > Hi again all, > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- -- Charlie Crawford ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux Some impressions on Linux Jes and guide dog Harley ` Joseph C. Lininger ` Charles Crawford @ ` Janina Sajka ` Chris 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Jes: Sounds right to me. As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page. Jes and guide dog Harley writes: > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com> > > Hi again all, > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux ` Janina Sajka @ ` Chris ` Janina Sajka ` Danny Crone 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Chris @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup OK this may be benefitial to me: how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are structured? Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then how would the info command for that be done? i'm assuming info cp? Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux > Hi, Jes: > > Sounds right to me. > > As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of > man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get > to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page. > > > Jes and guide dog Harley writes: > > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com> > > > > Hi again all, > > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first thing you should do besides setting the root password and > > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux ` Chris @ ` Janina Sajka ` Danny Crone 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Well, I suppose the first thing to notice is that there are sections with titles like "SYNOPSIS," and "DESCRIPTIONand SEE ALSO." But, there's a lot more, and you can use man to find out about it: man man Notice, also, that learning how to use your pager is associated with learning to use man, because man uses something else, namely a pager by default, to show you its contents. So, you would want to learn: man more or better still: man less Now, here's another cool one that you'll want to pipe through more (or less): man man -k |less Oh, and one more thing for our non-native English speakers, you can get man output in languages other than English. Do the 'man man' thing to find out how. Chris writes: > From: "Chris" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx> > > OK this may be benefitial to me: > > how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are > structured? > > > Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command > verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then > how would the info command for that be done? i'm assuming > > info cp? > > > Chris. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux > > > > Hi, Jes: > > > > Sounds right to me. > > > > As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of > > man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get > > to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page. > > > > > > Jes and guide dog Harley writes: > > > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com> > > > > > > Hi again all, > > > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE > WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > > > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is > an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > > > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be > tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > > > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first > thing you should do besides setting the root password and > > > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read > documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux ` Chris ` Janina Sajka @ ` Danny Crone ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Danny Crone @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris; +Cc: speakup I can tell you that the first part of the man page is generally a summary of the topic. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Chris wrote: > OK this may be benefitial to me: > > how are they structured, and how do I go about learning how they are > structured? > > > Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command > verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then > how would the info command for that be done? i'm assuming > > info cp? > > > Chris. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: Some impressions on Linux > > > > Hi, Jes: > > > > Sounds right to me. > > > > As a worthy next step you might want to take note of the structure of > > man pages. Figuring out how man pages are put together will help you get > > to the part you care aabout more quickly every time you use a man page. > > > > > > Jes and guide dog Harley writes: > > > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com> > > > > > > Hi again all, > > > I have some initial impressions about Linux that I would like TO SHARE > WITH THIS LIST> I want to know if I have a basic good > > > knowledge of learning Linux. First, from reading documentation, Linux is > an operating system where you, the user have full, 100% > > > control. It seems to me that even though the configuration files may be > tricky to edit or understand at first, with practice and > > > time you will get the hang of it. It also appears to me that the first > thing you should do besides setting the root password and > > > the user account is to use the man command a lot, and read > documentation. Am I on the right track or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Some impressions on Linux ` Danny Crone @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Chris wrote: > > > Also, can someone give me an idea of what is different about the man command > > verses the info command and maybe say I want to look up cp for copy, then > > how would the info command for that be done? i'm assuming > > > > info cp? > > Man is older than info. Man is more like a simple ASCII file, though it isn't ASCII, exactly. Info is an early implementation of hyperlinking. Of course, hyperlinks later became famous as on of the key features provided by world wide web technology. Info is older than the web. PS: You don't really need to ask the second part of the question above, unless you can't get things working. There's no harm with testing your theories, assumptions, and suppositions. In fact, it's advisable. In fact, my not even going to answer, because you don't need me to. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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