My apology

My apology

[kevin]

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I would like to apologize for my past actions.  I have attached documentation for the alsa tools release
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Shaun Oliver]

I've read bullshit in my time but this takes the bloody cake.

kevin not only once again have you insulted our inteligence, you've
proven yet again you're a total and utter moron.
alsa is nothing more than modules and utilities for sound cards. or in
your pathetic little ms windows world, drivers. understand brainiac?
it doesn't take rocket science to realize once again you're talking out
your arse.
do us a favour and give your other end a go.
you've got alot to learn about linux.
and lesson 1 is.
never, ever, compair windows to linux. you'll die in the attempt.
and kevin you're dead. you're starting to stink man.
enough with the claptrap already.
make stuff up by all means but go write a book or something.. don't come
here pretending to have coded a useful utility when in actual fact
you've pulled a fast one on us.
once again. go away.

at the risk
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> I would like to apologize for my past actions.  I have attached =
> documentation for the alsa tools release
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com


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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

<smiling>  My objection to this particular missive of Kevin's is not
the content but the method used.  Shaun has delivered a rousing
rendition of what the content of this post "apology" deserves.  I
shall not try to take away his thunder.  How could I?  That fresh,
earthy, Australian tang is just what this documentation needs.  

No, my objection is to *anyone* who wanted his documentation taken
seriously, daring to place *any* written material on-line or off
without running a SPELL CHECKER!!!  I mean "sinse"  "specificly"
"lisence"????  C'mon folks.  If you're going to place yourself in line
for firing from the Australian Militia, you sure as Hell don't need to
ask for drubbing from The Rochester Grammarians Association.  Now, I
mean really, bad tactics, bad tactics.  In short, this spam is utter
and complete rot, deserving any and all criticism it gets! 

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Ahahaha what whit indeed!  I love it!!!  Realy though folks I don't see the
reason for this flaying.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi all,
>
> <smiling>  My objection to this particular missive of Kevin's is not
> the content but the method used.  Shaun has delivered a rousing
> rendition of what the content of this post "apology" deserves.  I
> shall not try to take away his thunder.  How could I?  That fresh,
> earthy, Australian tang is just what this documentation needs.
>
> No, my objection is to *anyone* who wanted his documentation taken
> seriously, daring to place *any* written material on-line or off
> without running a SPELL CHECKER!!!  I mean "sinse"  "specificly"
> "lisence"????  C'mon folks.  If you're going to place yourself in line
> for firing from the Australian Militia, you sure as Hell don't need to
> ask for drubbing from The Rochester Grammarians Association.  Now, I
> mean really, bad tactics, bad tactics.  In short, this spam is utter
> and complete rot, deserving any and all criticism it gets!
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
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JRRT
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Scott Howell]

Kevin,

I read the documentation you sent to the list. First I'm incredibly 
confused by what you wrote. Why are you even attempting to marrie 
windows and alsa. I assume you are attempting to draw some parallel, but 
I miss the entire point. Alsa has nothing and I mean nothing to do with 
speech in any form you could possibly dream up. Alsa is modules to make 
sound from sound cards and that's the simplest thing I can think to say 
on that note.
You further more write and I quote from the documentation:
"I would first like to make one thing clear: alsa has nothing to do
   with Jaws for Windows!"

Yes yes you got that right on the money!
" However, be that as it may, the 
kernal allows
   for such alterations because it was designed to be networked to a
   Windows machine."

Ok what the hell do you meanthat ALsa was ment to be networked to a 
windows machine or the Linux kernel. SUrely you don't mean the Linux 
kernel as how is a kernel going to be networked to a windows machine and 
what fruitloop would even do such a rediculous thing. Not to mention 
that if you ment Linux is to be networked to windows, its the other way 
around. Windows is barely networkible to itself let along anything else.
 
The point is Kevin that you haven't answered the qestuions we asked, 
you've not proven anything, you must be mad, and surely you can't expect 
anyone to take this load of shit seriously. I mean I'm trying like hell 
to be reasonable, but I can't help post this message because your 
attempt at documenting this tool just doesn't make sense. I'm not the  
sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see this stuff you wrote is just 
rediculous. Look the fact of the matter is you are making a fool of 
yourself and surely that's not your intention.
Whatelse is there to say? I've tried racking my brain to come up with 
something that might make some sense, but I just can't think of it. If 
this was some module or something in the kernel that was tied to the 
video, maybe I could find something, but it just doesn't fly in any form 
you've presented it.

Scott

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling data
packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to send
and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office for
instance) if need be.
I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may be
hard to grasp.  However, I say
that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I don't
mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

 a Linux box was mean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Kevin,
>
> I read the documentation you sent to the list. First I'm incredibly
> confused by what you wrote. Why are you even attempting to marrie
> windows and alsa. I assume you are attempting to draw some parallel, but
> I miss the entire point. Alsa has nothing and I mean nothing to do with
> speech in any form you could possibly dream up. Alsa is modules to make
> sound from sound cards and that's the simplest thing I can think to say
> on that note.
> You further more write and I quote from the documentation:
> "I would first like to make one thing clear: alsa has nothing to do
>    with Jaws for Windows!"
>
> Yes yes you got that right on the money!
> " However, be that as it may, the
> kernal allows
>    for such alterations because it was designed to be networked to a
>    Windows machine."
>
> Ok what the hell do you meanthat ALsa was ment to be networked to a
> windows machine or the Linux kernel. SUrely you don't mean the Linux
> kernel as how is a kernel going to be networked to a windows machine and
> what fruitloop would even do such a rediculous thing. Not to mention
> that if you ment Linux is to be networked to windows, its the other way
> around. Windows is barely networkible to itself let along anything else.
>
> The point is Kevin that you haven't answered the qestuions we asked,
> you've not proven anything, you must be mad, and surely you can't expect
> anyone to take this load of shit seriously. I mean I'm trying like hell
> to be reasonable, but I can't help post this message because your
> attempt at documenting this tool just doesn't make sense. I'm not the
> sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see this stuff you wrote is just
> rediculous. Look the fact of the matter is you are making a fool of
> yourself and surely that's not your intention.
> Whatelse is there to say? I've tried racking my brain to come up with
> something that might make some sense, but I just can't think of it. If
> this was some module or something in the kernel that was tied to the
> video, maybe I could find something, but it just doesn't fly in any form
> you've presented it.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Gregory Nowak]

Prey explain what being able to transfer windows files over a network has to do with
alsa?

Greg


On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:09:36PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling data
> packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to send
> and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office for
> instance) if need be.
> I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may be
> hard to grasp.  However, I say
> that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I don't
> mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
> After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
> 
>  a Linux box was mean

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9 in
some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed jaws!
I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with them.
Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Prey explain what being able to transfer windows files over a network has
to do with
> alsa?
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:09:36PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> > All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling
data
> > packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to
send
> > and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office
for
> > instance) if need be.
> > I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may
be
> > hard to grasp.  However, I say
> > that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I
don't
> > mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
> > After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> >  a Linux box was mean
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Kevin:

I think you are confusing ALSA with Speakup or some other screen reader.
ALSA, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (http://www.alsa-project.org) is a
set of soundcard drivers, an interface library to those drivers, and a set
of utilities to manipulate those drivers and provide other related
functionality.

As for what Speakup or any other screen reader for Linux will allow you to
do, I dare say you're preeching to the converted.

Geoff.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Buddy Brannan]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:33:32PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9 in
> some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
> your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed jaws!
> I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with them.
> Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.

Well, no, actually, I don't. JAWS doesn't speak. It interfaces with
(usually) Eloquence, which is a software-based speech
synthesizer. ALSA has no such synthesizer. ALSA just allows one to use
a soundcard. So are you saying you have a text-to-speech software of
some sort? No, I think you've confused the issue even further. 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Luke Davis]

Wait a minute.

