* BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! @ John Lee ` 'Georgina' ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: John Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, I'm new in Linux. My questions are: 1. How do I download Linux. 2. Which version do I need. 3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws scripts. 4. Does speakup work with Braille. 5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. 6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? 7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a computer up and running? Urgently seeking info, thanks. John ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! John Lee @ ` 'Georgina' ` John Lee ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi > >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: gj: Welcome > >1. How do I download Linux. gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the speakup site http://linux-speakup.org >2. Which version do I need. gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see more on the speakup site. >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >scripts. gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies directory. >4. Does speakup work with Braille. gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have braille support built in. >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff on the speakup site. >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, well its very similar. >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >computer up and running? gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the list. >John > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` 'Georgina' @ ` John Lee ` Scott Howell ` 'Georgina' ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: John Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup These answers didn't really help, I read all the info on linux-speakup.org before I wrote the questions. Need more in-depth help, John -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:13 AM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! Hi > >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: gj: Welcome > >1. How do I download Linux. gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the speakup site http://linux-speakup.org >2. Which version do I need. gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see more on the speakup site. >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >scripts. gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies directory. >4. Does speakup work with Braille. gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have braille support built in. >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff on the speakup site. >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, well its very similar. >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >computer up and running? gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the list. >John > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` John Lee @ ` Scott Howell ` 'Georgina' 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Scott Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup John, I dont' recall all your questions, but one site that might prove useful, in fact I think you'll find it has tuns of info is http://www.linuxdocs.org. Good luck Scott ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` John Lee ` Scott Howell @ ` 'Georgina' ` John Lee 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi With respect you didn't read the information on the site. I'm sorry that my answers didn't help but you must check your questions carefully before posting. What do you mean when you ask how to download? Because the answer is to click on a link of either webpage or ftp site. Were you asking whether GNU/Linux is like Unix? Come on, take responsibility and ask specific questions, rather than demanding the answers to questions that are immediately accessible to you. What documentation have you read? Gena Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org >These answers didn't really help, I read all the info on linux-speakup.org >before I wrote the questions. > >Need more in-depth help, >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' >Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:13 AM >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > > >Hi > > >> >>I'm new in Linux. My questions are: >gj: Welcome >> >>1. How do I download Linux. >gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc >your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the >speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > >>2. Which version do I need. >gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which >distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see >more on the speakup site. >>3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >>scripts. >gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies >directory. > >>4. Does speakup work with Braille. >gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have >braille support built in. > >>5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. >gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff >on the speakup site. > >>6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? >gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, >well its very similar. > >>7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >>computer up and running? >gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned >with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly >google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > >> >>Urgently seeking info, thanks. >> >gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain >from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the >list. > >>John >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` 'Georgina' @ ` John Lee ` Ann Parsons ` 'Georgina' 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: John Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT HELP, NOT A LECTURE. THANKS. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:44 AM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! Hi With respect you didn't read the information on the site. I'm sorry that my answers didn't help but you must check your questions carefully before posting. What do you mean when you ask how to download? Because the answer is to click on a link of either webpage or ftp site. Were you asking whether GNU/Linux is like Unix? Come on, take responsibility and ask specific questions, rather than demanding the answers to questions that are immediately accessible to you. What documentation have you read? Gena Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org >These answers didn't really help, I read all the info on linux-speakup.org >before I wrote the questions. > >Need more in-depth help, >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' >Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:13 AM >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > > >Hi > > >> >>I'm new in Linux. My questions are: >gj: Welcome >> >>1. How do I download Linux. >gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc >your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the >speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > >>2. Which version do I need. >gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which >distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see >more on the speakup site. >>3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >>scripts. >gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies >directory. > >>4. Does speakup work with