Keymaps. Keyboards. ...

Keymaps. Keyboards. ...

[Buddy Brannan]

Hi guys,

OK, I actually have a keyboard layout that I like better than the last
one I submitted. I shifted everything down one row for the most part,
moved the stuff on the bottom up to the number keys on the top,
changed a couple of other keypad assignments...but it's more
consistent with the keypad definitions on the numeric keypad. I think
I might build a kernel with that keypad so I can use right alt-q to
silence the Speakup boot messages on my laptop. But I'm running into a
little behavior, and I wonder if anyone has a clue what I can do about
it? ("Don't press that key" is an answer I've already thought of.)

The FN key on my Thinkpad A21M does not, as I mentioned, activate an
embedded numeric keypad. It does do some other things (at least in a
non-Linux OS). In Linux, however, all it seems to do is stick a
message like
Keyboard: Unknown scan code 0e 63

It's something like that, but obviously i'm not typing this on that
keyboard.

I tried running showkey, but it did the same thing with that
particular key.

Anyone have any ideas about this particular key and how I can make use
of it (or at least get rid of the error message)?
-- 
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Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
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Re: Keymaps. Keyboards. ...

[Janina Sajka]

Buddy:

It's interesting to me that you get a scan code for the fn key. That 
should prove valuable in the end, though I'm not in a position to advise 
how to code for it. What I think would be very useful on the Thinkpad is 
to create a key function, perhaps FN+Control that pops up the keyboard. 
Thinkpads are great machines, but the Shift+ScrollLock thing to access the 
pop up numeric has got to go.
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> OK, I actually have a keyboard layout that I like better than the last
> one I submitted. I shifted everything down one row for the most part,
> moved the stuff on the bottom up to the number keys on the top,
> changed a couple of other keypad assignments...but it's more
> consistent with the keypad definitions on the numeric keypad. I think
> I might build a kernel with that keypad so I can use right alt-q to
> silence the Speakup boot messages on my laptop. But I'm running into a
> little behavior, and I wonder if anyone has a clue what I can do about
> it? ("Don't press that key" is an answer I've already thought of.)
> 
> The FN key on my Thinkpad A21M does not, as I mentioned, activate an
> embedded numeric keypad. It does do some other things (at least in a
> non-Linux OS). In Linux, however, all it seems to do is stick a
> message like
> Keyboard: Unknown scan code 0e 63
> 
> It's something like that, but obviously i'm not typing this on that
> keyboard.
> 
> I tried running showkey, but it did the same thing with that
> particular key.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas about this particular key and how I can make use
> of it (or at least get rid of the error message)?
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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Re: Keymaps. Keyboards. ...

[Amanda Lee]

Yes and Thinkpads are out there at some great prices too.  Recently saw
one with 500MHZ and 128MB with 10G HD for $699.  Was very very tempted!

Amanda



On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Buddy:
>
> It's interesting to me that you get a scan code for the fn key. That
> should prove valuable in the end, though I'm not in a position to advise
> how to code for it. What I think would be very useful on the Thinkpad is
> to create a key function, perhaps FN+Control that pops up the keyboard.
> Thinkpads are great machines, but the Shift+ScrollLock thing to access the
> pop up numeric has got to go.
>  On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > OK, I actually have a keyboard layout that I like better than the last
> > one I submitted. I shifted everything down one row for the most part,
> > moved the stuff on the bottom up to the number keys on the top,
> > changed a couple of other keypad assignments...but it's more
> > consistent with the keypad definitions on the numeric keypad. I think
> > I might build a kernel with that keypad so I can use right alt-q to
> > silence the Speakup boot messages on my laptop. But I'm running into a
> > little behavior, and I wonder if anyone has a clue what I can do about
> > it? ("Don't press that key" is an answer I've already thought of.)
> >
> > The FN key on my Thinkpad A21M does not, as I mentioned, activate an
> > embedded numeric keypad. It does do some other things (at least in a
> > non-Linux OS). In Linux, however, all it seems to do is stick a
> > message like
> > Keyboard: Unknown scan code 0e 63
> >
> > It's something like that, but obviously i'm not typing this on that
> > keyboard.
> >
> > I tried running showkey, but it did the same thing with that
> > particular key.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas about this particular key and how I can make use
> > of it (or at least get rid of the error message)?
> >
>
> --
>
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
> Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
> Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp
>
> Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
> King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
> http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
>
> Learn how to make accessible software at
> http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
>
>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Keymaps. Keyboards. ...

[Kirk Wood]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> It's interesting to me that you get a scan code for the fn key. That 
> should prove valuable in the end, though I'm not in a position to advise 
> how to code for it. What I think would be very useful on the Thinkpad is 
> to create a key function, perhaps FN+Control that pops up the keyboard. 
> Thinkpads are great machines, but the Shift+ScrollLock thing to access the 
> pop up numeric has got to go.

You would use the program setkeycodes to start with. Check the
Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO and it gives some info there. You might also
check the man pages. There is a way to add this into the keymap. As a
result, you should be able to remap any keycombo you want. Limitations
being that many keyboards won't handle more then three keys pressed at the
same time. I have tested two and found they ignore further keyevents once
three are pressed. Now I know why those keyboard braille programs aren't
any good.

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