Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Tommy Moore]

I once restled with a similar problem.
What I wanted to do was listen to a stream that was in 128 bit form and wanted to convert it live down to 24 bit so that I could hear it over my modem.
I would of just used a 24 bit station, but the station I was listening to was encoded in 128 bit which there wasn't a lower rate bit for, but I never figured that one out so I was stuck.
Hehe.

hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

			If I telnet to a system that has a sound card in it, and get it to start
playing some streaming content from some site, how can I make it so I can
hear it on my system?
I want to do this to lower the bandwidth on streams I just can't seem to
get in any way. I know there's computer to radio transmitters to do it, but
I need something that'll go quite a ways away. It seems like shoutcast
comes in the best, but the stuff I want to listen to is in realaudio form,
not a problem to get it played on the remote system, as I'll be able to get
a free command line program called trplayer on it, but how to get the
output that goes to their speakers to mine is the tough part.	

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

Only way I know of, probably illegal, telnet to the box with a lot of
bandwidth, play it as you would on your own machine, and hook a powerfull
fm transmitter to the remote end's output jack. Going 30 miles this way
will surely get one caught, but there must be a better way.
At 12:05 AM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I once restled with a similar problem.
>What I wanted to do was listen to a stream that was in 128 bit form and
wanted to convert it live down to 24 bit so that I could hear it over my
modem.
>I would of just used a 24 bit station, but the station I was listening to
was encoded in 128 bit which there wasn't a lower rate bit for, but I never
figured that one out so I was stuck.
>Hehe.
>
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Kirk Wood]

It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet you
are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
prohibited or some such thing).

What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the streaming
data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 

-- 
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Charles Hallenbeck]

On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
> As far as changing the bit rate it is
> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
> 
> 
Kirk and Brent -

If you can run trplayer on the remote system you can probably also run
'vsound' - which means you can convert that 128kb stream to a wave
file. Then you can use lame to encode it into mp3 at 24 or even 16 kb,
mono if you really want to squeeze it, and then resend it to yourself. Of
course that is not 'real time' but it gets you the data at whatever rate
you wish.

Chuck.




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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Kirk Wood]

Here is how you get audio streams:
go to the site direct and get them.

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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

Oh, there's no way to get audio over telnet like that? I was hoping some
how I could listen to high bandwidth streams at a bandwidth I can work with
on my modem, as there's quite few streams 20k and under.
At 08:36 AM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet you
>are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
>carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
>prohibited or some such thing).
>
>What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the streaming
>data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
>most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
>
>-- 
>Kirk Wood
>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>------------------
>
>It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

I've tried that, but I get a lot of breakup, thus the problem of why I'd
want to use a remote system. I went to a site called dslreports.com, and
they tell me I'm over 30000 feet from the nearest central office, which is
probably too far.
At 02:28 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Here is how you get audio streams:
>go to the site direct and get them.
>
>-- 
>Kirk Wood
>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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>It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Kirk Wood]

You could find you have more problems (not less) if you tried the route
you are thinking of. After all, now you have two connections to go sour
instead of one.

-- 
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Chris Nestrud]

You might able to use the enlightenment sound daemon (ESD). Have the
remote computer run its stream through an ESD server, then use esdplay or
something on your local box to connect to the remote esd server and play
its audio. Bitrate and such will probably have to match. And this is just
an idea.

Chris


On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:

> It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet you
> are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
> carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
> prohibited or some such thing).
> 
> What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the streaming
> data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> ------------------
> 
> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> 
> 
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

What, would the server run on the remote machine? Would it convert the
bitrate to something my modem can handle?
At 04:59 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>You might able to use the enlightenment sound daemon (ESD). Have the
>remote computer run its stream through an ESD server, then use esdplay or
>something on your local box to connect to the remote esd server and play
>its audio. Bitrate and such will probably have to match. And this is just
>an idea.
>
>Chris
>
>
>On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
>
>> It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet you
>> are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
>> carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
>> prohibited or some such thing).
>> 
>> What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the streaming
>> data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
>> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kirk Wood
>> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>> ------------------
>> 
>> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>> 
>> 
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Kirk Wood]

I fail to understand how this scheme could possibly help real time. Unless
that is, you are stuck with an ISP with limited connectivity and happen to
have a fast connection to some server which has a better ISP.

The other posibility is if you could get permision to setup a damaen
capable of translating a stream into a lower bandwidth stream to which you
then connect via the new streams software.

But either of these are really a large task to be undertaken and not
likely to happen unless you happen to run your own co-located server, or
have a friend who runs one. I just can't imagine an administrator
leisurely handing out such permsions. And if you are at the point of
asking if this can be done via telnet, I doubt you are proficient enough
to be ready for the task.

-- 
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Victor Tsaran]

How about using Shoutcast server? You start stream from a 128K stream, then
with IPchains forward it to the IP address (you can fake one) to the
Shoutcast server, then connect to the Shoutcast server from your own
machine. Of course, Telnet will not help you in this cast, only for issuing
commands remotely.
Best,
Vic

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system


> Oh, there's no way to get audio over telnet like that? I was hoping some
> how I could listen to high bandwidth streams at a bandwidth I can work
with
> on my modem, as there's quite few streams 20k and under.
> At 08:36 AM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet
you
> >are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
> >carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
> >prohibited or some such thing).
> >
> >What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the
streaming
> >data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
> >most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers.
> >
> >--
> >Kirk Wood
> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >------------------
> >
> >It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> >
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

Wow, could recording be done this way too, so I can record stuff that takes
up the recording process to send over the net. What comes to mind is stuff
like dialpad with evoice, if I get a really funny message, I'd want to
record it, but I can't because dialpad reserves the recording for sending
to the other party. In the case of evoice, there is nobody to talk to to
record that way. If I, again, telnet to this remote system, use alsarecord
could I get what's coming out of my sound card recorded in to a file, even
when it's own recording channel is in use? My sblive seems to not allow
more than one recording on at a time.

At 04:45 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>You could find you have more problems (not less) if you tried the route
>you are thinking of. After all, now you have two connections to go sour
>instead of one.
>
>-- 
>Kirk Wood
>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>------------------
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>It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

What would ipchains do with it? Suppose I use trplayer on the remote end to
start up the 128k show I choose, maybe Nettqalklive or something I can
never get in any other way. If I run the shoutcast server on the remote end
and freeamp in to it, will it do the bitrate conversion so I can receive it?
At 05:47 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
>How about using Shoutcast server? You start stream from a 128K stream, then
>with IPchains forward it to the IP address (you can fake one) to the
>Shoutcast server, then connect to the Shoutcast server from your own
>machine. Of course, Telnet will not help you in this cast, only for issuing
>commands remotely.
>Best,
>Vic
>
>******* ******* *******
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>alive!
>Here is the URL:
>http://nimbus.ocis.temple.edu/~vtsaran/
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:29 PM
>Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system
>
>
>> Oh, there's no way to get audio over telnet like that? I was hoping some
>> how I could listen to high bandwidth streams at a bandwidth I can work
>with
>> on my modem, as there's quite few streams 20k and under.
>> At 08:36 AM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet
>you
>> >are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
>> >carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
>> >prohibited or some such thing).
>> >
>> >What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the
>streaming
>> >data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
>> >most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Kirk Wood
>> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>> >------------------
>> >
>> >It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>> >
>> >
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Victor Tsaran]

No, bitrates would have to match.
Best,
Vic

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system


> What, would the server run on the remote machine? Would it convert the
> bitrate to something my modem can handle?
> At 04:59 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >You might able to use the enlightenment sound daemon (ESD). Have the
> >remote computer run its stream through an ESD server, then use esdplay or
> >something on your local box to connect to the remote esd server and play
> >its audio. Bitrate and such will probably have to match. And this is just
> >an idea.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
> >
> >> It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet
you
> >> are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands
are
> >> carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
> >> prohibited or some such thing).
> >>
> >> What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the
streaming
> >> data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
> >> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kirk Wood
> >> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >> ------------------
> >>
> >> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Victor Tsaran]

Why not? SB Live allows to record from multiple sources and into multiple
sources!
Vic

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system


> Wow, could recording be done this way too, so I can record stuff that
takes
> up the recording process to send over the net. What comes to mind is stuff
> like dialpad with evoice, if I get a really funny message, I'd want to
> record it, but I can't because dialpad reserves the recording for sending
> to the other party. In the case of evoice, there is nobody to talk to to
> record that way. If I, again, telnet to this remote system, use alsarecord
> could I get what's coming out of my sound card recorded in to a file, even
> when it's own recording channel is in use? My sblive seems to not allow
> more than one recording on at a time.
>
> At 04:45 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >You could find you have more problems (not less) if you tried the route
> >you are thinking of. After all, now you have two connections to go sour
> >instead of one.
> >
> >--
> >Kirk Wood
> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >------------------
> >
> >It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Victor Tsaran]

If I am not mistaken, Shoutcast can do bit rate conversions.
Best,
Vic

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system


> What would ipchains do with it? Suppose I use trplayer on the remote end
to
> start up the 128k show I choose, maybe Nettqalklive or something I can
> never get in any other way. If I run the shoutcast server on the remote
end
> and freeamp in to it, will it do the bitrate conversion so I can receive
it?
> At 05:47 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >How about using Shoutcast server? You start stream from a 128K stream,
then
> >with IPchains forward it to the IP address (you can fake one) to the
> >Shoutcast server, then connect to the Shoutcast server from your own
> >machine. Of course, Telnet will not help you in this cast, only for
issuing
> >commands remotely.
> >Best,
> >Vic
> >
> >******* ******* *******
> >have you thought of visiting Cybertsar's Internet Kingdom? It is still
> >alive!
> >Here is the URL:
> >http://nimbus.ocis.temple.edu/~vtsaran/
> >******* ******* *******
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system
> >
> >
> >> Oh, there's no way to get audio over telnet like that? I was hoping
some
> >> how I could listen to high bandwidth streams at a bandwidth I can work
> >with
> >> on my modem, as there's quite few streams 20k and under.
> >> At 08:36 AM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet
> >you
> >> >are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands
are
> >> >carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
> >> >prohibited or some such thing).
> >> >
> >> >What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the
> >streaming
> >> >data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
> >> >most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Kirk Wood
> >> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >> >------------------
> >> >
> >> >It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Brent:

OK, there are 2 ways I know of doing this, and both amount to the same
thing.  If your card allows you to record the output, then you could use a
streaming technology that accepts source material from your soundcard to
relay this on.  As an example, both icecast with liveice (if you get it
working), or speak freely's sfvod server would do this.  Gene uses svod for
this sometimes.  If your soundcard does NOT allow you to record the output
in its driver, you could accomplish this anyway by running a cable from the
line-out to the line-in of the same card, taking care that the line input
is muted in the playback stage of course (to avoid feedback loops).  Either
way, the card would play the audio, then record it again, and you could get
it sent to you however you wanted.

Geoff.


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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Chris Nestrud]

As I mentioned, the bitrate on the ESD server and the play program would
have to match, so it wouldn't convert automatically to a lower bandwith. I
thought you were experiencing packet loss between you and the site, but
perhaps not between other_host and the site, and not between you and
other_host.

Chris


On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Brent Harding wrote:

> What, would the server run on the remote machine? Would it convert the
> bitrate to something my modem can handle?
> At 04:59 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >You might able to use the enlightenment sound daemon (ESD). Have the
> >remote computer run its stream through an ESD server, then use esdplay or
> >something on your local box to connect to the remote esd server and play
> >its audio. Bitrate and such will probably have to match. And this is just
> >an idea.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
> >
> >> It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you telnet you
> >> are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands are
> >> carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
> >> prohibited or some such thing).
> >> 
> >> What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the streaming
> >> data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
> >> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Kirk Wood
> >> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> >> ------------------
> >> 
> >> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

It's not that, my isp has good connectivity, but my 28.8 modem just won't
pull in much other than low bitrate shoutcast, and speakfreely.
At 07:13 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I fail to understand how this scheme could possibly help real time. Unless
>that is, you are stuck with an ISP with limited connectivity and happen to
>have a fast connection to some server which has a better ISP.
>
>The other posibility is if you could get permision to setup a damaen
>capable of translating a stream into a lower bandwidth stream to which you
>then connect via the new streams software.
>
>But either of these are really a large task to be undertaken and not
>likely to happen unless you happen to run your own co-located server, or
>have a friend who runs one. I just can't imagine an administrator
>leisurely handing out such permsions. And if you are at the point of
>asking if this can be done via telnet, I doubt you are proficient enough
>to be ready for the task.
>
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