Braille. >gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have >braille support built in. > >>5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. >gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff >on the speakup site. > >>6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? >gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, >well its very similar. > >>7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >>computer up and running? >gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned >with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly >google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > >> >>Urgently seeking info, thanks. >> >gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain >from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the >list. > >>John >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` John Lee @ ` Ann Parsons ` 'Georgina' 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, Don't think we need to be that impatient with people. ZJohn, I think Gena answered most of your questions, in so far as they were asked. You asked general questions, questions which to most of us are very basic. Now, let me ask you some questions. What did you read on the speakup site, and what if anything did you gather from it? What didn't you understand? Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` John Lee ` Ann Parsons @ ` 'Georgina' ` Ann Parsons 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi And those who want to help, want the requests to be polite and specific. This aggressive demanding style will not get you what you want. I'd had waited and saw that you hadn't been responded to, so I gave you answers to each of your questions. I then gave you a dose of your own medicine with your final demand. To which you couldn't acknowledge those questions I had answered satisfactorily. Regards Gena Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org >SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT HELP, NOT A LECTURE. > >THANKS. > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' >Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:44 AM >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > > >Hi > >With respect you didn't read the information on the site. I'm sorry >that my answers didn't help but you must check your questions carefully >before posting. What do you mean when you ask how to download? Because >the answer is to click on a link of either webpage or ftp site. Were >you asking whether GNU/Linux is like Unix? Come on, take responsibility >and ask specific questions, rather than demanding the answers to >questions that are immediately accessible to you. > >What documentation have you read? > >Gena > > > >Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org > >>These answers didn't really help, I read all the info on linux-speakup.org >>before I wrote the questions. >> >>Need more in-depth help, >>John >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca >>[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of 'Georgina' >>Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:13 AM >>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! >> >> >>Hi >> >> >>> >>>I'm new in Linux. My questions are: >>gj: Welcome >>> >>>1. How do I download Linux. >>gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc >>your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the >>speakup site http://linux-speakup.org >> >>>2. Which version do I need. >>gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which >>distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see >>more on the speakup site. >>>3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >>>scripts. >>gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies >>directory. >> >>>4. Does speakup work with Braille. >>gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have >>braille support built in. >> >>>5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. >>gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff >>on the speakup site. >> >>>6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? >>gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, >>well its very similar. >> >>>7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >>>computer up and running? >>gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned >>with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly >>google search engine for non blinux user related sites. >> >>> >>>Urgently seeking info, thanks. >>> >>gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain >>from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the >>list. >> >>>John >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Speakup mailing list >>>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` 'Georgina' @ ` Ann Parsons 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Ann Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, Whew! Is there a full moon this week or what? This is the second list I've been on where people have been sniping at each other, no actually, it's the third one. How about we start all over again, folks? Would the newbie who started this thread ask his questions again, and this time, please tell us what you read and what you didn't understand. What we oldsters probably forget is that sometimes messages on Windows lists talk about how great Linux is, but they don't say what it is. They give a whole lot of misinformation too, so that when the newbie finds a list like this one, he or she has to get all the misinformation trashed before the real stuff can be assimilated. Let's give John our newest newbie another chance to get things clarified. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` 'Georgina' ` John Lee @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Alex Snow ` 'Georgina' 1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Gena: What the copulating hades ever possessed you to write such a post? I understand that we're all a bit tense because of Teddy's constant trolling, but there's no reason to blast those who might not organize their thoughts in the way that *you* approve of. What really pisses me off about your post, is that's a perfect example of what some folks, Teddy for example, bitch about the Linux community for. That's the reason I'm not on the Blinux list, for example. The really cool thing about the Speakup list is that, in the vast majority of cases, we've been free of such trash. No-one is holding a gun to your head requiring you to answer every post that you read. If a question doesn't meet your ultra high standards for organization, why not do the Net a favor and just move on without responding. Thanks for listening. Bill in Denver On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > Hi > > > > > >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: > gj: Welcome > > > >1. How do I download Linux. > gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc > your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the > speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > > >2. Which version do I need. > gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which > distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see > more on the speakup site. > >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws > >scripts. > gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies > directory. > > >4. Does speakup work with Braille. > gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have > braille support built in. > > >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. > gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff > on the speakup site. > > >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? > gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, > well its very similar. > > >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a > >computer up and running? > gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned > with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly > google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > > > > >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > > > gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain > from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the > list. > > >John > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ ` Alex Snow ` John Lee ` 'Georgina' 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I Agree. I mean, guys, This is another new linux user, and all he needs is some pointers to get him going. And, lets give him a good first impression of how usefull this list is and how helpfull it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" <wacker@octothorp.