trplayer

trplayer

[Tyler Spivey]

how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i can't set the buffering options or nothing.

Re: trplayer

[Buddy Brannan]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i can't set the buffering options or nothing.

Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and critical.

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Email: davros@ycardz.com | I choose you because you're funny and kind
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                         | --the Nields

Re: trplayer

[Janina Sajka]

Or form a sentence properly ...


On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i can't set the buffering options or nothing.
>
> Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
> politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and critical.
>
>

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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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RE: trplayer

[Stephen Dawes]

Glad to see that the e-mail editors are back!

Not knowing the individual, maybe English is not his native language.

Let's not go through this crap yet again!!!



Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
Web Business Office, The City of Calgary
PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. FAX: (403) 268-6423
E-MAIL ADDRESS:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca




> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:58 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: trplayer
>
>
> Or form a sentence properly ...
>
>
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i
> can't set the buffering options or nothing.
> >
> > Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
> > politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and
> critical.
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> janina@afb.net
> (202) 408-8175
> http://www.afb.org/gov.html
>
>
> The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
>
> 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
>
> Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
> Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
>
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RE: trplayer

[Janina Sajka]

Nah, far too many typical puerille colloquisims. But, then we could just
ask him ...

Hey, Tyler, good buddy, where do you live, anyway?


On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:

> Glad to see that the e-mail editors are back!
>
> Not knowing the individual, maybe English is not his native language.
>
> Let's not go through this crap yet again!!!
>
>
>
> Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
> Web Business Office, The City of Calgary
> PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. FAX: (403) 268-6423
> E-MAIL ADDRESS:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:58 AM
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: trplayer
> >
> >
> > Or form a sentence properly ...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > > how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i
> > can't set the buffering options or nothing.
> > >
> > > Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
> > > politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and
> > critical.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > janina@afb.net
> > (202) 408-8175
> > http://www.afb.org/gov.html
> >
> >
> > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> > of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> > Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
> >
> > 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> >
> > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
> > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
> >
> >
> >
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				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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RE: trplayer

[kaare]

it's too bad we have to continue dignifying this man's ignorance by being
offended. if all he can manage to do is be a foul-mouthed creten and
that's the best human being he can be then I accept tiler with his
limitation regarding politeness.

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Nah, far too many typical puerille colloquisims. But, then we could just
> ask him ...
> 
> Hey, Tyler, good buddy, where do you live, anyway?
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:
> 
> > Glad to see that the e-mail editors are back!
> >
> > Not knowing the individual, maybe English is not his native language.
> >
> > Let's not go through this crap yet again!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
> > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary
> > PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. FAX: (403) 268-6423
> > E-MAIL ADDRESS:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:58 AM
> > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > Subject: Re: trplayer
> > >
> > >
> > > Or form a sentence properly ...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > > > how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i
> > > can't set the buffering options or nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
> > > > politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and
> > > critical.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > >
> > > janina@afb.net
> > > (202) 408-8175
> > > http://www.afb.org/gov.html
> > >
> > >
> > > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> > > of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> > > Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
> > >
> > > 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> > >
> > > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
> > > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> 
> -- 
> 
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> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
> janina@afb.net
> (202) 408-8175
> http://www.afb.org/gov.html
> 
> 
> The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
> 
> 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> 
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> Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
> 
> 
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RE: trplayer

[Janina Sajka]

Good points. Guess I still hold out hope of redemption. But then that's
just my religious tradition.

Heck, if I really get offended, I know how to build a kill file.

