Soundcards Revisited

Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi All,

I decided to try this soundcard thing again.  I had some sited assistance
read me some info off of the card.  It's an isa soundblaster 16 non-pnp,
dated 1993 (?).  I have no idea what irq it uses.  Does anyone know how I
can find out what irq it is using? Or how can I specify the irq on the
command line when loading the module?  I think the reason it dant find the
card is that it doesn't know what resources it's using.

Any help would be greatly apreciated!

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi All,

How can I install the oss sound drivers? I want to see if they work with
this card.

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I decided to try this soundcard thing again.  I had some sited assistance
> read me some info off of the card.  It's an isa soundblaster 16 non-pnp,
> dated 1993 (?).  I have no idea what irq it uses.  Does anyone know how I
> can find out what irq it is using? Or how can I specify the irq on the
> command line when loading the module?  I think the reason it dant find the
> card is that it doesn't know what resources it's using.
>
> Any help would be greatly apreciated!
>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Ok Thanks I'll look at that right now.

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Why not see if you can find the sb16 modprobe line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
> and uncomment that line?  It has default parameters on it and may come up
> working.  If it doesn't, you can try adjusting the irq parameter and the
> base address parameter.
>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Jude DaShiell]

Why not see if you can find the sb16 modprobe line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
and uncomment that line?  It has default parameters on it and may come up
working.  If it doesn't, you can try adjusting the irq parameter and the
base address parameter.

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Gregory Nowak]

If you want to find out the irq, and i/o addresses the card is using, and test the card to boot, get Creative's diagnose.exe program. It runs under DOS, and it's in the drivers for DOS and win 3.1 package.

If you can't find it, or just don't want to bother trying, let me know, and I'll send you the diagnose.exe program itself.

Greg


On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 08:10:51PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I decided to try this soundcard thing again.  I had some sited assistance
> read me some info off of the card.  It's an isa soundblaster 16 non-pnp,
> dated 1993 (?).  I have no idea what irq it uses.  Does anyone know how I
> can find out what irq it is using? Or how can I specify the irq on the
> command line when loading the module?  I think the reason it dant find the
> card is that it doesn't know what resources it's using.
> 
> Any help would be greatly apreciated!
> 
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi.
That worked! It detected my sb16 during boot, and it's now listed in
/proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports.  So now should I try loading the alsa
module with the correct params?

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Why not see if you can find the sb16 modprobe line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
> and uncomment that line?  It has default parameters on it and may come up
> working.  If it doesn't, you can try adjusting the irq parameter and the
> base address parameter.
>
> --
> Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>
>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi Greg,

The default sb16 line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules turned out to have the right
irq and address.  Now to see if alsa will work using these params...

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> If you want to find out the irq, and i/o addresses the card is using, and test the card to boot, get Creative's diagnose.exe program. It runs under DOS, and it's in the drivers for DOS and win 3.1 package.
>
> If you can't find it, or just don't want to bother trying, let me know, and I'll send you the diagnose.exe program itself.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 08:10:51PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I decided to try this soundcard thing again.  I had some sited assistance
> > read me some info off of the card.  It's an isa soundblaster 16 non-pnp,
> > dated 1993 (?).  I have no idea what irq it uses.  Does anyone know how I
> > can find out what irq it is using? Or how can I specify the irq on the
> > command line when loading the module?  I think the reason it dant find the
> > card is that it doesn't know what resources it's using.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly apreciated!
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Adam Myrow]

On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> Hi.
> That worked! It detected my sb16 during boot, and it's now listed in
> /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports.  So now should I try loading the alsa
> module with the correct params?

No, because the OSS drivers are already loaded.  Test the card after
detection.  Slackware has a mixer program called rexima which is very easy
to use.  Just type rexima and use the numeric keypad 8 (say current line)
key to find out what values are set for volume, microphone, etc.  Adjust
the volume and microphone to some reasonable value and try out the
command-line play and record utilities.  You select what you want to
adjust with the up/down arrow keys and the left/right arrow keys change
values.  Pressing space on the microphone or line toggles whether you can
record from it or not.  Press "q" when done adjusting mixer values.  Try
"play somefile.wav" and "rec somefile.wav."  Substitute some other
filenames.  If you can play and record sounds, the IRQ and address are
right.  You'll have to comment out that line again in order to load the
Alsa drivers.  I've never used a non-PNP card, so I'm not familiar with
how to pass options to Alsa, but you'll need to get the Alsa drivers to
use the same IRQ and base address that the OSS ones did.  Good luck and
let us know how it goes.

Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Jude DaShiell]

If it's slackware 8.0 or 8.1 you're using I think the os sound drivers are
already the default install choices you'll use by uncommenting the right
line in rc.modules.

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Jude DaShiell]

No, not yet.  First if you've got a speaker hooked to that sound card test
the sound card by trying to play a sound file.

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Kerry Hoath]

There is documentation on the modules in the kernel source directory
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound or similar.
If you have a modern system with PCI slots you need to tell the bios
to allocate irq5 to legacy isa
so that it will show on the isa bus  otherwise Linux may never see
the interrupts from the card.
It is also possible that y ou can configure this with the pci routing subsystem
in 2.4.x and bypass the bios altogether but it is recommended
you use the bios.
non-plug 'n' play cards software set the resources; the defaults
for an sb16 are i/o port 0x220 irq 5 dma1=1 and dma2=5
Check the modules documentation you need to edit /etc/modules.conf
and put in a line like
options sb16 io=0x220 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=5

then modprobe sb16.
If you run redhat there is a sndconfig util you can run;
not sure about slackware etc. Does the box also run windows?
What are the resource settings there?

Regards, Kerry.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 08:10:51PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I decided to try this soundcard thing again.  I had some sited assistance
> read me some info off of the card.  It's an isa soundblaster 16 non-pnp,
> dated 1993 (?).  I have no idea what irq it uses.  Does anyone know how I
> can find out what irq it is using? Or how can I specify the irq on the
> command line when loading the module?  I think the reason it dant find the
> card is that it doesn't know what resources it's using.
> 
> Any help would be greatly apreciated!
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Kerry Hoath]

No; you load _either_ the alsa modules _or_
the oss modules *not* both.
Alsa has oss emulation so pick either oss drivers
or alsa with oss emulaiton.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 08:56:45PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Hi.
> That worked! It detected my sb16 during boot, and it's now listed in
> /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports.  So now should I try loading the alsa
> module with the correct params?
> 
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> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> > Why not see if you can find the sb16 modprobe line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
> > and uncomment that line?  It has default parameters on it and may come up
> > working.  If it doesn't, you can try adjusting the irq parameter and the
> > base address parameter.
> >
> > --
> > Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
bla.

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Adam Myrow wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> > That worked! It detected my sb16 during boot, and it's now listed in
> > /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports.  So now should I try loading the alsa
> > module with the correct params?
>
> No, because the OSS drivers are already loaded.  Test the card after
> detection.  Slackware has a mixer program called rexima which is very easy
> to use.  Just type rexima and use the numeric keypad 8 (say current line)
> key to find out what values are set for volume, microphone, etc.  Adjust
> the volume and microphone to some reasonable value and try out the
> command-line play and record utilities.  You select what you want to
> adjust with the up/down arrow keys and the left/right arrow keys change
> values.  Pressing space on the microphone or line toggles whether you can
> record from it or not.  Press "q" when done adjusting mixer values.  Try
> "play somefile.wav" and "rec somefile.wav."  Substitute some other
> filenames.  If you can play and record sounds, the IRQ and address are
> right.  You'll have to comment out that line again in order to load the
> Alsa drivers.  I've never used a non-PNP card, so I'm not familiar with
> how to pass options to Alsa, but you'll need to get the Alsa drivers to
> use the same IRQ and base address that the OSS ones did.  Good luck and
> let us know how it goes.
>
>
>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Yes, that's what's installed.  The oss drivers seem to work fine with my
card.

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> If it's slackware 8.0 or 8.1 you're using I think the os sound drivers are
> already the default install choices you'll use by uncommenting the right
> line in rc.modules.
>
> --
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>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Hi.  I tested the card and it works fine under oss.  Now to try alsa...


