* Re: kernel vs. alsa?
kernel vs. alsa? Igor Gueths
@ ` Cheryl Homiak
` Gregory Nowak
` Shaun Oliver
` Toby Fisher
2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
As much as i'm hating trying to get all these mixer setting straight, I didn't
at all like the kernel drivers for my sblive. they made my sblive sound like a
cheap (cheap, not inexpensive) card, maybe because I wasn't using a mixer that
could handle them. on the other hand, I very much liked the oss package I
bought; I'm only trying to do alsa because I want to be on the speakfreely
reflector.
as for your trplayer program, there is probably a setting eluding you or
something; even with the problems i am having with my mixer settings for
recording, trplayer works fine with my .wav files.
However, I will say that for my soundblaster the kernel support was just fine; I
couldn't have been happier, so it depends on your card whether you would be
happywith the kernel support.
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` Cheryl Homiak
@ ` Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Cheryl, do you have amplified speakers? The kernel drivers for the sblive card aren't the best, but they did a good job for me in terms of sound loudness and quality for about a year and a half.
Greg
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 09:31:45PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> As much as i'm hating trying to get all these mixer setting straight, I didn't
> at all like the kernel drivers for my sblive. they made my sblive sound like a
> cheap (cheap, not inexpensive) card, maybe because I wasn't using a mixer that
> could handle them. on the other hand, I very much liked the oss package I
> bought; I'm only trying to do alsa because I want to be on the speakfreely
> reflector.
> as for your trplayer program, there is probably a setting eluding you or
> something; even with the problems i am having with my mixer settings for
> recording, trplayer works fine with my .wav files.
> However, I will say that for my soundblaster the kernel support was just fine; I
> couldn't have been happier, so it depends on your card whether you would be
> happywith the kernel support.
>
>
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* Re: kernel vs. alsa?
kernel vs. alsa? Igor Gueths
` Cheryl Homiak
@ ` Shaun Oliver
` Igor Gueths
` Cheryl Homiak
` Toby Fisher
2 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Shaun Oliver @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
the reason people like alsa is because alsa is userspace and handles only
sound.
the kernel drivers have to fight fortiming and as a result sometimes place
unecissary load on the system.
hth
--
Shaun
If little else, the brain is an educational toy.
-- Tom Robbins
EMAIL: shauno@goanna.net.au
ICQ: 76958435
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. I am having pretty bad luck getting beta11 of the alsa package to
> work. Beta9 work well with some quirks. I wonder what has so drastically
> changed in beta11 that makes it so much harder to get working? Anyway, my
> question is why does everyone like the alsa drivers better than the oss
> modules? One thing that I've heard is that the oss modules don't use full
> duplex. Is this correct? The only reason why I ask is because I am
> considering switching from alsa to the 2.4.18 sound modules to hopefully
> fix my problem with not being able to play wavs with trplayer.
>
>
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>
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` Shaun Oliver
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Shaun Oliver
` Cheryl Homiak
` Cheryl Homiak
1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi Shaun. But won't the timing issue come into play once it is integrated
in the next kernel tree? Unless you compile it as a module, I might be
able to see the above problem happening.
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> the reason people like alsa is because alsa is userspace and handles only
> sound.
> the kernel drivers have to fight fortiming and as a result sometimes place
> unecissary load on the system.
> hth
>
>
> --
> Shaun
>
> If little else, the brain is an educational toy.
> -- Tom Robbins
> EMAIL: shauno@goanna.net.au
> ICQ: 76958435
>
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
>
> > Hi all. I am having pretty bad luck getting beta11 of the alsa package to
> > work. Beta9 work well with some quirks. I wonder what has so drastically
> > changed in beta11 that makes it so much harder to get working? Anyway, my
> > question is why does everyone like the alsa drivers better than the oss
> > modules? One thing that I've heard is that the oss modules don't use full
> > duplex. Is this correct? The only reason why I ask is because I am
> > considering switching from alsa to the 2.4.18 sound modules to hopefully
> > fix my problem with not being able to play wavs with trplayer.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
>
>
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` Shaun Oliver
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Cheryl Homiak
` Gregory Nowak
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
My system never had any problems with the kernel based soud, though I suppose it
caould potentially be a problem. Maybe somebody should quit emphasizing just
userspace and start emphasizing user friendly.
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* Re: kernel vs. alsa?
kernel vs. alsa? Igor Gueths
` Cheryl Homiak
` Shaun Oliver
@ ` Toby Fisher
2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Toby Fisher @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. I am having pretty bad luck getting beta11 of the alsa package to
> work. Beta9 work well with some quirks. I wonder what has so drastically
> changed in beta11 that makes it so much harder to get working? Anyway, my
> question is why does everyone like the alsa drivers better than the oss
> modules? One thing that I've heard is that the oss modules don't use full
> duplex. Is this correct? The only reason why I ask is because I am
> considering switching from alsa to the 2.4.18 sound modules to hopefully
> fix my problem with not being able to play wavs with trplayer.
Igor,
I am successfully using b12 here, no problems.
To answer the other point, from a personal point of view, I changed
because if I played sound and used Speakup with my external synth at the
same time, I got audio break-up, don't know why, maybe it was a kernel
scheduling issue, I don't know, but ALSA has solved it and all seems fine.
I guess this could change later today however when I try to compile
Speakfreely 7.5.
Cheers, and sorry if this has already been covered, I'm catching up after
a week offline due to isp problems.
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