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > Gena: > > What the copulating hades ever possessed you to write such a post? I > understand that we're all a bit tense because of Teddy's constant > trolling, but there's no reason to blast those who might not organize > their thoughts in the way that *you* approve of. What really pisses me off > about your post, is that's a perfect example of what some folks, Teddy for > example, bitch about the Linux community for. That's the reason I'm not > on the Blinux list, for example. The really cool thing about the Speakup > list is that, in the vast majority of cases, we've been free of such > trash. No-one is holding a gun to your head requiring you to answer every > post that you read. If a question doesn't meet your ultra high standards > for organization, why not do the Net a favor and just move on without > responding. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > Bill in Denver > > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: > > gj: Welcome > > > > > >1. How do I download Linux. > > gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc > > your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the > > speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > > > > >2. Which version do I need. > > gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which > > distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see > > more on the speakup site. > > >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws > > >scripts. > > gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies > > directory. > > > > >4. Does speakup work with Braille. > > gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have > > braille support built in. > > > > >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. > > gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff > > on the speakup site. > > > > >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? > > gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, > > well its very similar. > > > > >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a > > >computer up and running? > > gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned > > with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly > > google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > > > > > > > >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > > > > > gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain > > from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the > > list. > > > > >John > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* RE: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` Alex Snow @ ` John Lee 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: John Lee @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup THANKS ALEX JOHN -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 3:37 PM To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! I Agree. I mean, guys, This is another new linux user, and all he needs is some pointers to get him going. And, lets give him a good first impression of how usefull this list is and how helpfull it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" <wacker@octothorp.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > Gena: > > What the copulating hades ever possessed you to write such a post? I > understand that we're all a bit tense because of Teddy's constant > trolling, but there's no reason to blast those who might not organize > their thoughts in the way that *you* approve of. What really pisses me off > about your post, is that's a perfect example of what some folks, Teddy for > example, bitch about the Linux community for. That's the reason I'm not > on the Blinux list, for example. The really cool thing about the Speakup > list is that, in the vast majority of cases, we've been free of such > trash. No-one is holding a gun to your head requiring you to answer every > post that you read. If a question doesn't meet your ultra high standards > for organization, why not do the Net a favor and just move on without > responding. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > Bill in Denver > > > On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: > > gj: Welcome > > > > > >1. How do I download Linux. > > gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc > > your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the > > speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > > > > >2. Which version do I need. > > gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which > > distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see > > more on the speakup site. > > >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws > > >scripts. > > gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies > > directory. > > > > >4. Does speakup work with Braille. > > gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have > > braille support built in. > > > > >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. > > gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff > > on the speakup site. > > > > >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? > > gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, > > well its very similar. > > > > >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a > > >computer up and running? > > gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned > > with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly > > google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > > > > > > > >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > > > > > gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain > > from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the > > list. > > > > >John > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Alex Snow @ ` 'Georgina' ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: 'Georgina' @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Apologies for returning the tone that was received. But the most valuable lesson that original poster needs to learn is to be able to ask politely and precisely what it is they want. I notice you haven't attempted to answer the impossible questions. I look forward to discussing these issues on the reflecter with you. I'm hurt that you suggest that I have ultra high standards. I was attempting to help. There are many posts to which I do not reply. Gena Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org >Gena: > > What the copulating hades ever possessed you to write such a post? I >understand that we're all a bit tense because of Teddy's constant >trolling, but there's no reason to blast those who might not organize >their thoughts in the way that *you* approve of. What really pisses me off >about your post, is that's a perfect example of what some folks, Teddy for >example, bitch about the Linux community for. That's the reason I'm not >on the Blinux list, for example. The really cool thing about the Speakup >list is that, in the vast majority of cases, we've been free of such >trash. No-one is holding a gun to your head requiring you to answer every >post that you read. If a question doesn't meet your ultra high standards >for organization, why not do the Net a favor and just move on without >responding. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > Bill in Denver > > >On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > >> Hi >> >> >> > >> >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: >> gj: Welcome >> > >> >1. How do I download Linux. >> gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc >> your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the >> speakup site http://linux-speakup.org >> >> >2. Which version do I need. >> gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which >> distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see >> more on the speakup site. >> >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws >> >scripts. >> gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies >> directory. >> >> >4. Does speakup work with Braille. >> gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have >> braille support built in. >> >> >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. >> gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff >> on the speakup site. >> >> >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? >> gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, >> well its very similar. >> >> >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a >> >computer up and running? >> gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned >> with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly >> google search engine for non blinux user related sites. >> >> > >> >Urgently seeking info, thanks. >> > >> gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain >> from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the >> list. >> >> >John >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! ` 'Georgina' @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Actually, I did answer most, if not all of Jon's questions by phone. I greatly prefer voice communication and it seems to work out for John also. And I must say that I found nothing rude or offensive in any of his posts. He just asked a bunch of non-specific questions all at once. I am deeply sorry if I hurt you in any way, Gena. You folks are my brothers and sisters in the communities, both blindness and Linux. But I value this list where people can com with any question about Linux or Speakup and get accurate and friendly assistance. Now I'm off to the reflector to see if you're around. Hope this clarifies my position, somewhat. Bill On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > Hi > > Apologies for returning the tone that was received. But the most > valuable lesson that original poster needs to learn is to be able to ask > politely and precisely what it is they want. I notice you haven't > attempted to answer the impossible questions. I look forward to > discussing these issues on the reflecter with you. > > I'm hurt that you suggest that I have ultra high standards. I was > attempting to help. There are many posts to which I do not reply. > Gena > > > > Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org > > >Gena: > > > > What the copulating hades ever possessed you to write such a post? I > >understand that we're all a bit tense because of Teddy's constant > >trolling, but there's no reason to blast those who might not organize > >their thoughts in the way that *you* approve of. What really pisses me off > >about your post, is that's a perfect example of what some folks, Teddy for > >example, bitch about the Linux community for. That's the reason I'm not > >on the Blinux list, for example. The really cool thing about the Speakup > >list is that, in the vast majority of cases, we've been free of such > >trash. No-one is holding a gun to your head requiring you to answer every > >post that you read. If a question doesn't meet your ultra high standards > >for organization, why not do the Net a favor and just move on without > >responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > > Bill in Denver > > > > > >On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, 'Georgina' wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> > >> > > >> >I'm new in Linux. My questions are: > >> gj: Welcome > >> > > >> >1. How do I download Linux. > >> gj: Umm, don't know don't have a crystal ball to see what browser etc > >> your using. As with many of your questions below, try looking at the > >> speakup site http://linux-speakup.org > >> > >> >2. Which version do I need. > >> gj: The latest might be a good start. If your referring to which > >> distribution then that's a matter of personal choice. Again you'll see > >> more on the speakup site. > >> >3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws > >> >scripts. > >> gj: Do you mean where? Try looking on the speakup site's goodies > >> directory. > >> > >> >4. Does speakup work with Braille. > >> gj: Yes speakup will work along side brltty but speakup doesn't have > >> braille support built in. > >> > >> >5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. > >> gj: Yes, but none of them will work with speakup. Again read the stuff > >> on the speakup site. > >> > >> >6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? > >> gj: Again I need a crystal ball. I think that your asking about Unix, > >> well its very similar. > >> > >> >7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a > >> >computer up and running? > >> gj: Again a good starting point is the speakup site, if your concerned > >> with installing a talking distribution. But why not use your friendly > >> google search engine for non blinux user related sites. > >> > >> > > >> >Urgently seeking info, thanks. > >> > > >> gj: So why are you waisting my time asking questions that you can gain > >> from the speakup site, which you must be aware of as you've joined the > >> list. > >> > >> >John > >> > > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! John Lee ` 'Georgina' @ ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lee" <COMPUTERSANDME@NC.RR.COM> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:14 PM Subject: BEGINNER--GOT QUESTIONS! > Hi, > > I'm new in Linux. My questions are: > > 1. How do I download Linux. Well, You will need a fast internet connection, and a cdr drive. How you get linyux depends on which flavor. You should check out: ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/ for more info. > 2. Which version do I need. Just get whatever version is on the speakup ftp server. You need: redhat 7.2 or better, debian 2.2, slackware 7/8. > 3. How do I download speakfreely for linux and windows, I got the jaws > scripts. try: www.speakfreely.org > 4. Does speakup work with Braille. I'm not going to answer this question, because I'm not sure. > 5. Are there software synthesizers available for linux. Yes there are software synths for linux, but they don't work with speakup. > 6. How closely related tounix is linux inits command structure? Linux is a form of unix > 7. When can I go to a site to learn linux, how to install it and get a > computer up and running? That's what this list is for. > > Urgently seeking info, thanks. > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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