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On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> No, not yet.  First if you've got a speaker hooked to that sound card test
> the sound card by trying to play a sound file.
>
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Igor Gueths]

Alex, before trying to load Alsa I would check your kernel config to make
sure that only soundcore is in the kernel. Then unload any oss modules you
have loaded, assuming you have no oss modules in the kernel. In your case,
check the bare.i image by mounting it as a loopback filesystem. You do
this by mount -o loop bare.i /mnt.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> Hi.  I tested the card and it works fine under oss.  Now to try alsa...
>
>
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> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> > No, not yet.  First if you've got a speaker hooked to that sound card test
> > the sound card by trying to play a sound file.
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Toby Fisher]

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On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
> passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
> I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
> bla.

This is probably because you have OSS drivers as modules.

In order for alsa to work, you must build the kernel saying yes to sound,
but then no to everything else.  Then build alsa drivers, libs and utils
against those kernel sources.

Your modules then should be in the directory:

/lib/modules/kernel.version.number/kernel/sound

For example, my SB Live card, which is a pci card, has one of its modules
at:
/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o

This is using version 0.9.0beta12 of alsa, so this may vary, but I thik
this is the location for the later versions of alsa, though I think the
path you gave sounds right for 0.5.12A which I think you said you were
using.
In addition, make sure that *all* of the oss modules are gone before you
try using the alsa driver modules.

HTH

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

So I need to rebuild my kernel?
Dammit! Well better get started if I want it to finish by the time the 4.x
kernels come out...:-)

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Toby Fisher wrote:

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> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
> > passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
> > I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
> > bla.
>
> This is probably because you have OSS drivers as modules.
>
> In order for alsa to work, you must build the kernel saying yes to sound,
> but then no to everything else.  Then build alsa drivers, libs and utils
> against those kernel sources.
>
> Your modules then should be in the directory:
>
> /lib/modules/kernel.version.number/kernel/sound
>
> For example, my SB Live card, which is a pci card, has one of its modules
> at:
> /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o
>
> This is using version 0.9.0beta12 of alsa, so this may vary, but I thik
> this is the location for the later versions of alsa, though I think the
> path you gave sounds right for 0.5.12A which I think you said you were
> using.
> In addition, make sure that *all* of the oss modules are gone before you
> try using the alsa driver modules.
>
> HTH
>
> - --
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

Actually, if you have the OSS drivers and soundcore as either a module or 
built-in, you'll be fine.  Just make sure that the OSS drivers for your 
soundcard aren't *loaded* before trying to load the ALSA drivers.  If your 
OSS drivers are built right into the kernel, I don't know of a way around 
re-compiling your kernel.

          HTH.
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> So I need to rebuild my kernel?
> Dammit! Well better get started if I want it to finish by the time the 4.x
> kernels come out...:-)
> 
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> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
> > > passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
> > > I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
> > > bla.
> >
> > This is probably because you have OSS drivers as modules.
> >
> > In order for alsa to work, you must build the kernel saying yes to sound,
> > but then no to everything else.  Then build alsa drivers, libs and utils
> > against those kernel sources.
> >
> > Your modules then should be in the directory:
> >
> > /lib/modules/kernel.version.number/kernel/sound
> >
> > For example, my SB Live card, which is a pci card, has one of its modules
> > at:
> > /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o
> >
> > This is using version 0.9.0beta12 of alsa, so this may vary, but I thik
> > this is the location for the later versions of alsa, though I think the
> > path you gave sounds right for 0.5.12A which I think you said you were
> > using.
> > In addition, make sure that *all* of the oss modules are gone before you
> > try using the alsa driver modules.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > - --
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

I've tried running the alsa driver with oss  unloaded but it fails.  I'm
starting to think I need to recompile.  How do I go about doing this? I
already patched the kernel sources with speakup.