You're using a Windows machine, talking with JFW.

You want to send some kind of message to ("communicate with") my Linux
machine, on the same network.

That message will be received and processed, by what ever speech software
I am using on that Linux box.
How could your decision about anything, have any relationship what ever,
to how my Linux system, spoke that information?

Luke


On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9 in
> some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
> your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed jaws!
> I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with them.
> Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Prey explain what being able to transfer windows files over a network has
> to do with
> > alsa?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:09:36PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> > > All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling
> data
> > > packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to
> send
> > > and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office
> for
> > > instance) if need be.
> > > I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may
> be
> > > hard to grasp.  However, I say
> > > that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I
> don't
> > > mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
> > > After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> > > Kevin
> > > email:
> > > kjsisco@rcn.com
> > >
> > >  a Linux box was mean
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Luke, the whole point is that he isn't making any sense at all.  I
think he wants to, but can't. 

<sigh>  It might be worth it to write him privately and see if I can
sort out this tangle.  At the moment, I think all that can be done
with this thread is to play cat's cradle.  

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I am talking about running a process on your machine from mine.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Wait a minute.
>
> You're using a Windows machine, talking with JFW.
>
> You want to send some kind of message to ("communicate with") my Linux
> machine, on the same network.
>
> That message will be received and processed, by what ever speech software
> I am using on that Linux box.
> How could your decision about anything, have any relationship what ever,
> to how my Linux system, spoke that information?
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9
in
> > some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
> > your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed
jaws!
> > I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with
them.
> > Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Prey explain what being able to transfer windows files over a network
has
> > to do with
> > > alsa?
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:09:36PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> > > > All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with
handling
> > data
> > > > packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to
> > send
> > > > and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to
office
> > for
> > > > instance) if need be.
> > > > I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words
may
> > be
> > > > hard to grasp.  However, I say
> > > > that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.
I
> > don't
> > > > mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an
opend-mind.
> > > > After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> > > > Kevin
> > > > email:
> > > > kjsisco@rcn.com
> > > >
> > > >  a Linux box was mean
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

>>>>> "kevin" == kevin  <kjsisco@rcn.com> writes:

    kevin> I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work
    kevin> on redhat 9 in some office, and I work on a windows
    kevin> machine.  I want to comunicate with your machine, but I
    kevin> want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed jaws!  I
    kevin> would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and
    kevin> work with them.  Now, I could telnet, but I think you see
    kevin> the difference.  Kevin email: kjsisco@rcn.com

Sorry, but the trains don't run that way.  You can't get there from
here.  You need to transfer and I'm not at all sure that local line is
operating.

RUN YOUR SPELL CHECKER!!!!!!! 

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Scott Howell]

Ok this is rediculous Kevin for the simple reason that if any of this 
were possible and I"m still not there yet; there's nothing to be gain.  
I mean that in the sense that the overhead for such transactions over a 
netowrk would be prety large in my mind and I'm not a networking expert. 
If I understand your saying you could use a Linux box running SPeakup 
while sitting at a windows box and this alsa tool would allow you to use 
SPeakup on the windows box instead of a windows-based screen reader.
If this understanding is correct, I submit to you this is useless. Why? 
Well its simple. If folks need a gui they could always use Gnome and 
Gnopernicus. If I correct in my understanding and folks still wanted to 
use SPeakup in such a fashion over a network, I still believe the 
overhead would be unreasonable. Besides all that, I think most folk 
would rather use a Linux box instead of a windows box. THere's nothing 
that can't be done on a Linux box that can be done on a windows box as 
far as I can tell. Your efforts would be better spent elsewhere. I still 
don't see this any of this being ore than a crock, but you sure made a 
lot of folk mighty upset because you didn't give us the information 
requested in the beginning. 
Oh and by the way, you can access files from a Linux box with windows by 
using Samba so your statements are just not making sense. I made up the 
bit above based on some incredible assumptions. Thanks I made these 
observations before my first cup of coffee, now I've taxed my few brain 
cells and most go load them up with coffee. I must not be awake yet.


On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:33:32PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9 in
> some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
> your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed jaws!
> I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with them.
> Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Well I must ask you to grab some coffee and think this over.  You may also
*gulp* want to try it out?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Ok this is rediculous Kevin for the simple reason that if any of this
> were possible and I"m still not there yet; there's nothing to be gain.
> I mean that in the sense that the overhead for such transactions over a
> netowrk would be prety large in my mind and I'm not a networking expert.
> If I understand your saying you could use a Linux box running SPeakup
> while sitting at a windows box and this alsa tool would allow you to use
> SPeakup on the windows box instead of a windows-based screen reader.
> If this understanding is correct, I submit to you this is useless. Why?
> Well its simple. If folks need a gui they could always use Gnome and
> Gnopernicus. If I correct in my understanding and folks still wanted to
> use SPeakup in such a fashion over a network, I still believe the
> overhead would be unreasonable. Besides all that, I think most folk
> would rather use a Linux box instead of a windows box. THere's nothing
> that can't be done on a Linux box that can be done on a windows box as
> far as I can tell. Your efforts would be better spent elsewhere. I still
> don't see this any of this being ore than a crock, but you sure made a
> lot of folk mighty upset because you didn't give us the information
> requested in the beginning.
> Oh and by the way, you can access files from a Linux box with windows by
> using Samba so your statements are just not making sense. I made up the
> bit above based on some incredible assumptions. Thanks I made these
> observations before my first cup of coffee, now I've taxed my few brain
> cells and most go load them up with coffee. I must not be awake yet.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:33:32PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> > I used that as an ixample.  Look at it this way.  You work on redhat 9
in
> > some office, and I work on a windows machine.  I want to comunicate with
> > your machine, but I want to use alsa to speek rather than that cursed
jaws!
> > I would utelize parts of your system, access linux files and work with
them.
> > Now, I could telnet, but I think you see the difference.
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Kevin, you're full of it! You don't know a thing about Alsa, that's sure! And if you meant to say this crap about packets sent
over networks then why didn't you just come out and say it dude? Heck, I haven't even used Linux for a day, haven't even gotten
used to the operating system buddy, and I can tell you that what you're saying is pure nonsense! Quit wasting our time! I would
love to see you write documentation on how to repartition a hard disk, or format a hard drive, or even, just write a document
about how to set up a network in windows, and prove yourself to be a flat out newbie at computers in general! Ahahahahaha!
Jes
Email: jesman598@triad.rr.com
Msn instant messenger: subman70@hotmail.com
----- Original Message -----
From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling data
packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to send
and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office for
instance) if need be.
I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may be
hard to grasp.  However, I say
that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I don't
mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

 a Linux box was mean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Kevin,
>
> I read the documentation you sent to the list. First I'm incredibly
> confused by what you wrote. Why are you even attempting to marrie
> windows and alsa. I assume you are attempting to draw some parallel, but
> I miss the entire point. Alsa has nothing and I mean nothing to do with
> speech in any form you could possibly dream up. Alsa is modules to make
> sound from sound cards and that's the simplest thing I can think to say
> on that note.
> You further more write and I quote from the documentation:
> "I would first like to make one thing clear: alsa has nothing to do
>    with Jaws for Windows!"
>
> Yes yes you got that right on the money!
> " However, be that as it may, the
> kernal allows
>    for such alterations because it was designed to be networked to a
>    Windows machine."
>
> Ok what the hell do you meanthat ALsa was ment to be networked to a
> windows machine or the Linux kernel. SUrely you don't mean the Linux
> kernel as how is a kernel going to be networked to a windows machine and
> what fruitloop would even do such a rediculous thing. Not to mention
> that if you ment Linux is to be networked to windows, its the other way
> around. Windows is barely networkible to itself let along anything else.
>
> The point is Kevin that you haven't answered the qestuions we asked,
> you've not proven anything, you must be mad, and surely you can't expect
> anyone to take this load of shit seriously. I mean I'm trying like hell
> to be reasonable, but I can't help post this message because your
> attempt at documenting this tool just doesn't make sense. I'm not the
> sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see this stuff you wrote is just
> rediculous. Look the fact of the matter is you are making a fool of
> yourself and surely that's not your intention.
> Whatelse is there to say? I've tried racking my brain to come up with
> something that might make some sense, but I just can't think of it. If
> this was some module or something in the kernel that was tied to the
> video, maybe I could find something, but it just doesn't fly in any form
> you've presented it.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes, I'd love to see that too, it would be a good laugh. However, my
prayers would go with anyone who attempted to follow any advice in it
(grin).