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, kaare wrote:

> it's too bad we have to continue dignifying this man's ignorance by being
> offended. if all he can manage to do is be a foul-mouthed creten and
> that's the best human being he can be then I accept tiler with his
> limitation regarding politeness.
>
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Nah, far too many typical puerille colloquisims. But, then we could just
> > ask him ...
> >
> > Hey, Tyler, good buddy, where do you live, anyway?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:
> >
> > > Glad to see that the e-mail editors are back!
> > >
> > > Not knowing the individual, maybe English is not his native language.
> > >
> > > Let's not go through this crap yet again!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
> > > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary
> > > PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. FAX: (403) 268-6423
> > > E-MAIL ADDRESS:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:58 AM
> > > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > Subject: Re: trplayer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or form a sentence properly ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:40:23PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> > > > > > how the hell do i configure trplayer? this is rediculus. i
> > > > can't set the buffering options or nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently don't know how to set word wrap, either. Or ask questions
> > > > > politely. Or ask questions without being unnecessarily rude and
> > > > critical.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > >
> > > > janina@afb.net
> > > > (202) 408-8175
> > > > http://www.afb.org/gov.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> > > > of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> > > > Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
> > > >
> > > > 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> > > >
> > > > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
> > > > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > >
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> >
> > --
> >
> > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > janina@afb.net
> > (202) 408-8175
> > http://www.afb.org/gov.html
> >
> >
> > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
> > of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
> > Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:
> >
> > 	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> >
> > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
> > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.
> >
> >
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net
(202) 408-8175
http://www.afb.org/gov.html


The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievment
of the past millenium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it.
Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at:

	http://www.afb.org/ebook.html

Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users.
Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.

Re: trplayer

[Buddy Brannan]

On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:57:38AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Or form a sentence properly ...
Yeah, that, too. Seems I'm dropping. Nouns. Sorta like William Shatner. Or
someone. 

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Email: davros@ycardz.com | I choose you because you're funny and kind
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Re: trplayer

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

If you have a look in your home directory, you'll find a file called
.RealNetworks_RealMediaSDK_60 (note the leading dot).  Despite the data at
the top that would suggest otherwise, this seems to be an editable text
file.  I changed the proxy setting in this file and it did take effect.
Take care with editing it as I'm not sure what the data at the top is and
how important it is.

So this stuff is editable.  Having said that, a config editor would be cool
and I think it might be somewhere on Matt Campbell's todo-someday list.
Even without one, this is still far more control than people had with the X
application.

Geoff.

trplayer

[Tyler Spivey]

maybe i should refrase my question:
How do i get trplayer to set its buffering options higher? and is trplayer's defaults to repeat the same message over and over until it's done buffering?

Re: trplayer

[Shane Wegner]

On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 03:33:47PM -0800, Tyler Spivey wrote:
> maybe i should refrase my question:
> How do i get trplayer to set its buffering options higher? and is trplayer's defaults to repeat the same message over and over until it's done buffering?

My information may be slightly out of date as I haven't
looked at trplayer in a while.  Someone has already
addressed the -q switch.  As for buffer sizes, there is
very little control trplayer actually has over things like
buffering and sound.  It's an interface to REalNetwork's
libraries so you can't set buffer sizes or even set the
soundcard on which to output.

I doubt that's a shortfall of trplayer itself, probably
just the proprietary library.

Cheers,
Shane

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trplayer

[Deedra Waters]

I think I might have figured out how to install realplayer.....I hope. I
really wish they told you how to do it, it would help a lot:p

well, now I'm trying to install the trplayer thing, I get theese errors
when I run ./trplayer.

./trplayer: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2:
cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory
Can someone tell me what I'm missing please?

Re: trplayer

[Steve Holmes]

Assuming you already copied in the real player libraries mentioned
previously, be sure and do a "ldconfig" That updates your shared library
list as I understand it.  Until you do that, I don't think those new
libraries are available to the world.  Give that a try.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Deedra Waters wrote:

> I think I might have figured out how to install realplayer.....I hope. I
> really wish they told you how to do it, it would help a lot:p
>
> well, now I'm trying to install the trplayer thing, I get theese errors
> when I run ./trplayer.
>
> ./trplayer: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2:
> cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> Can someone tell me what I'm missing please?
>
>
>
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Re: trplayer

[Johan Bergström]

The problem was that libstc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is an old library, we had
to install it separatly for compability. It doesnt have anything to do
with trlpayer itself, except that trplayer is compiled against it. The
trplayer developer should really recompile it using newer libraries.

