* Re: Centos-and-Speakup?
@ Keith Hinton
` Centos-and-Speakup? Steve Holmes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Keith Hinton @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
I suggest that if you want something worth looking at, that won't require
loads of trying to maintaine with Speakup, try Arch Linux.
Search for Arch Linux for the blind in any search enjin, and download the
ISO of your choice.
The wiki describes what you need to do, but in short:
You would do the steps listed below:
1. Log in as root.
2. Type export DIALOGOPTS='--visit-items'
3. Run: /arch/setup after you've enabled highlight tracking.
4. Once you've navigated successfully through the Arch installation process,
you'll want to add speakup and speakup_soft to the MODULES () section of the
rc.conf file.
I usually go with the default editor, Nano.
Also add alsa and espeakup to the DAEMONS section.
If you want to know the full list of steps, please consult the wiki.
Alturnitively, for your specific synthesizer you would not add speakup_soft
as an option.
Just substitute what your trying to use in place of speakup_sof.
See if that helps.
Regards, --Keith
Skype: skypedude1234
Twitter/AIM/Yahoo: keithint1234
MSN: keithint37@hotmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/keith.hinton1
Website: http://www.keithnet.us
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* Re: Centos-and-Speakup?
Centos-and-Speakup? Keith Hinton
@ ` Steve Holmes
` Centos-and-Speakup? David Csercsics
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Another selling point for Arch is the rolling update nature of the
beast. There will never be a "major update occurring every six months
or whatever; it just gets updated whenever you run the update utility
and if / when it finds packages to be updated. What surprises me
about it is it resembles Debian Unstable but yet mostly production
versions of applications are used and it very rarely breaks. I've run
into a couple instances but things were resolved within a day each
time.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Keith Hinton wrote:
> Hi,
> I suggest that if you want something worth looking at, that won't require
> loads of trying to maintaine with Speakup, try Arch Linux.
> Search for Arch Linux for the blind in any search enjin, and download the
> ISO of your choice.
> The wiki describes what you need to do, but in short:
> You would do the steps listed below:
> 1. Log in as root.
> 2. Type export DIALOGOPTS='--visit-items'
> 3. Run: /arch/setup after you've enabled highlight tracking.
> 4. Once you've navigated successfully through the Arch installation process,
> you'll want to add speakup and speakup_soft to the MODULES () section of the
> rc.conf file.
> I usually go with the default editor, Nano.
> Also add alsa and espeakup to the DAEMONS section.
> If you want to know the full list of steps, please consult the wiki.
> Alturnitively, for your specific synthesizer you would not add speakup_soft
> as an option.
> Just substitute what your trying to use in place of speakup_sof.
> See if that helps.
>
> Regards, --Keith
> Skype: skypedude1234
> Twitter/AIM/Yahoo: keithint1234
> MSN: keithint37@hotmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/keith.hinton1
> Website: http://www.keithnet.us
>
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Centos-and-Speakup? Steve Holmes
@ ` David Csercsics
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Csercsics @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On 17/11/2010 5:23 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Another selling point for Arch is the rolling update nature of the
> beast. There will never be a "major update occurring every six months
> or whatever; it just gets updated whenever you run the update utility
> and if / when it finds packages to be updated. What surprises me
> about it is it resembles Debian Unstable but yet mostly production
> versions of applications are used and it very rarely breaks. I've run
> into a couple instances but things were resolved within a day each
> time.
And even if something breaks if you know how to build stuff you can grab
the upstream fixes and hack it in place yourself because pacman is very
hacker-friendly. Almost as good as Slackware that way.
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* Centos-and-Speakup?
@ Hart Larry
` Centos-and-Speakup? William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi All: Well, looks like `finally around December 03 I will have help in
upgrading my PC, including an OS? 1 of my tcsh experts is suggesting I try
Centos. In running google searches, I see 2 postings in 2008 on this subject.
Has it become any easier installing Centos with Speakup?
In looking over the centos site, I see nothing about screen-readers, so I have
no idea what's available?
In considering an OS, I would want something which is not such a major project
to update versions. Also, many times in fc9 yum does not find dependancies, so
I must manually find missing pieces. Also in some cases Fedora does not ship
mp3 related software, such as certain SOX plugins.
Would Centos accmplish these for me? And I am still enjoying a DecTalk USB, so
would the drivers work in Centos?
And lastly what about OCR packages with Centos?
I look forward t reading your collective comments, so I can make the right
discision for me, as I am not a programmer, just a happy user.
Thanks so much in advance
Hart
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* Re: Centos-and-Speakup?
Centos-and-Speakup? Hart Larry
@ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209
` Centos-and-Speakup? Hart Larry
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
Centos is just a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I've never
successfully patched Speakup into a Centos/RHEL kernel, although this
might have changed. Even though I'm the maintainer of Speakup Modified
Linux and intend to continue doing that, I can't actually recommend it
unless you can get assistance reading the screen either remotely or locally
during the installation. I hope this will change in the future, but
that's just a hope. Why not try Debian. I understand it can be installed
in text mode and a big selling point for Debian is that, once installed,
you don't ever have to re-install. You just use the normal update tools
to install a new version. BTW, Fedora is moving toward this also, but I
wouldn't recommend starting from F9.
HTH.
--
Bill in Denver
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Hart Larry wrote:
> Hi All: Well, looks like `finally around December 03 I will have help in
> upgrading my PC, including an OS? 1 of my tcsh experts is suggesting I try
> Centos. In running google searches, I see 2 postings in 2008 on this
> subject. Has it become any easier installing Centos with Speakup?
> In looking over the centos site, I see nothing about screen-readers, so I
> have no idea what's available?
> In considering an OS, I would want something which is not such a major
> project to update versions. Also, many times in fc9 yum does not find
> dependancies, so I must manually find missing pieces. Also in some cases
> Fedora does not ship mp3 related software, such as certain SOX plugins.
> Would Centos accmplish these for me? And I am still enjoying a DecTalk USB,
> so would the drivers work in Centos?
> And lastly what about OCR packages with Centos?
> I look forward t reading your collective comments, so I can make the right
> discision for me, as I am not a programmer, just a happy user.
> Thanks so much in advance
> Hart
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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` Centos-and-Speakup? William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209
@ ` Hart Larry
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Thanks Bill, actually I will probably have at least 3days of sighted help from
a Broadcast engineer who loves Linux. I will save and share replies with those
outside of this community who will be helping me.
As some background, what helped intensify my upgrade, has been what happened to
my PC since Election Day. I began seeing journal errors on my /mnt/f drive, so
I tried unmounting. For some reason I umnounted alot--and-file systems became
read only. I could not even successfully edit fstab with nano. Other than
just a hookup to my shell account, I cannot do much with the machine. When I
go in bash and hit escape 4times, it says I have 530 programs. Mostly
everything, including "who" says command not found. It will not let me mount
anything--and-if I go to a console not logged in, and try, just hangs. Some at
the LUG meeting say I should pull the plug-and-not use the machine, as they
think I am in a lo level recovery mode. Thanks in advance
O, this all began with a memory stick going bad-and-crashing the machine
Hart
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