Greg


On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:55:42PM -0400, Jes and guide dog Harley wrote:
> Kevin, you're full of it! You don't know a thing about Alsa, that's sure! And if you meant to say this crap about packets sent
> over networks then why didn't you just come out and say it dude? Heck, I haven't even used Linux for a day, haven't even gotten
> used to the operating system buddy, and I can tell you that what you're saying is pure nonsense! Quit wasting our time! I would
> love to see you write documentation on how to repartition a hard disk, or format a hard drive, or even, just write a document
> about how to set up a network in windows, and prove yourself to be a flat out newbie at computers in general! Ahahahahaha!
> Jes
> Email: jesman598@triad.rr.com
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Shaun Oliver]

at the risk of being helpful, Jes and guide dog Harley delivered up the following on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:55:42PM -0400, 
> Kevin, you're full of it! You don't know a thing about Alsa, that's sure! And if you meant to say this crap about packets sent
> over networks then why didn't you just come out and say it dude? Heck, I haven't even used Linux for a day, haven't even gotten
> used to the operating system buddy, and I can tell you that what you're saying is pure nonsense! Quit wasting our time! I would
> love to see you write documentation on how to repartition a hard disk, or format a hard drive, or even, just write a document
> about how to set up a network in windows, and prove yourself to be a flat out newbie at computers in general! Ahahahahaha!
*SNIP*
first of all, could we try to trim the size of the postings please?
some of us pay for the data we transfer every time we're on line.
secondly, kevin you should just get nicked and get off.
the top post is from a newbie that knows jack about linux as yet but
knows full well you're wrong and annoying.
kevin I'll say this once so read carefully.

 PISS OFF!



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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Buddy Brannan]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 09:09:36PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling data
> packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to send
> and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office for
> instance) if need be.

Oh, you mean like what you'd do with samba, for instance? 

> I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may be
> hard to grasp.  However, I say
> that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I don't
> mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.

Umm, I still (like everyone else) don't know how this has anything to do with ALSA?

> After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?

Umm. Well actually, free software's about freedom, actually. 

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Luke Davis]

Can not blind users send and receive windows files over a network now?

There is Samba, NFS, FTP, and many other methods, all of thiwh are highly
standard, and infinitely blind accessible.

How does your software assist in this?  Assume I know nothing at all about
your software, and did not read any of the previous threads on this, which
is at least half true.

Luke


On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling data
> packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to send
> and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office for
> instance) if need be.
> I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may be
> hard to grasp.  However, I say
> that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I don't
> mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
> After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
>  a Linux box was mean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > I read the documentation you sent to the list. First I'm incredibly
> > confused by what you wrote. Why are you even attempting to marrie
> > windows and alsa. I assume you are attempting to draw some parallel, but
> > I miss the entire point. Alsa has nothing and I mean nothing to do with
> > speech in any form you could possibly dream up. Alsa is modules to make
> > sound from sound cards and that's the simplest thing I can think to say
> > on that note.
> > You further more write and I quote from the documentation:
> > "I would first like to make one thing clear: alsa has nothing to do
> >    with Jaws for Windows!"
> >
> > Yes yes you got that right on the money!
> > " However, be that as it may, the
> > kernal allows
> >    for such alterations because it was designed to be networked to a
> >    Windows machine."
> >
> > Ok what the hell do you meanthat ALsa was ment to be networked to a
> > windows machine or the Linux kernel. SUrely you don't mean the Linux
> > kernel as how is a kernel going to be networked to a windows machine and
> > what fruitloop would even do such a rediculous thing. Not to mention
> > that if you ment Linux is to be networked to windows, its the other way
> > around. Windows is barely networkible to itself let along anything else.
> >
> > The point is Kevin that you haven't answered the qestuions we asked,
> > you've not proven anything, you must be mad, and surely you can't expect
> > anyone to take this load of shit seriously. I mean I'm trying like hell
> > to be reasonable, but I can't help post this message because your
> > attempt at documenting this tool just doesn't make sense. I'm not the
> > sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see this stuff you wrote is just
> > rediculous. Look the fact of the matter is you are making a fool of
> > yourself and surely that's not your intention.
> > Whatelse is there to say? I've tried racking my brain to come up with
> > something that might make some sense, but I just can't think of it. If
> > this was some module or something in the kernel that was tied to the
> > video, maybe I could find something, but it just doesn't fly in any form
> > you've presented it.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

The ftp protocol is still used.  It is like asking why is there more than
one ftp client.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Can not blind users send and receive windows files over a network now?
>
> There is Samba, NFS, FTP, and many other methods, all of thiwh are highly
> standard, and infinitely blind accessible.
>
> How does your software assist in this?  Assume I know nothing at all about
> your software, and did not read any of the previous threads on this, which
> is at least half true.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > All I meant was that a Linux box works best when dealing with handling
data
> > packits over a network and this product will allow the blind user to
send
> > and recieve *shutter* windows files across a network (office to office
for
> > instance) if need be.
> > I understand how you my think I am full of it, after all, such words may
be
> > hard to grasp.  However, I say
> > that if you give this release a chance, the concept will catch on.  I
don't
> > mean to waste anyone's time, I simply ask that you keep an opend-mind.
> > After all, isn't this what open-source is all about?
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> >  a Linux box was mean
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > I read the documentation you sent to the list. First I'm incredibly
> > > confused by what you wrote. Why are you even attempting to marrie
> > > windows and alsa. I assume you are attempting to draw some parallel,
but
> > > I miss the entire point. Alsa has nothing and I mean nothing to do
with
> > > speech in any form you could possibly dream up. Alsa is modules to
make
> > > sound from sound cards and that's the simplest thing I can think to
say
> > > on that note.
> > > You further more write and I quote from the documentation:
> > > "I would first like to make one thing clear: alsa has nothing to do
> > >    with Jaws for Windows!"
> > >
> > > Yes yes you got that right on the money!
> > > " However, be that as it may, the
> > > kernal allows
> > >    for such alterations because it was designed to be networked to a
> > >    Windows machine."
> > >
> > > Ok what the hell do you meanthat ALsa was ment to be networked to a
> > > windows machine or the Linux kernel. SUrely you don't mean the Linux
> > > kernel as how is a kernel going to be networked to a windows machine
and
> > > what fruitloop would even do such a rediculous thing. Not to mention
> > > that if you ment Linux is to be networked to windows, its the other
way
> > > around. Windows is barely networkible to itself let along anything
else.
> > >
> > > The point is Kevin that you haven't answered the qestuions we asked,
> > > you've not proven anything, you must be mad, and surely you can't
expect
> > > anyone to take this load of shit seriously. I mean I'm trying like
hell
> > > to be reasonable, but I can't help post this message because your
> > > attempt at documenting this tool just doesn't make sense. I'm not the
> > > sharpest tool in the shed, but I can see this stuff you wrote is just
> > > rediculous. Look the fact of the matter is you are making a fool of
> > > yourself and surely that's not your intention.
> > > Whatelse is there to say? I've tried racking my brain to come up with
> > > something that might make some sense, but I just can't think of it. If
> > > this was some module or something in the kernel that was tied to the
> > > video, maybe I could find something, but it just doesn't fly in any
form
> > > you've presented it.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Why would anyone want such a thing when there is FTP, activesync, scp
and the like?  Why would Windows users want such a thing when there
are any number of clients that will do the job:  wsftp, FTP Voyager,
CuteFTP, and putty to name a few.  

