one more question

one more question

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the answers to my previous question.
However, I have one more.
My friend mentioned before, uses net0 as his isp.
Under Linux, do I need to get some special software
for him to use? If so, then where can I get it from?
If not, I'm assuming I can just setup pppd as usual for his connection.
Greg

Re: one more question

[Frank Carmickle]

Nope!  Sorry.  Unless you hack the net0 dialup protocol your not going to
be able to use that as your isp with a standard ppp connection.


On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks for all the answers to my previous question.
> However, I have one more.
> My friend mentioned before, uses net0 as his isp.
> Under Linux, do I need to get some special software
> for him to use? If so, then where can I get it from?
> If not, I'm assuming I can just setup pppd as usual for his connection.
> Greg

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Re: one more question

[Kirk Wood]

I think your friend will be out of luck. If Net0 is like most free
internet access places they require their banner ad to be running or they
disconnect the call. If this is the case, you would need to get software
from them (and it would probably require X though that issue can be dealt
with).

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Re: one more question

[Gregory Nowak]

So, essentially he can't use the net
under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?
Greg


On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:21:13PM -0400, Frank Carmickle wrote:
> Nope!  Sorry.  Unless you hack the net0 dialup protocol your not going to
> be able to use that as your isp with a standard ppp connection.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Thanks for all the answers to my previous question.
> > However, I have one more.
> > My friend mentioned before, uses net0 as his isp.
> > Under Linux, do I need to get some special software
> > for him to use? If so, then where can I get it from?
> > If not, I'm assuming I can just setup pppd as usual for his connection.
> > Greg
> 
> -- 
>      Frank Carmickle
> phone:     412 761-9568
> email:     frankiec@dryrose.com
> 
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Re: one more question

[Gregory Nowak]

He doesn't have any vision problems, so that shouldn't
be a problem.
Greg


On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:41:31PM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> I think your friend will be out of luck. If Net0 is like most free
> internet access places they require their banner ad to be running or they
> disconnect the call. If this is the case, you would need to get software
> from them (and it would probably require X though that issue can be dealt
> with).
> 
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> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
> 
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Re: one more question

[Kirk Wood]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> So, essentially he can't use the net
> under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?

Oh, he can use the net, but not with that company. I guess it comes down
to he will have to pay for his access.

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free isps for linux

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Right.  I think I remember somewhere on freshmeat seeing some patch to ppp
to allow for some free internet service providor under Linux but I know
for sure it was not netzero.  It might have been for k-mart's but if it
was that they are offline now so it would not matter.

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> So, essentially he can't use the net
> under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?
> Greg
>

Re: one more question

[Janina Sajka]

Not the free Netzero service, at any rate. Perhaps the for fee is a
different story--but then I think his point is to get a free dialup. As
with most things in life, there's no free lunch online either. The price,
at least in the Netzero business plan, is all those eyeballs looking at
all those ads. Put differently, Netzero sells consumers to advertizers.
It's an ad delivery mechanism.
 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> So, essentially he can't use the net
> under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:21:13PM -0400, Frank Carmickle wrote:
> > Nope!  Sorry.  Unless you hack the net0 dialup protocol your not going to
> > be able to use that as your isp with a standard ppp connection.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the answers to my previous question.
> > > However, I have one more.
> > > My friend mentioned before, uses net0 as his isp.
> > > Under Linux, do I need to get some special software
> > > for him to use? If so, then where can I get it from?
> > > If not, I'm assuming I can just setup pppd as usual for his connection.
> > > Greg
> >
> > --
> >      Frank Carmickle
> > phone:     412 761-9568
> > email:     frankiec@dryrose.com
> >
> >
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Re: free isps for linux

[Janina Sajka]

Free isps are failing. They're just not making the money from advertisers.
Juno and Netzero are now offering "premium" service, as a result. What's
the premium? No advertising. Gosh, such a deal.
 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Raul
A. Gallegos wrote:

> Right.  I think I remember somewhere on freshmeat seeing some patch to ppp
> to allow for some free internet service providor under Linux but I know
> for sure it was not netzero.  It might have been for k-mart's but if it
> was that they are offline now so it would not matter.
>
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > So, essentially he can't use the net
> > under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?
> > Greg
> >
>
>
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Re: free isps for linux

[Kirk Wood]

I think that Juno was doing quite well with their email only service. I
believe that they may still be doing well with it. But it is hard to
generate $20 in revenue for ads while people surf. And that is about what
it takes to be profitable in the dial up arena.

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Re: one more question

[Scott Howell]

He might try freewwweb.com if they are still around. I used them briefly
while I was hunting for a dsl provider. I slogged about their sight and
found some info that allowed me to configure ppp and I was using it with
no problems. 


On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> So, essentially he can't use the net
> under Linux if his provider is net0. Right?
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:21:13PM -0400, Frank Carmickle wrote:
> > Nope!  Sorry.  Unless you hack the net0 dialup protocol your not going to
> > be able to use that as your isp with a standard ppp connection.
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for all the answers to my previous question.
> > > However, I have one more.
> > > My friend mentioned before, uses net0 as his isp.
> > > Under Linux, do I need to get some special software
> > > for him to use? If so, then where can I get it from?
> > > If not, I'm assuming I can just setup pppd as usual for his connection.
> > > Greg
> > 
> > -- 
> >      Frank Carmickle
> > phone:     412 761-9568
> > email:     frankiec@dryrose.com
> > 
> > 
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Re: free isps for linux

[Gregory Nowak]

If they were doing well with it,
then I wouldn't have canceled my free account
from them about a month ago
after having it for two years or so.
Greg


On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:42:11PM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> I think that Juno was doing quite well with their email only service. I
> believe that they may still be doing well with it. But it is hard to
> generate $20 in revenue for ads while people surf. And that is about what
> it takes to be profitable in the dial up arena.
> 
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> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
> 
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