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 wrote:

> Actually, if you have the OSS drivers and soundcore as either a module or
> built-in, you'll be fine.  Just make sure that the OSS drivers for your
> soundcard aren't *loaded* before trying to load the ALSA drivers.  If your
> OSS drivers are built right into the kernel, I don't know of a way around
> re-compiling your kernel.
>
>           HTH.
> --
>           Bill in Denver
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > So I need to rebuild my kernel?
> > Dammit! Well better get started if I want it to finish by the time the 4.x
> > kernels come out...:-)
> >
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> > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
> > > > passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
> > > > I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
> > > > bla.
> > >
> > > This is probably because you have OSS drivers as modules.
> > >
> > > In order for alsa to work, you must build the kernel saying yes to sound,
> > > but then no to everything else.  Then build alsa drivers, libs and utils
> > > against those kernel sources.
> > >
> > > Your modules then should be in the directory:
> > >
> > > /lib/modules/kernel.version.number/kernel/sound
> > >
> > > For example, my SB Live card, which is a pci card, has one of its modules
> > > at:
> > > /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o
> > >
> > > This is using version 0.9.0beta12 of alsa, so this may vary, but I thik
> > > this is the location for the later versions of alsa, though I think the
> > > path you gave sounds right for 0.5.12A which I think you said you were
> > > using.
> > > In addition, make sure that *all* of the oss modules are gone before you
> > > try using the alsa driver modules.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

To accomplish what?


On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> I've tried running the alsa driver with oss  unloaded but it fails.  I'm
> starting to think I need to recompile.  How do I go about doing this? I
> already patched the kernel sources with speakup.
> 
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> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 wrote:
> 
> > Actually, if you have the OSS drivers and soundcore as either a module or
> > built-in, you'll be fine.  Just make sure that the OSS drivers for your
> > soundcard aren't *loaded* before trying to load the ALSA drivers.  If your
> > OSS drivers are built right into the kernel, I don't know of a way around
> > re-compiling your kernel.
> >
> >           HTH.
> > --
> >           Bill in Denver
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
> >
> > > So I need to rebuild my kernel?
> > > Dammit! Well better get started if I want it to finish by the time the 4.x
> > > kernels come out...:-)
> > >
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> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Toby Fisher wrote:
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> > > > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi.  It seems to work fine with oss but alsa still won't load.  I'm
> > > > > passing the irq and i/o address on the command line but it doesn't load.
> > > > > I get the same thing about no such device /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bla bla
> > > > > bla.
> > > >
> > > > This is probably because you have OSS drivers as modules.
> > > >
> > > > In order for alsa to work, you must build the kernel saying yes to sound,
> > > > but then no to everything else.  Then build alsa drivers, libs and utils
> > > > against those kernel sources.
> > > >
> > > > Your modules then should be in the directory:
> > > >
> > > > /lib/modules/kernel.version.number/kernel/sound
> > > >
> > > > For example, my SB Live card, which is a pci card, has one of its modules
> > > > at:
> > > > /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.o
> > > >
> > > > This is using version 0.9.0beta12 of alsa, so this may vary, but I thik
> > > > this is the location for the later versions of alsa, though I think the
> > > > path you gave sounds right for 0.5.12A which I think you said you were
> > > > using.
> > > > In addition, make sure that *all* of the oss modules are gone before you
> > > > try using the alsa driver modules.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Shaun Oliver]

hi alex,
have you put the following in your /etc/modules.conf file?

*FILE BEGINS*
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_mode=0666
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
*FILE ENDS*
hopefully that'll work for you.
if you have sound as a module or compiled directly in to the kernel, this 
should work.
ensure however that all y0our oss modules are unloaded.
hth

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Re: Soundcards Revisited

[Alex Snow]

Nope not yet but I'll try that one.

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On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> hi alex,
> have you put the following in your /etc/modules.conf file?
>
> *FILE BEGINS*
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> options snd major=116 cards_limit=1 device_mode=0666
> options snd-emu10k1 index=0
> *FILE ENDS*
> hopefully that'll work for you.
> if you have sound as a module or compiled directly in to the kernel, this
> should work.
> ensure however that all y0our oss modules are unloaded.
> hth
>
> --
> Shaun Oliver
>
>
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>
>
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