Why would Linux users want such a thing when exchanging files is
already easily done.  You don't explain yourself well at all, Kevin.
Plus, you are *still* writing without using your spell checker.   I'm
sorry, I just don't understand this at all.  It appears from where I'm
sitting, and I'm not even a techie, to be pure bunkum! 

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Kenny Hitt]

Ann,  he probably doesn't have a spell checker.  He is using Outlook
express 6 for his mailer.  Remember, Windows users have to buy thins
like spell checkers.

          Kenny
	  
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 07:11:09AM -0400, Ann Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Why would anyone want such a thing when there is FTP, activesync, scp
> and the like?  Why would Windows users want such a thing when there
> are any number of clients that will do the job:  wsftp, FTP Voyager,
> CuteFTP, and putty to name a few.  
> 
> Why would Linux users want such a thing when exchanging files is
> already easily done.  You don't explain yourself well at all, Kevin.
> Plus, you are *still* writing without using your spell checker.   I'm
> sorry, I just don't understand this at all.  It appears from where I'm
> sitting, and I'm not even a techie, to be pure bunkum! 
> 
> Ann P.
> 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
have a spell checker! 

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Ann, my understanding is that the spell-checking fascilities are in MS
Word (i.e. Office), and if you don't have Office installed then you don't
have the spell checker for Outlook.

Geoff.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Hi all,
If this proves Kevin's nothing more than a mad jack, he doesn't even know what bash means! Some people just don't need to mess
with Linux!
Jes

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
Just remember this:
I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman!
Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi all,
> If this proves Kevin's nothing more than a mad jack, he doesn't even know
what bash means! Some people just don't need to mess
> with Linux!
> Jes
>
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
WEll, I've refrained from responding to this guy's messages... until now.
Kevin, just what the hell do you mean? You sound like some crazed psychopathic supervillain from a bad cartoon contest. You know, the traditional "today 
the city, tomorrow the world" line?
Life as you know it is over? I will not be stopped? Come on, man! this is NOT, repeat NOT, how you get people to take you seriously--not like we were 
before, but now we definitely are not.
You obviously haven't got a clue what you're talking about, and I think we've all heard enough. And if you ever get your modifications into cups or mailman, 
I'm gonna have to question the project maintainers, cause the only way they'd let your mods in is if they were smoking lots of dope. I mean, they'd have to 
be doped up or worse to even consider taking you seriously if the way you've treated us is any indication.
However, I do thank you for giving me a good laugh with this last message. Go write some cheap comics or something and quit pissing around here, ok? 

Later 

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:56:44 -0400, kevin wrote:

>Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
>if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
>Just remember this:
>I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman!
>Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
>Kevin

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Okay, but in all seriousness, I mean no jokes hear.  I fed you all the info
and you have spit in my face.  So, it is you people who have treated me
poorly.  And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
it you will all say, "damn it...you know...this guy realy is on the money!"
No offense, but show me respect.  I do the same for you.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Schmude" <jschmude@adelphia.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi
> WEll, I've refrained from responding to this guy's messages... until now.
> Kevin, just what the hell do you mean? You sound like some crazed
psychopathic supervillain from a bad cartoon contest. You know, the
traditional "today
> the city, tomorrow the world" line?
> Life as you know it is over? I will not be stopped? Come on, man! this is
NOT, repeat NOT, how you get people to take you seriously--not like we were
> before, but now we definitely are not.
> You obviously haven't got a clue what you're talking about, and I think
we've all heard enough. And if you ever get your modifications into cups or
mailman,
> I'm gonna have to question the project maintainers, cause the only way
they'd let your mods in is if they were smoking lots of dope. I mean, they'd
have to
> be doped up or worse to even consider taking you seriously if the way
you've treated us is any indication.
> However, I do thank you for giving me a good laugh with this last message.
Go write some cheap comics or something and quit pissing around here, ok?
>
> Later
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:56:44 -0400, kevin wrote:
>
> >Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say
again,
> >if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
> >Just remember this:
> >I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even
mailman!
> >Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
> >Kevin
>
>
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
Well, good luck in your linux takeovers. I can't wait to see this, you're gonna get a rude awakening, pal. Should be entertaining.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:04:48 -0400, kevin wrote:

>Okay, but in all seriousness, I mean no jokes hear.  I fed you all the info
>and you have spit in my face.  So, it is you people who have treated me
>poorly.  And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
>it you will all say, "damn it...you know...this guy realy is on the money!"

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Rude awakening?  Hmmm...let's see... ah I got it!  You are rude... I am
awake!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Schmude" <jschmude@adelphia.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi
> Well, good luck in your linux takeovers. I can't wait to see this, you're
gonna get a rude awakening, pal. Should be entertaining.
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:04:48 -0400, kevin wrote:
>
> >Okay, but in all seriousness, I mean no jokes hear.  I fed you all the
info
> >and you have spit in my face.  So, it is you people who have treated me
> >poorly.  And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I
view
> >it you will all say, "damn it...you know...this guy realy is on the
money!"
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Kevin, respect is earned.  Respect comes when you have said or done
something well.  Respect comes when you have communicated your ideas
well.  Respect comes when you have enough knowledge to explain what
you mean in clear, concise, understandable ways.  Respect comes when
you are man enough to admit that you have a learning difference, and
asking us politely if we understand what you are trying to say because
you have difficulty comunicating.  Respect comes when you have the
humility to understand that you have trouble writing English so that
you can't tell the difference between "hear" and "here", and you seek
help so that you will be able to write coherent sentences.  

I'm not a techie, I'm just a user.  I was totally confused by your
posts.  I believe that you believe you are communicating your ideas.
I believe that you may be asking about technology that already exists,
but I can't untangle your communication well enough so that I can
figure out what you are talking about.  

Go away, seek help for your writing problem.  Seek more knowledge
about Linux, and when you return, you may be better able to
communicate your ideas.

Ann P.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

When I read your poste I had a nice laugh.  I thank you for that!
A learning difference?  What in God's name  are you implying?
I have a fine understanding of Linux.  If I didn't, I would not even touch
the alsa tools!
Who in there right mind would create a release of a product and then realize
"I have no idea what this is?"  Perhaps you should rethink some things.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi all,
>
> Kevin, respect is earned.  Respect comes when you have said or done
> something well.  Respect comes when you have communicated your ideas
> well.  Respect comes when you have enough knowledge to explain what
> you mean in clear, concise, understandable ways.  Respect comes when
> you are man enough to admit that you have a learning difference, and
> asking us politely if we understand what you are trying to say because
> you have difficulty comunicating.  Respect comes when you have the
> humility to understand that you have trouble writing English so that
> you can't tell the difference between "hear" and "here", and you seek
> help so that you will be able to write coherent sentences.
>
> I'm not a techie, I'm just a user.  I was totally confused by your
> posts.  I believe that you believe you are communicating your ideas.
> I believe that you may be asking about technology that already exists,
> but I can't untangle your communication well enough so that I can
> figure out what you are talking about.
>
> Go away, seek help for your writing problem.  Seek more knowledge
> about Linux, and when you return, you may be better able to
> communicate your ideas.
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
JRRT
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Buddy Brannan]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 05:04:48PM -0400, kevin wrote:
>  And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
> it you will all say, "damn it...you know...this guy realy is on the money!"

Now if you had stopped at "Damn it!", I'd've agreed with you. 