No, it only allows playback of multiple sources. The instant I start up
another recording when one's in progress it tells me the card is in use
already. 
It'll let me play two wave files, at a time, but mp3's it will only play
one, the second one cuts the first off, and switches to the second.
At 09:15 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Why not? SB Live allows to record from multiple sources and into multiple
>sources!
>Vic
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@ufw2.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 5:59 PM
>Subject: Re: hearing the audio from a remote system
>
>
>> Wow, could recording be done this way too, so I can record stuff that
>takes
>> up the recording process to send over the net. What comes to mind is stuff
>> like dialpad with evoice, if I get a really funny message, I'd want to
>> record it, but I can't because dialpad reserves the recording for sending
>> to the other party. In the case of evoice, there is nobody to talk to to
>> record that way. If I, again, telnet to this remote system, use alsarecord
>> could I get what's coming out of my sound card recorded in to a file, even
>> when it's own recording channel is in use? My sblive seems to not allow
>> more than one recording on at a time.
>>
>> At 04:45 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >You could find you have more problems (not less) if you tried the route
>> >you are thinking of. After all, now you have two connections to go sour
>> >instead of one.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Kirk Wood
>> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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>> >It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>> >
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

On my machine, my sblive's output is the speaker jack, but I need this for
the speakers. How does the speakfreely mechanism work? Would I use amixer
to set my recording to PCM on the remote machine, have it connect to sfr
and I connect to sfr to listen to it?
I know people have played music over that before, but now getting standard
out from trplayer to encode to a bitrate I can use to stream it. Especially
stuff like nettalk, which is broadcast over a real server.
At 11:39 PM 10/9/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Brent:
>
>OK, there are 2 ways I know of doing this, and both amount to the same
>thing.  If your card allows you to record the output, then you could use a
>streaming technology that accepts source material from your soundcard to
>relay this on.  As an example, both icecast with liveice (if you get it
>working), or speak freely's sfvod server would do this.  Gene uses svod for
>this sometimes.  If your soundcard does NOT allow you to record the output
>in its driver, you could accomplish this anyway by running a cable from the
>line-out to the line-in of the same card, taking care that the line input
>is muted in the playback stage of course (to avoid feedback loops).  Either
>way, the card would play the audio, then record it again, and you could get
>it sent to you however you wanted.
>
>Geoff.
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Re: hearing the audio from a remote system

[Brent Harding]

It's actually a not enough bandwidth at my end issue. Converting bitrates
would allow me to listen to stuff I never could before, but now the problem
is with msmedia streams entering the picture more than real audio. My isp
has plenty of bandwidth, but I don't.
At 11:51 AM 10/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>As I mentioned, the bitrate on the ESD server and the play program would
>have to match, so it wouldn't convert automatically to a lower bandwith. I
>thought you were experiencing packet loss between you and the site, but
>perhaps not between other_host and the site, and not between you and
>other_host.
>
>Chris
>
>
>On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>> What, would the server run on the remote machine? Would it convert the
>> bitrate to something my modem can handle?
>> At 04:59 PM 10/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >You might able to use the enlightenment sound daemon (ESD). Have the
>> >remote computer run its stream through an ESD server, then use esdplay or
>> >something on your local box to connect to the remote esd server and play
>> >its audio. Bitrate and such will probably have to match. And this is just
>> >an idea.
>> >
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
>> >
>> >> It is quite simple. What you want to do can't be done. When you
telnet you
>> >> are working on the remote machine. Fully and completely. All commands
are
>> >> carried out the same as if you were on that machine's console (unless
>> >> prohibited or some such thing).
>> >> 
>> >> What you really want is some sort of proxy program to accept the
streaming
>> >> data and then forward it to you. As far as changing the bit rate it is
>> >> most likely a forget it situation. Not on current computers. 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Kirk Wood
>> >> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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>> >> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
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