Editors and speakup

Editors and speakup

[Ameenah Ghoston]

	I have found it difficult to use speakup in an editor such as Vim.  Is 
there a better editor to use, or, are there some speakup key strokes that 
would make it go more smoothly.
Ameenah

Re: Editors and speakup

[Thomas D. Ward]

Hi, Emacs is the best choice here. Especially, if you toss in Emacspeak to 
for speech output.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Ameenah Ghoston wrote:

> 	I have found it difficult to use speakup in an editor such as Vim.  Is 
> there a better editor to use, or, are there some speakup key strokes that 
> would make it go more smoothly.
> Ameenah
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Editors and speakup

[Charles Hallenbeck]

I use 'nano' with pretty good success as far as cursor tracking
with speakup goes. If you know your physics, nano is like pico
only more so. It tracks the cursor better than pico and offers
other extra features too.

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Thomas D. Ward wrote:

>
> Hi, Emacs is the best choice here. Especially, if you toss in Emacspeak to
> for speech output.
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Ameenah Ghoston wrote:
>
> > 	I have found it difficult to use speakup in an editor such as Vim.  Is
> > there a better editor to use, or, are there some speakup key strokes that
> > would make it go more smoothly.
> > Ameenah
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Editors and speakup

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Have to agree on the Emacs choice, however, I have to say here and
now, that I really, really, really appreciate the cut and paste
feature of speakup!  I discovered yesterday, that I can cut from a
speakup console to one running emacs.  I'm frankly delighted!

Ann P.

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Re: Editors and speakup

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, Ann, I second this. The speakup clipboard is absolutely wonderful. 
Not only can you copy to another console, if you've logged into another 
computer, over ssh, for example, you can clipboard across country! <grin>

 
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Have to agree on the Emacs choice, however, I have to say here and
> now, that I really, really, really appreciate the cut and paste
> feature of speakup!  I discovered yesterday, that I can cut from a
> speakup console to one running emacs.  I'm frankly delighted!
> 
> Ann P.
> 
> 

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Re: Editors and speakup

[Dan Murphy]

Hi Charles.  Where can I download Nano.  I have heard of it, but never
knew where to get it.
Thanks.
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> I use 'nano' with pretty good success as far as cursor tracking
> with speakup goes. If you know your physics, nano is like pico
> only more so. It tracks the cursor better than pico and offers
> other extra features too.

Re: Editors and speakup

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hi Dan,

The URL for nano is:

http://www.nano-editor.org

The cursor tracking is not as good as emacs, but if your editing
needs are modest, this is one you can live with pretty well. It
has search and replace, regular expressions, and the cursor
tracking works when moving left and right but not yet when moving
up and down. In pico it does not work in either direction, so I
guess that means nano is half way there. Interesting that there
is so much variation among the different editors as far as the
speakup cursor tracking behavior is concerned.

Chuck


On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:

> Hi Charles.  Where can I download Nano.  I have heard of it, but never
> knew where to get it.
> Thanks.
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
>
> > I use 'nano' with pretty good success as far as cursor tracking
> > with speakup goes. If you know your physics, nano is like pico
> > only more so. It tracks the cursor better than pico and offers
> > other extra features too.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Editors and speakup

[Dan Murphy]

Hi Chuck.  Well I just installed it, and what pleases me most is that
backspace works, more or less.  One of the things I find most welcome
when writing mail.  I don't consider myself a *good* typist, but if I
make a mistake, I don't want to be floundering around to ffind it, let
alone fix it.
thanks.

On Sat,
23 Mar 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> The URL for nano is:
>
> http://www.nano-editor.org
>
> The cursor tracking is not as good as emacs, but if your editing
> needs are modest, this is one you can live with pretty well. It
> has search and replace, regular expressions, and the cursor
> tracking works when moving left and right but not yet when moving
> up and down. In pico it does not work in either direction, so I
> guess that means nano is half way there. Interesting that there
> is so much variation among the different editors as far as the
> speakup cursor tracking behavior is concerned.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:
>
> > Hi Charles.  Where can I download Nano.  I have heard of it, but never
> > knew where to get it.
> > Thanks.
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> >
> > > I use 'nano' with pretty good success as far as cursor tracking
> > > with speakup goes. If you know your physics, nano is like pico
> > > only more so. It tracks the cursor better than pico and offers
> > > other extra features too.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> Visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck
> The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (68% of Full)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Dan Murphy
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Re: Editors and speakup

[Dave Hunt <]

Hi,

Assuming you're using the Speakup keymap, try turning on the
"cursoring" toggle, once you've entered vim's "insert" mode.  I think
you'll find that it tracks your movements quite well.  To get output
reliably spoken from the shell, turn off the toggle.



-Dave