broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Brent Harding]

			I've heard of this satellite net access thing that's supposed to be
2-way on the Kim Komando show called starband. It's from dish network, and
they include the dish, antenna, modem, and the software used.
Unfortunately, it hooks to the usb port, the modem. Another option is to
get the package from radio shack that has a tranceiver card instead of the
usb modem, with msn service, but you have to buy the PC. Which would be
usable in linux? They don't seem to offer a modem connecting to an ethernet
card to my knowledge.

Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Raul A. Gallegos]

This does not seem like a all together good solution.  On top of the difficulties mentioned below the only thing they guarantee as far as access goes is latency.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:13:42 -0600, Brent Harding wrote:

>			I've heard of this satellite net access thing that's supposed to be
>2-way on the Kim Komando show called starband. It's from dish network, and
>they include the dish, antenna, modem, and the software used.
>Unfortunately, it hooks to the usb port, the modem. Another option is to
>get the package from radio shack that has a tranceiver card instead of the
>usb modem, with msn service, but you have to buy the PC. Which would be
>usable in linux? They don't seem to offer a modem connecting to an ethernet
>card to my knowledge.



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Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[craig martin]

What happens when you want to connect the system to a hub?

Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Brent Harding]

Wow, for $70.00 a month, or $59.95 if I get a specially configured compaq
from radio shack, it's not probably worth it, but there's few options
available when dsl and cable aren't. I just hate that on some sites where I
type, and it takes awhile to echo my keystroke.
At 04:38 PM 11/20/00 -0600, you wrote:
>This does not seem like a all together good solution.  On top of the
difficulties mentioned below the only thing they guarantee as far as access
goes is latency.
>
>On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:13:42 -0600, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>>			I've heard of this satellite net access thing that's supposed to be
>>2-way on the Kim Komando show called starband. It's from dish network, and
>>they include the dish, antenna, modem, and the software used.
>>Unfortunately, it hooks to the usb port, the modem. Another option is to
>>get the package from radio shack that has a tranceiver card instead of the
>>usb modem, with msn service, but you have to buy the PC. Which would be
>>usable in linux? They don't seem to offer a modem connecting to an ethernet
>>card to my knowledge.
>
>
>
>Raul A. Gallegos -- raul@asmodean.net
>msn id: ragallegos@hotmail.com -- icq: 5283055
>http://www.asmodean.net
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Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Geoff Shang]

Hi: OK' I've used neither broadband or USB, but I'd think that you'd have
more luck with USB than a specialist transeiver card (if in fact that's
what it is). However, if you only want broadband because of the difficulty
in using remote CLI's then you might never get an adequate solution as the
internet has many bottlenecks and there will be an inherant delay in a
satellite-based system.  I'm typing this over a telnet link over a PPP
connection and it's not causing any significant problems.  But then again,
I'm used to no keyboard echo.

Geoff.

Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Kirk Wood]

A couple observations:

1.  You will need to have a driver for your equipment in either case. If
the driver isn't out there, then get to coding.

2.  Most satalite systems experiance a high latency connection though they
have high bandwidth as well. This can cause some confusion on the quality
of the conncection. For instance the echo of typed messages over telnet
might by long. When starting streamed media it may take a long time to
buffer and if the player suypports it will fall to low bandwidth
settings. Then after the stream becomes established the data will always
be there and again if supported the player will attempt to move to a
higher speed. If you are running Microslop, you will want to patch the
system to deal with the high latency. Linux deals quite well and will
realize the high bandwidth. M$ as shipped will assume a low bandwidth
connection.

3.  One of our members has been dreaming of his broadband connection and
asking questions on how he might get it for some time. I doubt he is
getting this one either. The stated cost is not significantly less then
cable or DSL. Given that we have not heard  why these haven't been
implimented, I think this is just one more theoretical discussion which
won't go anywhere.

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Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Brent Harding]

The reason cable or dsl won't work, is I'm too far away from the CO for
dsl, and cable isn't available unless I were 5 or 6 miles away from where I
am now. It'd cost more to have lines run than it's worth. I'm not fond of
the streaming audio taking a long time to buffer, I'd rather have it come
in right away, as timeout might even happen. I've not yet figured out in
windows or linux to get an effective transition between music on my system
and streaming audio, as the music fades out before the streaming stuff starts.
At 10:10 AM 11/21/00 -0600, you wrote:
>A couple observations:
>
>1.  You will need to have a driver for your equipment in either case. If
>the driver isn't out there, then get to coding.
>
>2.  Most satalite systems experiance a high latency connection though they
>have high bandwidth as well. This can cause some confusion on the quality
>of the conncection. For instance the echo of typed messages over telnet
>might by long. When starting streamed media it may take a long time to
>buffer and if the player suypports it will fall to low bandwidth
>settings. Then after the stream becomes established the data will always
>be there and again if supported the player will attempt to move to a
>higher speed. If you are running Microslop, you will want to patch the
>system to deal with the high latency. Linux deals quite well and will
>realize the high bandwidth. M$ as shipped will assume a low bandwidth
>connection.
>
>3.  One of our members has been dreaming of his broadband connection and
>asking questions on how he might get it for some time. I doubt he is
>getting this one either. The stated cost is not significantly less then
>cable or DSL. Given that we have not heard  why these haven't been
>implimented, I think this is just one more theoretical discussion which
>won't go anywhere.
>
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Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Brent Harding]

For the most part, it's what it'd do to streaming audio is what's more a
concern than a little telnet session. I'd say by far the worst delay isn't
in that, but in trying to run software speech on pre-pentium 2 machines
with 32 megs of ram. It'd throw me off because as I'd type, without typing
extremely slow, it would start speaking stuff I already typed, thus
confusing me what I was on already. That was windows-95 and wineyes demo
3.1 I used when I had to access a different machine one time.
At 03:02 PM 11/21/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi: OK' I've used neither broadband or USB, but I'd think that you'd have
>more luck with USB than a specialist transeiver card (if in fact that's
>what it is). However, if you only want broadband because of the difficulty
>in using remote CLI's then you might never get an adequate solution as the
>internet has many bottlenecks and there will be an inherant delay in a
>satellite-based system.  I'm typing this over a telnet link over a PPP
>connection and it's not causing any significant problems.  But then again,
>I'm used to no keyboard echo.
>
>Geoff.
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Re: broadband access with starband, usb, and linux

[Kirk Wood]

Brent,

First I said that streaming audio would take longer to buffer. I didn't
say it would time out. Don't try to read between the lines. Satalite is
high latency. You can take it, or do without. I would suggest that you
take it and then perhaps then you would learn more of what is and isn't
real.

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