Now refresh my  memory. What was it you were saying open source (free
software really, but who's counting?) is all about? All about your
vision for it? Puh-leez.  
-- 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Not my vission.  It is about change.  There is nothing wrong with change.  I
do a tweek of the alsa tools and people flip out.  This is all about change
for god sake!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

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To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 05:04:48PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> >  And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
> > it you will all say, "damn it...you know...this guy realy is on the
money!"
>
> Now if you had stopped at "Damn it!", I'd've agreed with you.
>
> Now refresh my  memory. What was it you were saying open source (free
> software really, but who's counting?) is all about? All about your
> vision for it? Puh-leez.
> -- 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Buddy Brannan]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:49:31AM -0500, kevin wrote:
> Not my vission.  It is about change.  There is nothing wrong with change.  I
> do a tweek of the alsa tools and people flip out.  This is all about change
> for god sake!

Umm. ... A tweak of the ALSA tools, you say? Sure wish you'd make up
your mind on what it is that you've done. That aside, I think you must
speak a different brand of English (or American, if you like) than the
rest of us. Let's compare: 

> Not my vission.  It is about change. 

And

> And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
> it you will all say, "damn it...

How do you figure that "Linux the way you view it" is not "your
vision" of it? 

Guys, if this is how Kevin speaks English (or American, if you like),
it's no wonder we don't understand WTF he's talking about!

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Well I am American!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <davros@ycardz.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:49:31AM -0500, kevin wrote:
> > Not my vission.  It is about change.  There is nothing wrong with
change.  I
> > do a tweek of the alsa tools and people flip out.  This is all about
change
> > for god sake!
>
> Umm. ... A tweak of the ALSA tools, you say? Sure wish you'd make up
> your mind on what it is that you've done. That aside, I think you must
> speak a different brand of English (or American, if you like) than the
> rest of us. Let's compare:
>
> > Not my vission.  It is about change.
>
> And
>
> > And I would just like to say that when all of linux is like I view
> > it you will all say, "damn it...
>
> How do you figure that "Linux the way you view it" is not "your
> vision" of it?
>
> Guys, if this is how Kevin speaks English (or American, if you like),
> it's no wonder we don't understand WTF he's talking about!
>
> -- 
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> Email: davros@ycardz.com   | in the cradle of your grace,
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Geoff Shang]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> Okay, but in all seriousness, I mean no jokes hear.  I fed you all the info
> and you have spit in my face.

As someone who has come to this thread recently, I went back and read all
your posts.  I downloaded the alsa-tools 0.9.4 release from
ftp.alsa-project.org.  I also grabbed the most recent 0.9.8 release.  Your
name doesn't appear anywhere, either in documentation or source code.
further more, there is no reference to frameviewing or anything like it.
And neither there should be, as alsa-tools are for dealing with sound
cards and not reading the screen.

You get upset that no-one seems to understand your software, but I dare say
that no-one has been able to find it (I certainly haven't and I've read
every message you've posted to this list).  Tell us where it is and we'll
check it out.  Tell us what it is called and how we're meant to use it.
And I'm sure you'll get a fair and honest crytique of it.

Geoff.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Yes...the fact that my name hasn't gotten in there puzzles me... in fact
this is something I will have to email the one in charge of the alsa project
about.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > Okay, but in all seriousness, I mean no jokes hear.  I fed you all the
info
> > and you have spit in my face.
>
> As someone who has come to this thread recently, I went back and read all
> your posts.  I downloaded the alsa-tools 0.9.4 release from
> ftp.alsa-project.org.  I also grabbed the most recent 0.9.8 release.  Your
> name doesn't appear anywhere, either in documentation or source code.
> further more, there is no reference to frameviewing or anything like it.
> And neither there should be, as alsa-tools are for dealing with sound
> cards and not reading the screen.
>
> You get upset that no-one seems to understand your software, but I dare
say
> that no-one has been able to find it (I certainly haven't and I've read
> every message you've posted to this list).  Tell us where it is and we'll
> check it out.  Tell us what it is called and how we're meant to use it.
> And I'm sure you'll get a fair and honest crytique of it.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Kevin:

I noticed that you didn't answer my questions.  So, at the risk of wasting
mine and everybody else's time, I will ask you one last time:

1.  What is your specific piece of software called?

2.  What *exactly* does it do?

3.  Where do I download it from?

I've not found anything remotely like what you've attempted to describe in
your previous posts in the alsa-tools package, either 0.9.4 or the current
0.9.8 release.

This will be my last attempt to understand what you're trying to tell us.

Geoff.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I did not touch 0.9.
What it does is reads the screen rather than reading the sound card as other
versions have done.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi Kevin:
>
> I noticed that you didn't answer my questions.  So, at the risk of wasting
> mine and everybody else's time, I will ask you one last time:
>
> 1.  What is your specific piece of software called?
>
> 2.  What *exactly* does it do?
>
> 3.  Where do I download it from?
>
> I've not found anything remotely like what you've attempted to describe in
> your previous posts in the alsa-tools package, either 0.9.4 or the current
> 0.9.8 release.
>
> This will be my last attempt to understand what you're trying to tell us.
>
> Geoff.
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ameer Armaly]

Personally, I think you're confused a bit:
1. Alsa does not "read" the sound card, but simply provides an interface to
it; if you've provided an interface to the screen, that's already been done
in the C library.
2. What exactly reads the screen if you didn't touch alsa 0.9?
3. Since it reads the screen, what does it do to interpprit what it finds?



Ameer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> I did not touch 0.9.
> What it does is reads the screen rather than reading the sound card as
other
> versions have done.
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Hi Kevin:
> >
> > I noticed that you didn't answer my questions.  So, at the risk of
wasting
> > mine and everybody else's time, I will ask you one last time:
> >
> > 1.  What is your specific piece of software called?
> >
> > 2.  What *exactly* does it do?
> >
> > 3.  Where do I download it from?
> >
> > I've not found anything remotely like what you've attempted to describe
in
> > your previous posts in the alsa-tools package, either 0.9.4 or the
current
> > 0.9.8 release.
> >
> > This will be my last attempt to understand what you're trying to tell
us.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Scott Howell]

Kevein we can't respect you and I know I said I wouldn't say no more on 
this, but you really need help. How do you expect anyone to respect 
someone who shows us no respect. No Kevin you have not shown us any 
respect at all. You make all these wild claims and give us some 
documentation that says absolutely nothing and then you of course insult 
our intelligence.
You want respect son, earn it.

Scott

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I would like to know how I insult your intelligence.  If I have I am truly
sorry.  Heck, for all I know I could be doing it right now.  I do not mean
to insult anyone
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Kevein we can't respect you and I know I said I wouldn't say no more on
> this, but you really need help. How do you expect anyone to respect
> someone who shows us no respect. No Kevin you have not shown us any
> respect at all. You make all these wild claims and give us some
> documentation that says absolutely nothing and then you of course insult
> our intelligence.
> You want respect son, earn it.
>
> Scott
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

At the risk of being harmful, Kevin writes:
Just remember this: I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman! Soon linux will be as I see it!
Life as you know it is over!
Translation: I'm gonna create these worthless projects that have nothing to do with Linux at all and I'll think they're the
greatest so I'll promote them! Kevin, there's more than just your little mind in this linux world, bozo! Got it and oh by the way,
what does bash mean? IF you get this one right I'll give you credit and I'll be left with an open mouth. So I'd love to find out
what your definition of bash is! I'd like all speakup to hear it! Go ahead, say it! What? does bash, b a s h, mean?

Jes

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

First of all, your translation is way off kilter!  I am not only thinking of
myself.
And secondly, bash, as you know, is the shell (command line.)
Now do not complain I insulted your intelligence your magisty!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> At the risk of being harmful, Kevin writes:
> Just remember this: I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and
next maybe even mailman! Soon linux will be as I see it!
> Life as you know it is over!
> Translation: I'm gonna create these worthless projects that have nothing
to do with Linux at all and I'll think they're the
> greatest so I'll promote them! Kevin, there's more than just your little
mind in this linux world, bozo! Got it and oh by the way,
> what does bash mean? IF you get this one right I'll give you credit and
I'll be left with an open mouth. So I'd love to find out
> what your definition of bash is! I'd like all speakup to hear it! Go
ahead, say it! What? does bash, b a s h, mean?
>
> Jes
>
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Toby Fisher]

uOn Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> And secondly, bash, as you know, is the shell (command line.)

