sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

This machine has a Windows 2000 partition on /dev/hda1 and a Linux native 
one on /dev/hda2.  I boot a kernel from a floppy, but want to switch to 
using lilo.  I'd like Windows 2000 to be the default, and "linux" as the 
secondary.  There is no /etc/lilo.conf here.  How do I describe the desired 
setup?

-Dave

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Gregory Nowak]

Depends on which distro you're using.
In slackware, simply typing
lilo
at the shell prompt gets you into a menu where you can set all that up.
Greg


On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 04:03:42PM -0500, Dave Hunt wrote:
> This machine has a Windows 2000 partition on /dev/hda1 and a Linux native 
> one on /dev/hda2.  I boot a kernel from a floppy, but want to switch to 
> using lilo.  I'd like Windows 2000 to be the default, and "linux" as the 
> secondary.  There is no /etc/lilo.conf here.  How do I describe the desired 
> setup?
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

I'm using Redhat 7.2.  If I run 'lilo' from the shell prompt, it quits 
and says lilo.conf not found.

Looks like there's a way to set it all up in linuxconf, but my changes 
aren't accepted when I try exiting.

-Dave


On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak 
wrote:

> Depends on which distro you're using.
> In slackware, simply typing
> lilo
> at the shell prompt gets you into a menu where you can set all that up.
> Greg

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Dave -
Greg meant to say "liloconfig" which lets you create that missing
lilo.conf file in Slackware. Not sure what you do in Redhat.
Chuck

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:

> I'm using Redhat 7.2.  If I run 'lilo' from the shell prompt, it quits
> and says lilo.conf not found.
>
> Looks like there's a way to set it all up in linuxconf, but my changes
> aren't accepted when I try exiting.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak
> wrote:
>
> > Depends on which distro you're using.
> > In slackware, simply typing
> > lilo
> > at the shell prompt gets you into a menu where you can set all that up.
> > Greg
>
>
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Gregory Nowak]

I'm sorry, I'm not thinking right today as a few of my posts so far suggest (grin).
The command you want is liloconfig and not lilo.
Greg



On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 04:45:28PM -0500, Dave Hunt wrote:
> I'm using Redhat 7.2.  If I run 'lilo' from the shell prompt, it quits 
> and says lilo.conf not found.
> 
> Looks like there's a way to set it all up in linuxconf, but my changes 
> aren't accepted when I try exiting.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak 
> wrote:
> 
> > Depends on which distro you're using.
> > In slackware, simply typing
> > lilo
> > at the shell prompt gets you into a menu where you can set all that up.
> > Greg
> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

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There probably is some script in Redhat for configuring lilo.conf, but I 
frankly don't know what it is. I've done mine by hand from my earliest 
days, so I'm attaching mine in the expectation that it will help, but 
without guarantees! <grin> This is /etc/lilo.conf. After you tweak this 
file to your liking you must run lilo again. It will only actually write 
the results if it thinks everything is in order.

PS: I have had very mixed results with linuxconf and no longer use it. It 
appears to me to be very touchy in the sense that it doesn't work if you 
tweak some things by hand.


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boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
compact
prompt
timeout=500
message=/boot/message
lba32
default=current
serial=0,9600N8

image=/boot/vmlinuz-new
label = new
alias = n
vga=0X317
#initrd=/boot/initrd.img-new
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=current
alias = c
vga=0X317
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=express
alias = x
vga=0X317
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "speakup_synth=dectlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=litetalk
alias = l
vga=0X317
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=bns
alias = b
vga=0X317
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz-previous
label=previous
alias = p
vga=0X317
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-previous
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

other=/dev/hda3
optional
label=dos

table = /dev/hda

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

But, do let us know! <big grin>

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:

> Thanks for providing your "lilo.conf" as an example.  I am aware that 
> you're providing it in the hope that it will help, and with no guarantees 
> <signing waver>.  
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

Thanks for providing your "lilo.conf" as an example.  I am aware that 
you're providing it in the hope that it will help, and with no guarantees 
<signing waver>.  

-Dave

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

One question:  What does the "initrd" parameter do?  

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Gregory Nowak]

As far as I know, it tells the kernel where an initial uncompressed ramdisk root image can be found. I have not phrased this probably in the best way possible, so maybe someone else can rephrase more simply.
Greg


On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 06:00:07PM -0500, Dave Hunt wrote:
> One question:  What does the "initrd" parameter do?  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

initrd is an initial ram disk. If you have such a thing for your kernel, 
you can source it in lilo.conf. Look in /boot, and match the kernel's 
version number -- e.g. vmlinuz-2.4.16-0.13 and initrd-2.4.16-0.13.img.


