Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

[Keith Hinton]

Hi,
I suggest that if you want something worth looking at, that won't require
loads of trying to maintaine with Speakup, try Arch Linux.
Search for Arch Linux for the blind in any search enjin, and download the
ISO of your choice.
The wiki describes what you need to do, but in short:
You would do the steps listed below:
1. Log in as root.
2. Type export DIALOGOPTS='--visit-items'
3. Run: /arch/setup after you've enabled highlight tracking.
4. Once you've navigated successfully through the Arch installation process,
you'll want to add speakup and speakup_soft to the MODULES () section of the
rc.conf file.
I usually go with the default editor, Nano.
Also add alsa and espeakup to the DAEMONS section.
If you want to know the full list of steps, please consult the wiki.
Alturnitively, for your specific synthesizer you would not add speakup_soft
as an option.
Just substitute what your trying to use in place of speakup_sof.
See if that helps.

Regards, --Keith
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Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

[Steve Holmes]

Another selling point for Arch is the rolling update nature of the
beast.  There will never be a "major update occurring every six months
or whatever; it just gets updated whenever you run the update utility
and if / when it finds packages to be updated.  What surprises me
about it is it resembles Debian Unstable but yet mostly production
versions of applications are used and it very rarely breaks.  I've run
into a couple instances but things were resolved within a day each
time.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Keith Hinton wrote:
> Hi,
> I suggest that if you want something worth looking at, that won't require
> loads of trying to maintaine with Speakup, try Arch Linux.
> Search for Arch Linux for the blind in any search enjin, and download the
> ISO of your choice.
> The wiki describes what you need to do, but in short:
> You would do the steps listed below:
> 1. Log in as root.
> 2. Type export DIALOGOPTS='--visit-items'
> 3. Run: /arch/setup after you've enabled highlight tracking.
> 4. Once you've navigated successfully through the Arch installation process,
> you'll want to add speakup and speakup_soft to the MODULES () section of the
> rc.conf file.
> I usually go with the default editor, Nano.
> Also add alsa and espeakup to the DAEMONS section.
> If you want to know the full list of steps, please consult the wiki.
> Alturnitively, for your specific synthesizer you would not add speakup_soft
> as an option.
> Just substitute what your trying to use in place of speakup_sof.
> See if that helps.
> 
> Regards, --Keith
> Skype: skypedude1234
> Twitter/AIM/Yahoo: keithint1234
> MSN: keithint37@hotmail.com
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/keith.hinton1
> Website: http://www.keithnet.us 
> 
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Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

[David Csercsics]

On 17/11/2010 5:23 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Another selling point for Arch is the rolling update nature of the
> beast.  There will never be a "major update occurring every six months
> or whatever; it just gets updated whenever you run the update utility
> and if / when it finds packages to be updated.  What surprises me
> about it is it resembles Debian Unstable but yet mostly production
> versions of applications are used and it very rarely breaks.  I've run
> into a couple instances but things were resolved within a day each
> time.

And even if something breaks if you know how to build stuff you can grab 
the upstream fixes and hack it in place yourself because pacman is very 
hacker-friendly. Almost as good as Slackware that way.

Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

[Hart Larry]

Thanks Bill, actually I will probably have at least 3days of sighted help from 
a Broadcast engineer who loves Linux.  I will save and share replies with those 
outside of this community who will be helping me.
As some background, what helped intensify my upgrade, has been what happened to 
my PC since Election Day.  I began seeing journal errors on my /mnt/f drive, so 
I tried unmounting.  For some reason I umnounted alot--and-file systems became 
read only.  I could not even successfully edit fstab with nano.  Other than 
just a hookup to my shell account, I cannot do much with the machine.  When I 
go in bash and hit escape 4times, it says I have 530 programs.  Mostly 
everything, including "who" says command not found.  It will not let me mount 
anything--and-if I go to a console not logged in, and try, just hangs.  Some at 
the LUG meeting say I should pull the plug-and-not use the machine, as they 
think I am in a lo level recovery mode.  Thanks in advance
O, this all began with a memory stick going bad-and-crashing the machine
Hart

Re: Centos-and-Speakup?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209]

Hi,

      Centos is just a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I've never 
successfully patched Speakup into a Centos/RHEL kernel, although this 
might have changed. Even though I'm the maintainer of Speakup Modified 
Linux and intend to continue doing that, I can't actually recommend it 
unless you can get assistance reading the screen either remotely or locally 
during the installation.  I hope this will change in the future, but 
that's just a hope.  Why not try Debian.  I understand it can be installed 
in text mode and a big selling point for Debian is that, once installed, 
you don't ever have to re-install.  You just use the normal update tools 
to install a new version.  BTW, Fedora is moving toward this also, but I 
wouldn't recommend starting from F9.

           HTH.


-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Hart Larry wrote:

> Hi All:  Well, looks like `finally around December 03 I will have help in 
> upgrading my PC, including an OS?  1 of my tcsh experts is suggesting I try 
> Centos.  In running google searches, I see 2 postings in 2008 on this 
> subject. Has it become any easier installing Centos with Speakup?
> In looking over the centos site, I see nothing about screen-readers, so I 
> have no idea what's available?
> In considering an OS, I would want something which is not such a major 
> project to update versions.  Also, many times in fc9 yum does not find 
> dependancies, so I must manually find missing pieces.  Also in some cases 
> Fedora does not ship mp3 related software, such as certain SOX plugins.
> Would Centos accmplish these for me?  And I am still enjoying a DecTalk USB, 
> so would the drivers work in Centos?
> And lastly what about OCR packages with Centos?
> I look forward t reading your collective comments, so I can make the right 
> discision for me, as I am not a programmer, just a happy user.
> Thanks so much in advance
> Hart
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Centos-and-Speakup?

[Hart Larry]

Hi All:  Well, looks like `finally around December 03 I will have help in 
upgrading my PC, including an OS?  1 of my tcsh experts is suggesting I try 
Centos.  In running google searches, I see 2 postings in 2008 on this subject. 
Has it become any easier installing Centos with Speakup?
In looking over the centos site, I see nothing about screen-readers, so I have 
no idea what's available?
In considering an OS, I would want something which is not such a major project 
to update versions.  Also, many times in fc9 yum does not find dependancies, so 
I must manually find missing pieces.  Also in some cases Fedora does not ship 
mp3 related software, such as certain SOX plugins.
Would Centos accmplish these for me?  And I am still enjoying a DecTalk USB, so 
would the drivers work in Centos?
And lastly what about OCR packages with Centos?
I look forward t reading your collective comments, so I can make the right 
discision for me, as I am not a programmer, just a happy user.
Thanks so much in advance
Hart