See, even that is wrong.
Bash is not *the* shell, it is *a* shell, there are others, ever heard of 
csh or ksh, or even other born shell derivitives like ash?  No?  Didn't 
think so.

Cheers.

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Luke Davis]

Ah, but here he has a point: bash is *the* shell.:)

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Toby Fisher wrote:

> uOn Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > And secondly, bash, as you know, is the shell (command line.)
>
> See, even that is wrong.
> Bash is not *the* shell, it is *a* shell, there are others, ever heard of
> csh or ksh, or even other born shell derivitives like ash?  No?  Didn't
> think so.
>
> Cheers.
>
>

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes, bash is a shell. However, Kevin said that bash is a shell
commandline, he didn't say that bash is a shell.
That's the whole point.

Greg


On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:27:55PM -0500, Luke Davis wrote:
> Ah, but here he has a point: bash is *the* shell.:)
> 

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Ah you are a wiley one.  So, you don't think I know my ass from a hole in
the ground?  Well...what can I say but... the bottum line is you don't like
what I have to say, don't listen!  Other people who trust me as a good
programmer will gladly try out my product!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Yes, bash is a shell. However, Kevin said that bash is a shell
> commandline, he didn't say that bash is a shell.
> That's the whole point.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:27:55PM -0500, Luke Davis wrote:
> > Ah, but here he has a point: bash is *the* shell.:)
> >
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Toby Fisher]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> Ah you are a wiley one.  So, you don't think I know my ass from a hole in
> the ground?  Well...what can I say but... the bottum line is you don't like
> what I have to say, don't listen!  Other people who trust me as a good
> programmer will gladly try out my product!

Your product?...At least before you were only claiming to have made a few 
modifications...But claiming it as your own?...You really are mad!

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

ah now I am mad?  I meant my own release I didn't single-handedly create
alsa.
What is this twisting of words?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby@tjfisher.co.uk>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > Ah you are a wiley one.  So, you don't think I know my ass from a hole
in
> > the ground?  Well...what can I say but... the bottum line is you don't
like
> > what I have to say, don't listen!  Other people who trust me as a good
> > programmer will gladly try out my product!
>
> Your product?...At least before you were only claiming to have made a few
> modifications...But claiming it as your own?...You really are mad!
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Maurice Mines]

could youalltake this of list now btw  I more any one else need hasel read
this so-

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Will Smith]

Frankly I've heard far too much from you.

This is my first and last posting.  I wish that you would quit and do so
immediately.

You are single-ahndedly ruining what had been a useful and informative
list.

And I suspect that's your full intent.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> Ah you are a wiley one.  So, you don't think I know my ass from a hole in
> the ground?  Well...what can I say but... the bottum line is you don't like
> what I have to say, don't listen!  Other people who trust me as a good
> programmer will gladly try out my product!
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Yes, bash is a shell. However, Kevin said that bash is a shell
> > commandline, he didn't say that bash is a shell.
> > That's the whole point.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:27:55PM -0500, Luke Davis wrote:
> > > Ah, but here he has a point: bash is *the* shell.:)
> > >
> >
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> >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I simply attempted to tell people about my contribution.
Kevin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Smith" <wilsmith@iglou.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Frankly I've heard far too much from you.
>
> This is my first and last posting.  I wish that you would quit and do so
> immediately.
>
> You are single-ahndedly ruining what had been a useful and informative
> list.
>
> And I suspect that's your full intent.
>
> Will
> wilsmith@iglou.com
>
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > Ah you are a wiley one.  So, you don't think I know my ass from a hole
in
> > the ground?  Well...what can I say but... the bottum line is you don't
like
> > what I have to say, don't listen!  Other people who trust me as a good
> > programmer will gladly try out my product!
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Yes, bash is a shell. However, Kevin said that bash is a shell
> > > commandline, he didn't say that bash is a shell.
> > > That's the whole point.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:27:55PM -0500, Luke Davis wrote:
> > > > Ah, but here he has a point: bash is *the* shell.:)
> > > >
> > >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Um yes I have.  In fact, the first unix shell was created in 1976.  Did you
know that?
Didn't think so!
Kevin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby@tjfisher.co.uk>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> uOn Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > And secondly, bash, as you know, is the shell (command line.)
>
> See, even that is wrong.
> Bash is not *the* shell, it is *a* shell, there are others, ever heard of
> csh or ksh, or even other born shell derivitives like ash?  No?  Didn't
> think so.
>
> Cheers.
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ameer Armaly]

What we've failed to discern from your vague messages is,
How exactly do you see it in the future.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
> if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
> Just remember this:
> I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even
mailman!
> Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > If this proves Kevin's nothing more than a mad jack, he doesn't even
know
> what bash means! Some people just don't need to mess
> > with Linux!
> > Jes
> >
> >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I will not even go down that road.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ameer Armaly" <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> What we've failed to discern from your vague messages is,
> How exactly do you see it in the future.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say
again,
> > if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
> > Just remember this:
> > I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even
> mailman!
> > Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 11:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > If this proves Kevin's nothing more than a mad jack, he doesn't even
> know
> > what bash means! Some people just don't need to mess
> > > with Linux!
> > > Jes
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Toby Fisher]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
> if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
> Just remember this:
> I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman!
> Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!

You are Bill Gates and I claim my 5 free security flaws...

Cheers.

-- 
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Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272	Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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That's it! I have had it! I was going to stay out of this discussion, but I am getting sick of this. Kevin, are you going to tell us exactly what you are talking about in plain English? You obviously can, as I have seen from some of your posts. However, as of now, all you are doing is posting little blips about what you are talking about. You may or may not have a good idea, I don't know. Either explain, in plain english, what the hell you are talking about or get lost. Ok?
--
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Toby Fisher 
  To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
  Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:22 PM
  Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


  On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

  > Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
  > if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
  > Just remember this:
  > I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman!
  > Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!

  You are Bill Gates and I claim my 5 free security flaws...

  Cheers.

  -- 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Bill gates indeed!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby@tjfisher.co.uk>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say
again,
> > if you don't believe what I have to say that's fine with me.
> > Just remember this:
> > I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even
mailman!
> > Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
>
> You are Bill Gates and I claim my 5 free security flaws...
>
> Cheers.
>
> -- 
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> Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Scott Howell]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:56:44PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say again,
> I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even mailman!
> Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
> Kevin

In other words you want to be another billyboy gates? Life will be over 
if you were to do anything to any program because the user probably 
would kill themselves. Look your shit you suck go away and quit trying 
to piss up a perfectly good Linux world. My head is really hurting and 
I'm in a perfectly good mood to seriously poor gas on your ass and light 
you  up. You want flames? Baby I got flames for you.
Now look we've given you the time of day, you've entertained us, you've 
annoyed us, now instead of writing go and produce something of value. 
You know make your mark like my dog does.

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Such hostile words indeed.  Know, I actually hate Bill Gates!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:56:44PM -0400, kevin wrote:
> > Don't know what bash means?  Now I must admit I am insulted!  I say
again,
> > I will not be stopped.  First alsa, next cups, and next maybe even
mailman!
> > Soon linux will be as I see it!  Life as you know it is over!
> > Kevin
>
> In other words you want to be another billyboy gates? Life will be over
> if you were to do anything to any program because the user probably
> would kill themselves. Look your shit you suck go away and quit trying
> to piss up a perfectly good Linux world. My head is really hurting and
> I'm in a perfectly good mood to seriously poor gas on your ass and light
> you  up. You want flames? Baby I got flames for you.
> Now look we've given you the time of day, you've entertained us, you've
> annoyed us, now instead of writing go and produce something of value.
> You know make your mark like my dog does.
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Again I wonder why we are talking about Microsoft products
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi:
> 
> Ann, my understanding is that the spell-checking fascilities are in MS
> Word (i.e. Office), and if you don't have Office installed then you don't
> have the spell checker for Outlook.
> 
> Geoff.
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Léonie Watson]

If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed have a
spell checker.