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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Thomas Ward]

Did you select lilo or Grub during the install? Check for a file called
/etc/grub.conf. I suspect you are using Grub as the boot loader rather than
lilo.


----- Original Message -----
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To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?


> I'm using Redhat 7.2.  If I run 'lilo' from the shell prompt, it quits
> and says lilo.conf not found.
>
> Looks like there's a way to set it all up in linuxconf, but my changes
> aren't accepted when I try exiting.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak
> wrote:
>
> > Depends on which distro you're using.
> > In slackware, simply typing
> > lilo
> > at the shell prompt gets you into a menu where you can set all that up.
> > Greg
>
>
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>

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

Hi,

I do have a '/etc/grub.conf'.  Also, I've installed a file based on 
Janina's '/lilo.conf'.  I ran lilo after creating it.  Now, I can  only 
boot my default.  I have 'prompt' and 'timeout'.  When I hear the "lilo" 
message, I hit 'shift', then 'win', for instance, and my default Linux 
partition boots, anyway.

I'm still missing something,

-Dave

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

Hmmm ...

I can't remember if it's Ctrl-X or Alt-X -- But, if you haven't replaced 
the default /boot/message file, you have to do this to get to a command 
prompt.

I don't remember which it is because I always replace my /boot/message 
with a file like the one attached. Part of the reason is the Ctrl-G chars 
that beep the speaker to let me know I'm at the lilo boot> prompt.

PS: Can you attach your lilo.conf so we can see if there's anything else?

5 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I do have a '/etc/grub.conf'.  Also, I've installed a file based on 
> Janina's '/lilo.conf'.  I ran lilo after creating it.  Now, I can  only 
> boot my default.  I have 'prompt' and 'timeout'.  When I hear the "lilo" 
> message, I hit 'shift', then 'win', for instance, and my default Linux 
> partition boots, anyway.
> 
> I'm still missing something,
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

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Hi,

Ok, I'll attach my "lilo.conf", and make a "/boot/message".  Withouth 
such a file, I get some kind of prompt out the doubletalk, since 
"serial" is enabled.  Maybe it's not the real "lilo prompt"?  


-Dave


On Sun, 6 
Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Hmmm ...
> 
> I can't remember if it's Ctrl-X or Alt-X -- But, if you haven't replaced 
> the default /boot/message file, you have to do this to get to a command 
> prompt.
> 
> I don't remember which it is because I always replace my /boot/message 
> with a file like the one attached. Part of the reason is the Ctrl-G chars 
> that beep the speaker to let me know I'm at the lilo boot> prompt.
> 
> PS: Can you attach your lilo.conf so we can see if there's anything else?
> 
> 5 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I do have a '/etc/grub.conf'.  Also, I've installed a file based on 
> > Janina's '/lilo.conf'.  I ran lilo after creating it.  Now, I can  only 
> > boot my default.  I have 'prompt' and 'timeout'.  When I hear the "lilo" 
> > message, I hit 'shift', then 'win', for instance, and my default Linux 
> > partition boots, anyway.
> > 
> > I'm still missing something,
> > 
> > -Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 

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boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
compact
timeout=0
message=/boot/message
lba32
default=win
serial=0,9600N8

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=litetalk
alias = l
vga=0X317
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

image = /boot/vmlinuz
label=bns
alias = b
vga=0X317
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

other=/dev/hda1
optional
label=win
alias =w

table = /dev/hda

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Dave:

Here's the lilo.conf that you sent earlier this evening. I have some 
comments which I've marked JANINA and END/JANINA:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
compact
timeout=0
JANINA: A timeout of 0 will not get you the opportunity to specify what 
you want to boot--because you've given yourselv 0 tenths of a second to do 
that. I suggest at least 100 here, better still something like 500 which 
would be 50 seconds;
END JANINA
 message=/boot/message 
lba32
default=win
serial=0,9600N8

image = /boot/vmlinuz
JANINA: This presumes you've got something called /boot/vmlinuz, right? 
It's probably a symbolic link to your actual kernel.
END/JANINA
label=litetalk
alias = l
vga=0X317
JANINA: Whether this command works right on your system depends on your
video and whether your kernel has support for frame buffers. For me, it
gives me a screen of 48 rows and 135 columns. Your mileage may vary.
END/JANINA 
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"
JANINA: Unless you really have two IDE CD ROMS, one in /dev/hdc and the 
other in /dev/hde, and you have scsi emmulation available to your kernel, 
you should get rid of everything after ltlk, except the closing quotation 
mark, obviously. My reason for this is that I have an IDE CD ROM burner, 
and cdrecord only talks to scsi devices, so I need to use scsi emmulation 
to burn CDR's. Ditto to all of this below.
END/JANINA

 image = /boot/vmlinuz 
label=bns 
alias = b 
vga=0X317
read-only
root=/dev/hda2
append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi"

other=/dev/hda1
optional
label=win
alias =w
JANINA: You should be able to launch any of these three with just your 
alias plus enter. So, w enter should start windows, and l enter should 
start linux with speakup support for the litetalk.
END/JANINA

 table = /dev/hda

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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

One more thing ...