Johan

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Assuming you already copied in the real player libraries mentioned
> previously, be sure and do a "ldconfig" That updates your shared library
> list as I understand it.  Until you do that, I don't think those new
> libraries are available to the world.  Give that a try.
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Deedra Waters wrote:
>
> > I think I might have figured out how to install realplayer.....I hope. I
> > really wish they told you how to do it, it would help a lot:p
> >
> > well, now I'm trying to install the trplayer thing, I get theese errors
> > when I run ./trplayer.
> >
> > ./trplayer: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2:
> > cannot
> > open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > Can someone tell me what I'm missing please?
> >
> >
> >
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trplayer

[ameer armaly]

Hi all.
I've been trying to compile trplayer from source, and have had some
issues, some of which I've fixed, but will document for anyone else
experiencing it in the future.
1.   config.sub, config.guess, and install.sh are missing.  I copied
config.sub and config.guess from /usr/share/automake-1.7, and wrote a
basic install.sh that copies trplayer over to /usr/local/bin; I hope that
it does what was expected!
2.  The link on the speakup site for the realsystems g2 sdk is broken.
This is the only remaining problem to compiling that I can see.  Btw, is
anyon still  maintaining trplayer?  If not, I believe I would have enough
time nowadays to maintain it, and occasionally make new releases,
especially with spring break and the summer coming up.
Thanks in Advance,



Ameer

Re: trplayer

[Alex Snow]

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the real system sdk is somewhere on real.com. I'm not exactly sure 
where it is bc it's been a while since i downloaded it but I know you 
have to fill out a stupid form and stuff before you can download it.
On 
Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:36:05PM -0500, ameer armaly wrote:
> Hi all.
> I've been trying to compile trplayer from source, and have had some
> issues, some of which I've fixed, but will document for anyone else
> experiencing it in the future.
> 1.   config.sub, config.guess, and install.sh are missing.  I copied
> config.sub and config.guess from /usr/share/automake-1.7, and wrote a
> basic install.sh that copies trplayer over to /usr/local/bin; I hope that
> it does what was expected!
> 2.  The link on the speakup site for the realsystems g2 sdk is broken.
> This is the only remaining problem to compiling that I can see.  Btw, is
> anyon still  maintaining trplayer?  If not, I believe I would have enough
> time nowadays to maintain it, and occasionally make new releases,
> especially with spring break and the summer coming up.
> Thanks in Advance,
> 
> 
> 
> Ameer
> 
> 
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Re: trplayer

[Scott Berry]

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I will send my html page along here it actually has the site.  On Tue, 2
Mar 2004, Alex Snow wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> the real system sdk is somewhere on real.com. I'm not exactly sure
> where it is bc it's been a while since i downloaded it but I know you
> have to fill out a stupid form and stuff before you can download it.
> On
> Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:36:05PM -0500, ameer armaly wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > I've been trying to compile trplayer from source, and have had some
> > issues, some of which I've fixed, but will document for anyone else
> > experiencing it in the future.
> > 1.   config.sub, config.guess, and install.sh are missing.  I copied
> > config.sub and config.guess from /usr/share/automake-1.7, and wrote a
> > basic install.sh that copies trplayer over to /usr/local/bin; I hope that
> > it does what was expected!
> > 2.  The link on the speakup site for the realsystems g2 sdk is broken.
> > This is the only remaining problem to compiling that I can see.  Btw, is
> > anyon still  maintaining trplayer?  If not, I believe I would have enough
> > time nowadays to maintain it, and occasionally make new releases,
> > especially with spring break and the summer coming up.
> > Thanks in Advance,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ameer
> >
> >
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