However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client, nor
the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.

    It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse the
issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to understand
an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.



Regards,
Tink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi all,
>
> You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> have a spell checker!
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.

          Kenny

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed have a
> spell checker.
> 
> However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client, nor
> the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.
> 
>     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse the
> issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to understand
> an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Tink.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > have a spell checker!
> >
> > Ann P.
> >
> > -- 
> > Ann K. Parsons
> > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
> JRRT
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Léonie Watson]

    Sorry, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think actually, you may be
right. I'd almost forgotten I had MS Office installed on this machine, as I
rarely use it these days. I can't be troubled to uninstall it, to find out,
so I'm happy to stand corrected.

Cheers,
Tink.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
> checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
> Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> > If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed have
a
> > spell checker.
> >
> > However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client,
nor
> > the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.
> >
> >     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse the
> > issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to
understand
> > an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tink.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > > have a spell checker!
> > >
> > > Ann P.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
lost."
> > JRRT
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I don't know why we're talking about Microsoft products hear.
Kevin
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


    Sorry, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think actually, you may be
right. I'd almost forgotten I had MS Office installed on this machine, as I
rarely use it these days. I can't be troubled to uninstall it, to find out,
so I'm happy to stand corrected.

Cheers,
Tink.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
> checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
> Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> > If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed have
a
> > spell checker.
> >
> > However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client,
nor
> > the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.
> >
> >     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse the
> > issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to
understand
> > an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tink.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > > have a spell checker!
> > >
> > > Ann P.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
lost."
> > JRRT
> > >
> > >
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Léonie Watson]

Because you're making it near impossible to sensibly discuss linux?

Tink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> I don't know why we're talking about Microsoft products hear.
> Kevin
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
>     Sorry, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think actually, you may be
> right. I'd almost forgotten I had MS Office installed on this machine, as
I
> rarely use it these days. I can't be troubled to uninstall it, to find
out,
> so I'm happy to stand corrected.
>
> Cheers,
> Tink.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
> > checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
> > Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> > > If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed
have
> a
> > > spell checker.
> > >
> > > However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client,
> nor
> > > the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.
> > >
> > >     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse
the
> > > issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to
> understand
> > > an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tink.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > > > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > > > have a spell checker!
> > > >
> > > > Ann P.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
> lost."
> > > JRRT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

I make it near impossible?  How in the hell is my producing my release of
the alsa tools, answering all your questions, and dealing with all of your
insults and whatever the fuck you give me a problem?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


Because you're making it near impossible to sensibly discuss linux?

Tink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> I don't know why we're talking about Microsoft products hear.
> Kevin
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
>     Sorry, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think actually, you may be
> right. I'd almost forgotten I had MS Office installed on this machine, as
I
> rarely use it these days. I can't be troubled to uninstall it, to find
out,
> so I'm happy to stand corrected.
>
> Cheers,
> Tink.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
> > checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
> > Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> > > If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed
have
> a
> > > spell checker.
> > >
> > > However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said client,
> nor
> > > the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me. Smile.
> > >
> > >     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse
the
> > > issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to
> understand
> > > an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tink.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > > > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > > > have a spell checker!
> > > >
> > > > Ann P.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
> lost."
> > > JRRT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


_______________________________________________
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ameer Armaly]

What release.
You've talked of alsa, speakup, frames, and terminal services; I'm not sure
how this fits together.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> I make it near impossible?  How in the hell is my producing my release of
> the alsa tools, answering all your questions, and dealing with all of your
> insults and whatever the fuck you give me a problem?
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> Because you're making it near impossible to sensibly discuss linux?
>
> Tink.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > I don't know why we're talking about Microsoft products hear.
> > Kevin
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Léonie Watson" <lw@nomensa.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> >     Sorry, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I think actually, you may be
> > right. I'd almost forgotten I had MS Office installed on this machine,
as
> I
> > rarely use it these days. I can't be troubled to uninstall it, to find
> out,
> > so I'm happy to stand corrected.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tink.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Hi.  When I last ran Windows, you needed MS office before the spell
> > > checker in outlook express would work.  It's been 3 years since I ran
> > > Windows so my comment was based on how it worked back then.
> > >
> > >           Kenny
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:25:47PM +0100, Léonie Watson wrote:
> > > > If I may brave a post on this subject, Outlook Express does indeed
> have
> > a
> > > > spell checker.
> > > >
> > > > However, please don't hold the fact that I'm posting from said
client,
> > nor
> > > > the fact that I'm still only a part time Linux user against me.
Smile.
> > > >
> > > >     It must be said that if it weren't for people trying to confuse
> the
> > > > issue, as with the recent ULSA thread, the process of trying to
> > understand
> > > > an alien OS would probably be a mite easier.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Tink.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
> > > > > spellchecker?  Sheesh, for what you pay for Windows, they ought to
> > > > > have a spell checker!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ann P.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > > > email:  akp@eznet.net
> > > > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
> > lost."
> > > > JRRT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi tink,

Ask whatever questions you need.  We may sent you to docs, but we'll
be happy to tell you just where they are, and if you have trouble
interpreting them, we'll give you a hand.  Ignore the extraneous
threads.

Ann P.

-- 
			Ann K. Parsons  
email:  akp@eznet.net 			
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
"All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Léonie Watson]

    Thanks. Docs are no problem and your offer is appreciated.

Cheers,
Tink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi tink,
>
> Ask whatever questions you need.  We may sent you to docs, but we'll
> be happy to tell you just where they are, and if you have trouble
> interpreting them, we'll give you a hand.  Ignore the extraneous
> threads.
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
JRRT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Krister Ekstrom]

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AP> You mean Outlook Excuse has no spell checker?  Wordpad has no
AP> spellchecker?

I don't know about Outdoor depress, because i don't use it, but The
bat!, the mail client i'm using has a spell checker. Doesn't wordpad
have a spell checker? ... I wonder that, but it wouldn't surprice me
if they didn't have one.


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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