In checking your file one more time I notice the "prompt" directive is 
missing. This goes in the header portion. I'd put it above the timeout 
parameter.

Also, I hadn't noticed that I still have a "table" directive in my 
lilo.conf. Shame on me for passing this on. I note from man lilo.conf that 
this is now deprecated, so it should come out.


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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Georgina]

Hi

I'm no expert but I didn't see a delay or prompt commands.  So it might be that your not being presented with a prompt although, something is booting the machine.

Gena



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>Hi,
>
>Ok, I'll attach my "lilo.conf", and make a "/boot/message".  Withouth 
>such a file, I get some kind of prompt out the doubletalk, since 
>"serial" is enabled.  Maybe it's not the real "lilo prompt"?  
>
>
>-Dave
>
>
>On Sun, 6 
>Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
>> Hmmm ...
>> 
>> I can't remember if it's Ctrl-X or Alt-X -- But, if you haven't replaced 
>> the default /boot/message file, you have to do this to get to a command 
>> prompt.
>> 
>> I don't remember which it is because I always replace my /boot/message 
>> with a file like the one attached. Part of the reason is the Ctrl-G chars 
>> that beep the speaker to let me know I'm at the lilo boot> prompt.
>> 
>> PS: Can you attach your lilo.conf so we can see if there's anything else?
>> 
>> 5 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > I do have a '/etc/grub.conf'.  Also, I've installed a file based on 
>> > Janina's '/lilo.conf'.  I ran lilo after creating it.  Now, I can  only 
>> > boot my default.  I have 'prompt' and 'timeout'.  When I hear the "lilo" 
>> > message, I hit 'shift', then 'win', for instance, and my default Linux 
>> > partition boots, anyway.
>> > 
>> > I'm still missing something,
>> > 
>> > -Dave
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> > 
>> 
>> 
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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

Hellio,

First, Thanks
!  for the sample of "lilo.conf", and the follow-up advice.  In the 
"append" lines, I'll remove all after the synth name, leaving the closing 
quote.  

There is a symbolic link called "vmlinuz" in "/boot", pointing to my real 
kernel.  I think "make install" does this when compiling kernels.

My timeout is now 1000.  Sounds like a lot, but,...


All's well but support for my sound card.

-Dave

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

Oh, sorry...

My real "lilo.conf" now has prompt and timeout commands.   It's working.

Thanks,

-Dave

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

Well, that's how it always goes. One step at a time. So, is your sound 
card the next step?


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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Dave Hunt]

It's time to revisit the sound card problem.

I have an Aureal Vortex 1.  There is no native Linux support for it.  
Nor is there support in the ALSA setup.  I got a driveer set from 
Sourceforge, unpacked it, followed the directions in the "README", and 
still can't install the modules.  The "depmod -a" command in 
"rc.sysinit" reports undefined symbols in the module "au8820.o".  


-Dave




On Mon, 
7 Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Well, that's how it always goes. One step at a time. So, is your sound 
> card the next step?
> 
> 
> 

Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Janina Sajka]

Hmmm. Don't think I'll be much help on this. Unresolved symbols sounds 
like a "back to the drawing board" kind of job.

Or, maybe it's a back to sourceforge kind of job. You might want to check 
if someone there claims it runs on RH 7.2. Or what exactly it requires, 
etc., etc. 

But, then, what's the difference between that and back to the drawing 
board. Not much, I suppose.

Might be easier to get a linux supported sound card, frankly. Don't know 
how practical a suggestion that is.


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Re: sample "lilo.conf", anyone?

[Kirk Wood]

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Dave Hunt wrote:
> It's time to revisit the sound card problem.

Not to try and a police or something, but it takes less then a minute to
let people know what your really talking about.

Somewhere I have (or had) drivers for the Aureal cards that came from the
manufacturer. Now those you had to specify which of the three chips they
used in your make command. You may want to double check that. You should
have sound built in to the kernel but *not* a driver for the sound as
well. Finally try doing a make clean and running the script again. When
the kernel is updated this is a needed step with the factory drivers.

I believe they turned over the factory drivers to sourceforge shortly
after the company faced bankrupcy.

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