* this is a mime/iso test:
@ David Poehlman
` charles crawford
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SPEAKUP Distribution List
please let me know if this configuration is correct?
Thanks!
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
touching the internet
mailto:poehlman1@home.com
voice: 301.949.7599
http://members.home.com/poehlman1/
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread* Re: this is a mime/iso test: this is a mime/iso test: David Poehlman @ ` charles crawford ` Janina Sajka ` Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: charles crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup; +Cc: SPEAKUP Distribution List Dave, 1The configuration seems to work if the goal is to see text without any other distractions. -- charlie.On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > Thanks! > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > touching the internet > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > voice: 301.949.7599 > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: this is a mime/iso test: David Poehlman ` charles crawford @ ` Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman ` Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup; +Cc: SPEAKUP Distribution List David, You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer unless you tell us what success is. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > Thanks! > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > touching the internet > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > voice: 301.949.7599 > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Janina Sajka @ ` David Poehlman ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup It has been said that I put windows rubbish in email. I have reset my configuration and was being complained at because I was sending out uuencode. I have changed this to mime and wanted to see if that broke anything else. From what I see below, It seems not to have. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Cc: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: David, You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer unless you tell us what success is. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > Thanks! > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > touching the internet > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > voice: 301.949.7599 > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman @ ` Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Oh, that. That was last week--I forgot, sorry. Yes, your last message was very clean. This one is back to the different char set message thing. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > It has been said that I put windows rubbish in email. I have reset my > configuration and was being complained at because I was sending out > uuencode. I have changed this to mime and wanted to see if that broke > anything else. From what I see below, It seems not to have. > > Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Cc: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > David, > > You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer > unless > you tell us what success is. > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > > Thanks! > > > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > touching the internet > > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > > voice: 301.949.7599 > > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Janina Sajka @ ` David Poehlman ` Janina Sajka ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Now, that is quite strange. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: Oh, that. That was last week--I forgot, sorry. Yes, your last message was very clean. This one is back to the different char set message thing. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > It has been said that I put windows rubbish in email. I have reset my > configuration and was being complained at because I was sending out > uuencode. I have changed this to mime and wanted to see if that broke > anything else. From what I see below, It seems not to have. > > Thanks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Cc: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > David, > > You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer > unless > you tell us what success is. > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > > Thanks! > > > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > touching the internet > > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > > voice: 301.949.7599 > > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman @ ` Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman ` Thomas Ward [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202101357580.1824-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Still has the charset data ... as follows: From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Now, that is quite strange. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Janina Sajka @ ` David Poehlman ` Thomas Ward ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If I set it back to uuencode, people complain that they cannot cope with my attachments. I have three choices under mime, none, base 64 and quoted/printable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: Still has the charset data ... as follows: From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Now, that is quite strange. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman @ ` Thomas Ward ` Christopher A. Peterson ` Pete [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202101533010.3669-100000@localhost.localdom ain> ` Rich Caloggero 2 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Sounds like a typical Microsoft product. Have you ever thought about getting pine for Windows? I think in the end getting something like that would make everyone happy. They could still use Windows, but be able to send text only messages in the proper mime types. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > If I set it back to uuencode, people complain that they cannot cope with > my attachments. I have three choices under mime, none, base 64 and > quoted/printable. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > Still has the charset data ... as follows: > > > > From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> > > [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] > [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] > [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > > Now, that is quite strange. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Thomas Ward @ ` Christopher A. Peterson ` Kirk Wood ` Pete 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Christopher A. Peterson @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I've tried pine for Windows. O E is more friendly. Btw, with mutt, I've not had trouble with any of his messages. Why don't you all who are using pine get a mailer that copes with char sets better. That's basically what you're asking everyone who has O E to do. Chris On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 03:35:21PM -0500, Thomas Ward wrote: > > Sounds like a typical Microsoft product. Have you ever thought about > getting pine for Windows? > I think in the end getting something like that would make everyone happy. > They could still use Windows, but be able to send text only messages in > the proper mime types. > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > If I set it back to uuencode, people complain that they cannot cope with > > my attachments. I have three choices under mime, none, base 64 and > > quoted/printable. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:58 PM > > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > > > > Still has the charset data ... as follows: > > > > > > > > From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> > > > > [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] > > [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] > > [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] > > > > Now, that is quite strange. > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Christopher A. Peterson @ ` Kirk Wood 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Christopher A. Peterson wrote: > Btw, with mutt, I've not had trouble with any of his messages. Why don't > you all who are using pine get a mailer that copes with char sets better. > That's basically what you're asking everyone who has O E to do. Actually it would also be as easy as skipping the next two lines when you hear something about the character set. There may be an option to suppress the character set warning. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Thomas Ward ` Christopher A. Peterson @ ` Pete 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Pete @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Whear does pine for windows live? Sounds like a typical Microsoft product. Have you ever thought about getting pine for Windows? I think in the end getting something like that would make everyone happy. They could still use Windows, but be able to send text only messages in the proper mime types. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
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* Re: this is a mime/iso test: [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202101533010.3669-100000@localhost.localdom ain> @ ` Charles Crawford ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup At 03:35 PM 02/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Sounds like a typical Microsoft product. Have you ever thought about >getting pine for Windows? >I think in the end getting something like that would make everyone happy. >They could still use Windows, but be able to send text only messages in >the proper mime types. I say. I don't know if that would be a big help. I don't think Windows displays messages like the old dos lin4 by line easy to read and navigate messages with hot keys. Has anyone used pine for windows with speech and can you tell us how it works with speech? -- Charlie Crawford. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Charles Crawford @ ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup pine for windows is not really a true gui app and thus it is more trouble than it is worth. Besides, I cannot get my pop server to accept it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Crawford" <CCrawford@ACB.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: At 03:35 PM 02/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Sounds like a typical Microsoft product. Have you ever thought about >getting pine for Windows? >I think in the end getting something like that would make everyone happy. >They could still use Windows, but be able to send text only messages in >the proper mime types. I say. I don't know if that would be a big help. I don't think Windows displays messages like the old dos lin4 by line easy to read and navigate messages with hot keys. Has anyone used pine for windows with speech and can you tell us how it works with speech? -- Charlie Crawford. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman ` Thomas Ward [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202101533010.3669-100000@localhost.localdom ain> @ ` Rich Caloggero ` David Poehlman ` Kirk Wood 2 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Rich Caloggero @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Here's what I do in outlook express: 1. open the tool\options dialog. 2. goto the send page of the dialog 3. tab till you hear a checkbox with label "Reply to messages in the form in which they were sent", and uncheck it 4. tab once, and you should hear "international settings... button". activate with space or enter. 5. choose "western European (iso)" from the default encodings list and press enter to OK the dialog 6. Here's where things get weird. tab once and you sheld be on a radio button. The label is not constructed propperly so it might say something about html radioButton, not check or it may simply read the checked portion of the radio button. In any case, the label is "mail sending format" and you should use your right and left arrow keys to select "text". 7. Tab till you hear "text settings" and activate. Note if you go too far, you'll hear another radio button and then html and text settings again. This is for the news sending format, so if you send usenet news, you should deal with these in a simmilar way. 8. The text settings dialog allows you to choose encoding type (usually mime), and also how you want to indent forwards or replies (set to none to get rid of the ">" in your outgoing mail). If you choose mime, you'll get a list of "text encodings" which contains "quoted printable", "none", or "base 64". Can anyone shed some light on this? I assume its how to encode binary attachments -- how to turn binary data into a series of ascii characters which can safely be put through the mail transport system without getting mangled. What I don't know is exactly how quoted printable differs from base-64. I've got mine set to none at the moment, but maybe quoted printable is OK? Anyway, hope this helps someone. Rich Caloggero ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: 10 February, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: If I set it back to uuencode, people complain that they cannot cope with my attachments. I have three choices under mime, none, base 64 and quoted/printable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: Still has the charset data ... as follows: From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Now, that is quite strange. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Rich Caloggero @ ` David Poehlman ` Kirk Wood 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup my settings are identical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@MIT.EDU> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: Here's what I do in outlook express: 1. open the tool\options dialog. 2. goto the send page of the dialog 3. tab till you hear a checkbox with label "Reply to messages in the form in which they were sent", and uncheck it 4. tab once, and you should hear "international settings... button". activate with space or enter. 5. choose "western European (iso)" from the default encodings list and press enter to OK the dialog 6. Here's where things get weird. tab once and you sheld be on a radio button. The label is not constructed propperly so it might say something about html radioButton, not check or it may simply read the checked portion of the radio button. In any case, the label is "mail sending format" and you should use your right and left arrow keys to select "text". 7. Tab till you hear "text settings" and activate. Note if you go too far, you'll hear another radio button and then html and text settings again. This is for the news sending format, so if you send usenet news, you should deal with these in a simmilar way. 8. The text settings dialog allows you to choose encoding type (usually mime), and also how you want to indent forwards or replies (set to none to get rid of the ">" in your outgoing mail). If you choose mime, you'll get a list of "text encodings" which contains "quoted printable", "none", or "base 64". Can anyone shed some light on this? I assume its how to encode binary attachments -- how to turn binary data into a series of ascii characters which can safely be put through the mail transport system without getting mangled. What I don't know is exactly how quoted printable differs from base-64. I've got mine set to none at the moment, but maybe quoted printable is OK? Anyway, hope this helps someone. Rich Caloggero ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: 10 February, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: If I set it back to uuencode, people complain that they cannot cope with my attachments. I have three choices under mime, none, base 64 and quoted/printable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: Still has the charset data ... as follows: From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com> [ The following text is in the "Windows-1252" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Now, that is quite strange. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Rich Caloggero ` David Poehlman @ ` Kirk Wood ` David Poehlman ` Pete 1 sibling, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup When faced with text encoding schemes the best thing is to choose none. This will set it so that text that is considered "embeded" in the message will not be encoded but rather sent as the text it is. Otherwise you will sometimes get text that is then converted to something besides clean ascii. This may be the couse of David's problems. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Kirk Wood @ ` David Poehlman ` Pete 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I've set it to none. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk@1tree.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: When faced with text encoding schemes the best thing is to choose none. This will set it so that text that is considered "embeded" in the message will not be encoded but rather sent as the text it is. Otherwise you will sometimes get text that is then converted to something besides clean ascii. This may be the couse of David's problems. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Kirk Wood ` David Poehlman @ ` Pete ` David Poehlman ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Pete @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup In tools, options, send-tab international button I have a combo box set to western european iso and there is a check box for use english headers it is checked and the only other two things left in there are an OK button and cansle button. How are my messages coming threw? Pete When faced with text encoding schemes the best thing is to choose none. This will set it so that text that is considered "embeded" in the message will not be encoded but rather sent as the text it is. Otherwise you will sometimes get text that is then converted to something besides clean ascii. This may be the couse of David's problems. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Pete @ ` David Poehlman ` Pete ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup he made a slight error. click ok there and then go to test settings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <persuric@ameritech.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: In tools, options, send-tab international button I have a combo box set to western european iso and there is a check box for use english headers it is checked and the only other two things left in there are an OK button and cansle button. How are my messages coming threw? Pete When faced with text encoding schemes the best thing is to choose none. This will set it so that text that is considered "embeded" in the message will not be encoded but rather sent as the text it is. Otherwise you will sometimes get text that is then converted to something besides clean ascii. This may be the couse of David's problems. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman @ ` Pete ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Pete @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup OK, In plane text combo box set to mime and encodeing is none unchecked is the next tab I think it was some thing about use 8 bit headers or some thing like that. Pete he made a slight error. click ok there and then go to test settings. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Pete @ ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup right and that is unchecked. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <persuric@ameritech.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: OK, In plane text combo box set to mime and encodeing is none unchecked is the next tab I think it was some thing about use 8 bit headers or some thing like that. Pete he made a slight error. click ok there and then go to test settings. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Pete ` David Poehlman @ ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Your messages look fine to me while using pine for linux. On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Pete wrote: > > In tools, options, send-tab international button I have a combo box set to > western european iso and there is a check box for use english headers it is > checked and the only other two things left in there are an OK button and > cansle button. > How are my messages coming threw? > Pete > > > When faced with text encoding schemes the best thing is to choose > none. This will set it so that text that is considered "embeded" in the > message will not be encoded but rather sent as the text it is. Otherwise > you will sometimes get text that is then converted to something besides > clean ascii. This may be the couse of David's problems. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman ` Janina Sajka @ ` Thomas Ward ` Charles Hallenbeck [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202101357580.1824-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yeah, it is. Well, this message was giving the typical message about wrong character set. Your earlier message didn't. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > Now, that is quite strange. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > Oh, that. That was last week--I forgot, sorry. Yes, your last message > was > very clean. This one is back to the different char set message thing. > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > It has been said that I put windows rubbish in email. I have reset my > > configuration and was being complained at because I was sending out > > uuencode. I have changed this to mime and wanted to see if that broke > > anything else. From what I see below, It seems not to have. > > > > Thanks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Cc: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:39 PM > > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > > > > David, > > > > You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer > > unless > > you tell us what success is. > > > > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > > > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > > touching the internet > > > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > > > voice: 301.949.7599 > > > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Thomas Ward @ ` Charles Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Charles Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The "wrong character set" stuff comes from choosing mime and not having the right character set selected. The two solutions are: do not choose mime (wrong!) or choose mime and also choose iso8859-1 for the character set (right!) The way to do that in Windows is pull down some menu and click on something. The devil is in the details. Chuck On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Thomas Ward wrote: > Yeah, it is. Well, this message was giving the typical message about wrong > character set. > Your earlier message didn't. > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > Now, that is quite strange. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:10 PM > > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > > > > Oh, that. That was last week--I forgot, sorry. Yes, your last message > > was > > very clean. This one is back to the different char set message thing. > > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > > > It has been said that I put windows rubbish in email. I have reset my > > > configuration and was being complained at because I was sending out > > > uuencode. I have changed this to mime and wanted to see if that broke > > > anything else. From what I see below, It seems not to have. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Cc: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > You neglected to define success for us. I'm afraid we can't answer > > > unless > > > you tell us what success is. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > > > > > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > > > touching the internet > > > > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > > > > voice: 301.949.7599 > > > > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Visit me now at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck The Moon is Waning Crescent (2% of Full) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
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* Re: this is a mime/iso test: [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202101357580.1824-100000@toccata.rednote.ne t> @ ` Charles Crawford ` Kirk Wood 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Janina, I have not been seeing the char set message on Dave's messages for at least a week. -- charlie. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Charles Crawford @ ` Kirk Wood ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The setting that needs changed in "character set." David has been sending with "Western (Windows)" and should choose "Western (ISO)". The encoding method has nothing to do with it. The encoding scheme only affects how attachments are handled. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Kirk Wood @ ` David Poehlman ` Kirk Wood 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup when I set to uuencode, the windows char set message does not appear in people's messages from me. when I set the charset to iso which is as near as I can come that is iso western, and set the type to mime, the charset message returns. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk@1tree.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: The setting that needs changed in "character set." David has been sending with "Western (Windows)" and should choose "Western (ISO)". The encoding method has nothing to do with it. The encoding scheme only affects how attachments are handled. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` David Poehlman @ ` Kirk Wood ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 31+ messages in thread From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > when I set to uuencode, the windows char set message does not appear in > people's messages from me. when I set the charset to iso which is as > near as I can come that is iso western, and set the type to mime, the > charset message returns. Your screen reader is mis-reading the drop down box where you select the character set. Here is quite granular instructions. Go to Tools, Options menu. Go the the Send tab. Go to the International Settings button. Hit your up arrow key one time. Go to the OK button and press it. Go to the OK button and press it. Notice that the setting you are looking for is not in the same place as the setting for uuencode vs mime. I tested this before giving the advice and it works. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: ` Kirk Wood @ ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup now it says I am on vietnamese. does this make it go away? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk@1tree.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Re: this is a mime/iso test: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > when I set to uuencode, the windows char set message does not appear in > people's messages from me. when I set the charset to iso which is as > near as I can come that is iso western, and set the type to mime, the > charset message returns. Your screen reader is mis-reading the drop down box where you select the character set. Here is quite granular instructions. Go to Tools, Options menu. Go the the Send tab. Go to the International Settings button. Hit your up arrow key one time. Go to the OK button and press it. Go to the OK button and press it. Notice that the setting you are looking for is not in the same place as the setting for uuencode vs mime. I tested this before giving the advice and it works. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
* Re: this is a mime/iso test: this is a mime/iso test: David Poehlman ` charles crawford ` Janina Sajka @ ` Thomas Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, David. It looks fine to me. I am in pine today, and the message doesn't have any strange messages. So I think you got it right. On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > please let me know if this configuration is correct? > Thanks! > > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > touching the internet > mailto:poehlman1@home.com > voice: 301.949.7599 > http://members.home.com/poehlman1/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 31+ messages in thread
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