It is simply because people want a faster sulution... a linux solution.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Hi all,
>
> Why would anyone want such a thing when there is FTP, activesync, scp
> and the like?  Why would Windows users want such a thing when there
> are any number of clients that will do the job:  wsftp, FTP Voyager,
> CuteFTP, and putty to name a few.
>
> Why would Linux users want such a thing when exchanging files is
> already easily done.  You don't explain yourself well at all, Kevin.
> Plus, you are *still* writing without using your spell checker.   I'm
> sorry, I just don't understand this at all.  It appears from where I'm
> sitting, and I'm not even a techie, to be pure bunkum!
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."
JRRT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Pulled a fast one?  Pretended? Insulted your intelligence?
None of this I have done.  I must say I do enjoy your postings shawn!
Realy, if you do not agree with me, then so be it.  Am I such a tyrant that
I demand my word be law around hear or anywhere?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> I've read bullshit in my time but this takes the bloody cake.
>
> kevin not only once again have you insulted our inteligence, you've
> proven yet again you're a total and utter moron.
> alsa is nothing more than modules and utilities for sound cards. or in
> your pathetic little ms windows world, drivers. understand brainiac?
> it doesn't take rocket science to realize once again you're talking out
> your arse.
> do us a favour and give your other end a go.
> you've got alot to learn about linux.
> and lesson 1 is.
> never, ever, compair windows to linux. you'll die in the attempt.
> and kevin you're dead. you're starting to stink man.
> enough with the claptrap already.
> make stuff up by all means but go write a book or something.. don't come
> here pretending to have coded a useful utility when in actual fact
> you've pulled a fast one on us.
> once again. go away.
>
> at the risk
> of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at
01:55:00AM -0400,
> > SPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin
results ----------------------
> > SPAM: This mail is probably spam.  The original message has been altered
> > SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
> > SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
> > SPAM:
> > SPAM: Content analysis details:   (9.6 hits, 2.5 required)
> > SPAM: Hit! (0.0 points)  BODY: Includes a URL link to send an email
> > SPAM: Hit! (-0.4 points) BODY: Contains a line >=199 characters long
> > SPAM: Hit! (10.0 points) From: address is in the user's black-list
> > SPAM:
> > SPAM: -------------------- End of SpamAssassin
results ---------------------
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C399D1.D5BB1C90
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000B_01C399D1.D5BB1C90"
> >
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C399D1.D5BB1C90
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > I would like to apologize for my past actions.  I have attached =
> > documentation for the alsa tools release
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
>
>
> -- 
> Shaun Oliver
> "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass
you have to kiss tomorrow!"
>
> EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
> ICQ: 76958435
> YAHOO: blindman01_2000
> MSN: blindman_2001@hotmail.com
> AIM: captain nemo 200
> IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666
> IRCNICK: blindman
> CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile
#mauisun
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Keith Watson]

Shaun and others,

Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he 
gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a 
post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that 
he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who 
should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.

From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
Subject: speakup question?

Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry 
familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release 
of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader 
use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
+have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
Kevin

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Well I am not an expert, I am not however, so ignorant about alsa.  I looked
at the code and after a time I came to understand it and therefore did what
I needed to do
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Watson" <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Shaun and others,
>
> Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he
> gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a
> post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that
> he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who
> should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.
>
> From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> Subject: speakup question?
>
> Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry
> familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release
> of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader
> use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
> +have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
> Kevin
>
> -- 
> Keith Watson
> kwatson@smed.yi.org
>
> Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Luke Davis]

Kevin

What is ALSA?

If you can answer that, with more than a two line obscurity, I will
continue to try to figure out what you are going for here.

 Luke

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:

> Well I am not an expert, I am not however, so ignorant about alsa.  I looked
> at the code and after a time I came to understand it and therefore did what
> I needed to do
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Watson" <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Shaun and others,
> >
> > Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he
> > gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a
> > post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that
> > he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who
> > should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.
> >
> > From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> > Subject: speakup question?
> >
> > Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry
> > familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release
> > of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader
> > use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
> > +have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > Keith Watson
> > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> >
> > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Alsa, as I am sure you know, stands for Advance Linux Sound Architecture.
It is a set a patches to the kernel.
In the windows world we would say drivers, however in Linux they are
moduals.
So, that is alsa in a nutshell.  Have I past your test?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Kevin
>
> What is ALSA?
>
> If you can answer that, with more than a two line obscurity, I will
> continue to try to figure out what you are going for here.
>
>  Luke
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > Well I am not an expert, I am not however, so ignorant about alsa.  I
looked
> > at the code and after a time I came to understand it and therefore did
what
> > I needed to do
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Watson" <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Shaun and others,
> > >
> > > Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he
> > > gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a
> > > post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that
> > > he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who
> > > should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.
> > >
> > > From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> > > Subject: speakup question?
> > >
> > > Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry
> > > familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release
> > > of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader
> > > use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
> > > +have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > --
> > > Keith Watson
> > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > >
> > > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> -- 
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ameer Armaly]

to be technical, they're not patches.
You sort of fool the kernel into using them as modules, or you can compile
them in using a 2.5x or 2.6x kernel.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> Alsa, as I am sure you know, stands for Advance Linux Sound Architecture.
> It is a set a patches to the kernel.
> In the windows world we would say drivers, however in Linux they are
> moduals.
> So, that is alsa in a nutshell.  Have I past your test?
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:46 AM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Kevin
> >
> > What is ALSA?
> >
> > If you can answer that, with more than a two line obscurity, I will
> > continue to try to figure out what you are going for here.
> >
> >  Luke
> >
> > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
> >
> > > Well I am not an expert, I am not however, so ignorant about alsa.  I
> looked
> > > at the code and after a time I came to understand it and therefore did
> what
> > > I needed to do
> > > Kevin
> > > email:
> > > kjsisco@rcn.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Keith Watson" <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> > >
> > >
> > > > Shaun and others,
> > > >
> > > > Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he
> > > > gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a
> > > > post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that
> > > > he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who
> > > > should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.
> > > >
> > > > From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> > > > Subject: speakup question?
> > > >
> > > > Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry
> > > > familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release
> > > > of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader
> > > > use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
> > > > +have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Keith Watson
> > > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > > >
> > > > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > Want a free month of internet access on a great ISP?  Go here:
> > http://www.tacticus.com/net/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[kevin]

Well yes, but some people like to use the term "patches"
and another thing, this test is not required!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ameer Armaly" <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology


> to be technical, they're not patches.
> You sort of fool the kernel into using them as modules, or you can compile
> them in using a 2.5x or 2.6x kernel.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
>
>
> > Alsa, as I am sure you know, stands for Advance Linux Sound
Architecture.
> > It is a set a patches to the kernel.
> > In the windows world we would say drivers, however in Linux they are
> > moduals.
> > So, that is alsa in a nutshell.  Have I past your test?
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> >
> >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > What is ALSA?
> > >
> > > If you can answer that, with more than a two line obscurity, I will
> > > continue to try to figure out what you are going for here.
> > >
> > >  Luke
> > >
> > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, kevin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I am not an expert, I am not however, so ignorant about alsa.
I
> > looked
> > > > at the code and after a time I came to understand it and therefore
did
> > what
> > > > I needed to do
> > > > Kevin
> > > > email:
> > > > kjsisco@rcn.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Keith Watson" <Kwatson@smed.yi.org>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:18 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** My apology
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Shaun and others,
> > > > >
> > > > > Guys, he's doing it again. Just ignore the little shit. Guess he
> > > > > gets his jollies from starting flame wars. Anyway, below is a
> > > > > post of his that I ran across that should reinforce the fact that
> > > > > he is a puffed up, ignorant, how did you say it Shaun?, ARSE! Who
> > > > > should really take his head out of there before he suffocates.
> > > > >
> > > > > From: kevin <kjsisco@rcn.com>
> > > > > Subject: speakup question?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello I have a question about the speakup project.  I am verry
> > > > > familear with the+alsa drivers because I helped with the release
> > > > > of 9.1, but I am unclear on some+things.  Does the screen reader
> > > > > use it's own internal synthesizer?  Does one
> > > > > +have to be attached?  I was not informed on this point.
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith Watson
> > > > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > > > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Want a free month of internet access on a great ISP?  Go here:
> > > http://www.tacticus.com/net/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Thomas Stivers]

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On 10/24/03  8:24 AM -0400, Ann Parsons wrote:
> C'mon folks.  If you're going to place yourself in line for firing
> from the Australian Militia, you sure as Hell don't need to ask for
> drubbing from The Rochester Grammarians Association.  Now, I mean
> really, bad tactics, bad tactics.  In short, this spam is utter and
> complete rot, deserving any and all criticism it gets! 

Thanks ever so much for this Anne. It was the second thing I read after
waking up and I haven't laughed that hard at a list post in a long time.
Perhaps it caught me in an odd mood, but at least my hang over is almost
gone. *smile*

- -- 
Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
carefully than others.
Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD
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Re: *****SPAM***** My apology

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Well, shoot, if I released your endorphins so you could get rid of
your hang-over, that's great!  <smile> 

Ann P.

-- 
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email:  akp@eznet.net 			
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
"All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT