* Default debian .profile. @ Tommy Moore ` Geoff Shang 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi guys, I replaced /root/.profile with a file off of another system and I forgot to backup the original one. Can anyone send me the one that comes with debian because dselect isn't working like it should. Heh. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Default debian .profile. Default debian .profile Tommy Moore @ ` Geoff Shang ` Tommy Moore 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Geoff Shang @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi: Tommy, do you mean .bash_profile, or are you running ksh or something? I did not get a .profile installed, but I do have a .bash_jprofile. Geoff. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: Default debian .profile. ` Geoff Shang @ ` Tommy Moore ` More Debian fun Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Um, I'm using bash I think. Should of been /root/.profile in there. Thanks. Maybe Kirk or Gene might have one they can send me or something. Thanks anyways. Tommy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* More Debian fun ` Tommy Moore @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Kirk Reiser ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup <Heh> OK, so I'm trying to install Debian on my computer, and well, I think I'd finish the install eventually (I've done manual workarounds for things that don't quite go by themselves), except for a small problem. ... I keep getting these errors and the computer completely locks. At least one time I heard a "could not handle kernel paging request" error. ... And I'm not really sure why. I thought I might have power management turned on, but I don't. Only thing that I can think is wrong is a flaky system. I know, for instance, the video card's a POS video card, and I'm going to replace that straight away and try again. Also the network card could stand replacement, but sometimes I get these errors before any of the network stuff gets loaded. Any other ideas what might be causing this problem? Particulars: K6-2-300 system with 32MB RAM and a 2GB hard drive and Trident 4DWave sound card; POS AGP video card, and POS NE2000 ISA ethernet card (on IRQ11 at 0x300). BTW, there's no particular time that these errors happen, just kinda whenever. ... Once I get that tackled, I'll try to get lilo to boot successfully off the hard drive. ... -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros@ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` More Debian fun Buddy Brannan @ ` Kirk Reiser ` cpt.kirk ` Gene Collins ` Kerry Hoath 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Buddy: Hang on just a bit if you can. Gene is trying a new set of disks I cooked yesterday. Hopefully, they may take care of some of your problems. Changing hardware is a bit drastic in the name of getting a distro to work. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Kirk Reiser @ ` cpt.kirk ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: cpt.kirk @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Kirk, Buddy would be changing hardware in name of getting an OS to work. He had problems with Winblows on that machine too. Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net ------------------ Why can't you be a non-conformist, like everybody else? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` cpt.kirk @ ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup *Heh* That's true. The Windoz drivers for that card were completely flaky. So I'm fairly well convinced that even in standard VGA mode, the video card is at least somewhat responsible for any system stability problems. (It's a SIS chip set, didn't cost me much. So no real problem to change it. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros@ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` More Debian fun Buddy Brannan ` Kirk Reiser @ ` Gene Collins ` Buddy Brannan ` Kerry Hoath 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Buddy, what kind of cdrom do you have in the machine? Do you have anything connected to the parallel port? I was getting similar kinds of problems on my laptop, and discovered that I had a parallel cable that was only partially connected. If you can give me more specifics on the kind of disk controller you have, maybe there is some other driver I need to include in the kernel. Gene ><Heh> > >OK, so I'm trying to install Debian on my computer, and well, I think I'd >finish the install eventually (I've done manual workarounds for things that >don't quite go by themselves), except for a small problem. ... I keep >getting these errors and the computer completely locks. At least one time I >heard a "could not handle kernel paging request" error. ... And I'm not >really sure why. I thought I might have power management turned on, but I >don't. Only thing that I can think is wrong is a flaky system. I know, for >instance, the video card's a POS video card, and I'm going to replace that >straight away and try again. Also the network card could stand replacement, >but sometimes I get these errors before any of the network stuff gets >loaded. Any other ideas what might be causing this problem? > >Particulars: > >K6-2-300 system with 32MB RAM and a 2GB hard drive and Trident 4DWave sound >card; POS AGP video card, and POS NE2000 ISA ethernet card (on IRQ11 at >0x300). > >BTW, there's no particular time that these errors happen, just kinda >whenever. ... > >Once I get that tackled, I'll try to get lilo to boot successfully off the >hard drive. ... > >-- >Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV >Email: davros@ycardz.com >Voice mail: 877-791-5298 >All opinions are all mine! > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Gene Collins @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Gene Collins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup No, nothing connected to the parallel port. Actually, the only thing connected at all is the Accent. Not sure what chip set I have...and I'm not sure what the easiest way to find out would be. I actually tried to make a kernel, copied it onto the rescue floppy, rdev'ed it to /dev/fd0 rdev linux /dev/fd0 -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros@ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Gene Collins ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup That's interesting. Are you getting more or fewer errors with the custom kernel? Or have you noticed any difference at all? Probably the easiest way to find out which hard disk you have is to boot a dos disk with msd.exe on it. On the other hand, when you look at the output from dmesg, you can tell what kind of hard disk you have. As a matter of fact, why don't you save the dmesg output in a file and send it to me. Maybe I can tell by looking at it if there's something I've left out of the kernel. Gene >No, nothing connected to the parallel port. Actually, the only thing >connected at all is the Accent. Not sure what chip set I have...and I'm not >sure what the easiest way to find out would be. I actually tried to make a >kernel, copied it onto the rescue floppy, rdev'ed it to /dev/fd0 > >rdev linux /dev/fd0 > > > >-- >Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV >Email: davros@ycardz.com >Voice mail: 877-791-5298 >All opinions are all mine! > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Gene Collins @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Jim Wantz ` Gene Collins 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup What...I'm still learning--what, is dmesg a command to run that I redirect to a text file? Actually, I think I must've been doing something else when I told you I tried a custom kernel with nearly all the IDE controllers in it. I did make config make bzImage and then cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed/bvmlinux /floppy/linux Then cd /floppy rdev linux /dev/fd0 It didn't boot at all, so I re-made the root disk from the disk I got from you. So I don't know if there were more or fewer. (BTW, I did the kernel compile on the machine that works.) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros@ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Jim Wantz ` Gene Collins 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jim Wantz @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi Buddy, I am still a newcomer myself--but I can handle dmesg, I ran across it in the Ethernet.HOWTO. What dmesg is, is all of that stuff jabbers when we bring up linux, the stuff we normally insert/enter (grin). Jim Wantz WB0TFK > What...I'm still learning--what, is dmesg a command to run that I redirect > to a text file? > > Actually, I think I must've been doing something else when I told you I > tried a custom kernel with nearly all the IDE controllers in it. I did > make config > make bzImage > and then cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed/bvmlinux /floppy/linux > Then > cd /floppy > rdev linux /dev/fd0 > > It didn't boot at all, so I re-made the root disk from the disk I got from > you. So I don't know if there were more or fewer. (BTW, I did the kernel > compile on the machine that works.) > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV > Email: davros@ycardz.com > Voice mail: 877-791-5298 > All opinions are all mine! > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Buddy Brannan ` Jim Wantz @ ` Gene Collins ` Buddy Brannan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Buddy. dmesg is the command you use to repeat your boot up messages. You can redirect the output to a file with the > symbol. You can also pipe it through more as in demsg | more. The file you wanted after the make bzImage command is /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage. Just copy the file to the linux file name on your rescue floppy. Then cd to the floppy directory and rdev linux /dev/fd0. Try customizing the kernel again, and see if you don't have better luck. Gene >What...I'm still learning--what, is dmesg a command to run that I redirect >to a text file? > >Actually, I think I must've been doing something else when I told you I >tried a custom kernel with nearly all the IDE controllers in it. I did >make config >make bzImage >and then cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed/bvmlinux /floppy/linux >Then >cd /floppy >rdev linux /dev/fd0 > >It didn't boot at all, so I re-made the root disk from the disk I got from >you. So I don't know if there were more or fewer. (BTW, I did the kernel >compile on the machine that works.) > >-- >Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV >Email: davros@ycardz.com >Voice mail: 877-791-5298 >All opinions are all mine! > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Gene Collins @ ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Oh. D'oh! Well no wonder it didn't work. OK, I'll try that instead. Yeah, knew about redirection and pipes, but didn't know about dmesg...after a year, there's still so much to learn yet. I'll try my custom kernel (which I still have) and see what happens. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Email: davros@ycardz.com Voice mail: 877-791-5298 All opinions are all mine! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` More Debian fun Buddy Brannan ` Kirk Reiser ` Gene Collins @ ` Kerry Hoath ` Buddy Brannan 2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If Debian kernels or kernels are pannicing during the install phase my first bet is bad ram. If the ram is under waranty replace it or if you want to be sure then ram test the box with memtest86 2.x and have something on com1 so you can control the memtest and read the screen. memtest86 the newer versions (see freshmeat binaries writable to disk are available) dumps to the serial port at 9600,n,8,1 (cool eh?) If that isn't the case, it might be a bad board I've seen that too. 99.999% of the time it isn't linux's fault that hardware falls over Linux does drive things to their maximum capacity. If you drive a bomb arround the grand prix track the tires might fall off. I'm not saying your computer is a bomb; it might be that one part is letting the system down. Perhapse Windows blue screened on the box every now and again but how often do we hit enter ignore the blue screen and continue on? When Linux panicks it may be a random thing but should not be ignored but investigated. Time and time again panicking kernels have shown me marginal hardware. Thanks Linux <grin> Regards, Kerry. On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 09:30:05AM -0500, Buddy Brannan wrote: > <Heh> > > OK, so I'm trying to install Debian on my computer, and well, I think I'd > finish the install eventually (I've done manual workarounds for things that > don't quite go by themselves), except for a small problem. ... I keep > getting these errors and the computer completely locks. At least one time I > heard a "could not handle kernel paging request" error. ... And I'm not > really sure why. I thought I might have power management turned on, but I > don't. Only thing that I can think is wrong is a flaky system. I know, for > instance, the video card's a POS video card, and I'm going to replace that > straight away and try again. Also the network card could stand replacement, > but sometimes I get these errors before any of the network stuff gets > loaded. Any other ideas what might be causing this problem? > > Particulars: > > K6-2-300 system with 32MB RAM and a 2GB hard drive and Trident 4DWave sound > card; POS AGP video card, and POS NE2000 ISA ethernet card (on IRQ11 at > 0x300). > > BTW, there's no particular time that these errors happen, just kinda > whenever. ... > > Once I get that tackled, I'll try to get lilo to boot successfully off the > hard drive. ... > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV > Email: davros@ycardz.com > Voice mail: 877-791-5298 > All opinions are all mine! > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- -- Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.eu.org Alternates: kerry@emusys.com.au kerry@gotss.spice.net.au or khoath@lis.net.au ICQ UIN: 8226547 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: More Debian fun ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Buddy Brannan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Kerry, Well, I pulled the known crappified video card out and put in a different one (see the follow-up). So far it appears to run OK. ... Except lilo, which I'm gonna play with now. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | And if the ground yawned, Email: davros@ycardz.com | I'd step to the side and say, Phone: (972) 889-8147 | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" Voice mail: (877) 791-5298 | --Eddie From Ohio ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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