* programm issues--moving files back and forth @ Tyler Littlefield ` luke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello list, I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go to the folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the old file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with long files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some reason; any other suggestions would be welcome. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth programm issues--moving files back and forth Tyler Littlefield @ ` luke ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS would work better, and be easier to setup. On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > Hello list, > I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go to the > folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the old > file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. > Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with long > files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. > I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some reason; any > other suggestions would be welcome. > > > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > web: tysdomain-com > Visit for quality software and web design. > skype: st8amnd2005 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` luke @ ` Tyler Littlefield ` Kerry Hoath 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'll take a look. Thanks! Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? > Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS would > work better, and be easier to setup. > > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > >> Hello list, >> I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go to >> the >> folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the >> old >> file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. >> Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with >> long >> files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. >> I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some reason; >> any >> other suggestions would be welcome. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >> web: tysdomain-com >> Visit for quality software and web design. >> skype: st8amnd2005 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` Kerry Hoath ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. try using winscp on the windows side, and an editor like notetab lite (or pro if you want to buy it) if you're editing under Windows. You can get winscp to edit files when you press enter on them. Failing that why not use samba or are we talking 2 Linux boxes here? Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:53 AM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > I'll take a look. Thanks! > > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > web: tysdomain-com > Visit for quality software and web design. > skype: st8amnd2005 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > >>I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? >> Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS would >> work better, and be easier to setup. >> >> >> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go to >>> the >>> folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the >>> old >>> file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. >>> Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with >>> long >>> files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. >>> I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some reason; >>> any >>> other suggestions would be welcome. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield >>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>> web: tysdomain-com >>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Tyler Littlefield ` luke ` Kerry Hoath 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. samba doesn't work because I don't want to open the port and my box is dmzed. I can't access it like that because I don't have an internal IP. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > try using winscp on the windows side, > and an editor like notetab lite (or pro if you want to buy it) if you're > editing under Windows. > You can get winscp to edit files when you press enter on them. > Failing that why not use samba or are we talking 2 Linux boxes here? > Regards, Kerry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:53 AM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > >> I'll take a look. Thanks! >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >> web: tysdomain-com >> Visit for quality software and web design. >> skype: st8amnd2005 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM >> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >> >> >>>I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? >>> Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS would >>> work better, and be easier to setup. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >>> >>>> Hello list, >>>> I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go to >>>> the >>>> folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the >>>> old >>>> file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. >>>> Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with >>>> long >>>> files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. >>>> I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some reason; >>>> any >>>> other suggestions would be welcome. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>>> web: tysdomain-com >>>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` luke ` Kerry Hoath 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If you have a configuration where you don't want to open ports, but need traffic to pass securely, I would suggest you look into a point to point OpenVPN tunnel. Keep everything closed (it communicates over UDP, both ends have the same port, and it has auto retry, so you don't even need to open a firewall port for it), and route your traffic over that. The last part of that configuration is non-trivial, and you'll come away from it knowing more than you ever wanted about iproute2 (unless you configure OpenVPN as a grafted on secure class C network, for which there are tutorials, all be it ones I have never successfully followed). Luke On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > samba doesn't work because I don't want to open the port and my box is dmzed. > I can't access it like that because I don't have an internal IP. > > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > web: tysdomain-com > Visit for quality software and web design. > skype: st8amnd2005 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > > > try using winscp on the windows side, > > and an editor like notetab lite (or pro if you want to buy it) if you're > > editing under Windows. > > You can get winscp to edit files when you press enter on them. > > Failing that why not use samba or are we talking 2 Linux boxes here? > > Regards, Kerry. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:53 AM > > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > > > > > > I'll take a look. Thanks! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tyler Littlefield > > > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > > > web: tysdomain-com > > > Visit for quality software and web design. > > > skype: st8amnd2005 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> > > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > > > > > > > > > I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? > > > > Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS would > > > > work better, and be easier to setup. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go > > > > > to the > > > > > folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the > > > > > old > > > > > file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. > > > > > Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with > > > > > long > > > > > files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. > > > > > I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some > > > > > reason; any > > > > > other suggestions would be welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Tyler Littlefield > > > > > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > > > > > web: tysdomain-com > > > > > Visit for quality software and web design. > > > > > skype: st8amnd2005 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Tyler Littlefield ` luke @ ` Kerry Hoath ` Tyler Littlefield ` luke 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Sounds like you should learn a little about how to configure your network correctly. We're running Cisco classes next year for the vision impaired, www.cucat.org. dmz is a bad idea, anyone who forwards all ports to any box without serious consideration for network security is asking for trouble, similarly to those who run modems in bridge mode and the like. If the box does not have an internal ip how does the other machine talk to it (assuming you have another machine?) Even vmware and other virtualization products provide the ability to segment off your network with bridges and Nat. It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. Why these problems are an issue for the speakup list; i'll never know; although it seems the list for any blinky linux trouble these days. Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > samba doesn't work because I don't want to open the port and my box is > dmzed. I can't access it like that because I don't have an internal IP. > > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield > email: tyler@tysdomain.com > web: tysdomain-com > Visit for quality software and web design. > skype: st8amnd2005 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > >> try using winscp on the windows side, >> and an editor like notetab lite (or pro if you want to buy it) if you're >> editing under Windows. >> You can get winscp to edit files when you press enter on them. >> Failing that why not use samba or are we talking 2 Linux boxes here? >> Regards, Kerry. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:53 AM >> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >> >> >>> I'll take a look. Thanks! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield >>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>> web: tysdomain-com >>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >>> >>> >>>>I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? >>>> Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS >>>> would >>>> work better, and be easier to setup. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello list, >>>>> I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go >>>>> to the >>>>> folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete the >>>>> old >>>>> file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. >>>>> Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but with >>>>> long >>>>> files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. >>>>> I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some >>>>> reason; any >>>>> other suggestions would be welcome. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>>>> web: tysdomain-com >>>>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>>>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Tyler Littlefield ` Kerry Hoath ` luke 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. First, I'm well aware of the problems with dmzing my system. I don't plan to visit cisco for the blind, as any cisco site would do just fine for teaching me what I need to know. Incidentally, until I win the lottery or something similar happens I don't think i'll be owning a cisco router. As for configuring the network, I believe I've got a decent grasp of what I'm doing. Thanks for the tip though. Second, I've seen other questions related to linux on here, if there's a problem I'm sure Kirk will let me know. As he hasn't done so thus far, I'm sure I'm not out of bounds, feel fre to let me know otherwise. As this router can barely stay alive, I'm sure that dmzing my box hasn't put it in mortal parel, I've just saved it overprocessing, and I actually feel a bit better with linux's firewall running in front of everything. It's a cheap way out of running a linux box as a router, but I haven't gotten the time to set that up as of yet, so... Dmz it is. Anyway, thanks to the others who provided help. SSHFs seems promising, and i'll take a look into that more tomorrow or later on this week. The goal is just to take what I'm working on in windows and get it over to linux in a fascion that won't take forever, and preserve formatting. I had to use ftp to do that a while back, and it was a slow process; copying and pasting in SecureCRT didn't preserve the formatting. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > Sounds like you should learn a little about how to configure your network > correctly. > We're running Cisco classes next year for the vision impaired, > www.cucat.org. > > dmz is a bad idea, anyone who forwards all ports to any box without > serious consideration for network security is asking for trouble, > similarly to those who run modems in bridge mode and the like. > If the box does not have an internal ip how does the other machine talk to > it (assuming you have another machine?) > Even vmware and other virtualization products provide the ability to > segment off your network with bridges and Nat. > It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of > solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. > > Why these problems are an issue for the speakup list; i'll never know; > although it seems the list for any blinky linux trouble these days. > > Regards, Kerry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > >> samba doesn't work because I don't want to open the port and my box is >> dmzed. I can't access it like that because I don't have an internal IP. >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >> web: tysdomain-com >> Visit for quality software and web design. >> skype: st8amnd2005 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:34 PM >> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >> >> >>> try using winscp on the windows side, >>> and an editor like notetab lite (or pro if you want to buy it) if you're >>> editing under Windows. >>> You can get winscp to edit files when you press enter on them. >>> Failing that why not use samba or are we talking 2 Linux boxes here? >>> Regards, Kerry. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >>> >>> >>>> I'll take a look. Thanks! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>>> web: tysdomain-com >>>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> >>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:20 PM >>>> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >>>> >>>> >>>>>I don't know enough about what you're doing, but maybe sshfs? >>>>> Or even NFS? Although it would seem that if NFS would work, SSHFS >>>>> would >>>>> work better, and be easier to setup. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello list, >>>>>> I'm trying to save time when I'm programming; currently I have to go >>>>>> to the >>>>>> folder where the file is, copy it, go to the ftp directory, delete >>>>>> the old >>>>>> file, and paste. This works, but i need to find a quicker way. >>>>>> Before I was using secureCRT, and I would just paste in Pico, but >>>>>> with long >>>>>> files it doesn't preserve the formatting and the compiler flipps out. >>>>>> I'm not able to use SecureCRT to edit files with pico, for some >>>>>> reason; any >>>>>> other suggestions would be welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com >>>>>> web: tysdomain-com >>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design. >>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` Kerry Hoath ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I respond to the first portion of your message below, the second is for the list owners and not myself to judge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > First, I'm well aware of the problems with dmzing my system. I don't plan > to visit cisco for the blind, as any cisco site would do just fine for > teaching me what I need to know. Incidentally, until I win the lottery or > something similar happens I don't think i'll be owning a cisco router. > As for configuring the network, I believe I've got a decent grasp of what > I'm doing. Thanks for the tip though. This is a common missconception regarding Cisco training, and in fact any vendor training you may undertake. Whilst Cisco does concentrate on Cisco routers in the later modules; it does provide a good introduction to network concepts and provides a foundation of understanding on various network topics. Your assercion regarding beeing able to gain the knowledge you seek from any Cisco sight is sadly incorrect on a number of levels. Firstly; "Cisco for the blind" is not an exercise in patrinization; it is a concerted effort to render the Cisco learning institute's resources in a more accessible format, including diagram descriptions which explain what is in the pictures and diagrams as you go through the courses. Network layouts are described, and you are given access to real router hardware remotely to practice your skills on. In many cases sighted people use a simulator which is completely inaccessible to us; although work is ongoing to make these resources accessible. Learning institute has invested significant time in increasing accessability to these resources, which is more than I can say for Microsoft. Negotiations with Apple are ongoing regarding their admin courses for the blind. It is of course up to you with whom you study and for what reasons, and I am bringing the program to your attention purely to make you aware of its existance. Your lack of interest and free beer attitude has been noted. It would help the list greatly if you could actually state your problems clearly and concisely with information on what you are trying to do and what equipment you have at your disposal. "I can't edit source code in pico with ntcrt" doesn't help as we don't know what platform the source is for, what compiler is beeing used or what line endings the compiler expects. The first step in problem solving is defining your problem and communicating it to the people who may choose to help you out of the kindness of their hearts. Regards, Kerry. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Kerry Hoath @ ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. well, thanks for the info on cisco; I was not aware of the global training. I'll check out the website, though I know people who have went through public schools and completed the certification, so I'd like to see if I can do that. It may help with it though. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:27 AM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth >I respond to the first portion of your message below, the second is for the >list owners and not myself to judge. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > > >> First, I'm well aware of the problems with dmzing my system. I don't plan >> to visit cisco for the blind, as any cisco site would do just fine for >> teaching me what I need to know. Incidentally, until I win the lottery or >> something similar happens I don't think i'll be owning a cisco router. >> As for configuring the network, I believe I've got a decent grasp of what >> I'm doing. Thanks for the tip though. > > This is a common missconception regarding Cisco training, and in fact any > vendor training you may undertake. > Whilst Cisco does concentrate on Cisco routers in the later modules; > it does provide a good introduction to network concepts and provides a > foundation of understanding on various network topics. > Your assercion regarding beeing able to gain the knowledge you seek from > any Cisco sight is sadly incorrect on a number of levels. > Firstly; "Cisco for the blind" is not an exercise in patrinization; it is > a concerted effort to render the Cisco learning institute's resources in a > more accessible format, including diagram descriptions which explain what > is in the pictures and diagrams as you go through the courses. > Network layouts are described, and you are given access to real router > hardware remotely to practice your skills on. > In many cases sighted people use a simulator which is completely > inaccessible to us; although work is ongoing to make these resources > accessible. > > Learning institute has invested significant time in increasing > accessability to these resources, which is more than I can say for > Microsoft. > Negotiations with Apple are ongoing regarding their admin courses for the > blind. > > It is of course up to you with whom you study and for what reasons, > and I am bringing the program to your attention purely to make you aware > of its existance. Your lack of interest and free beer attitude has been > noted. > > It would help the list greatly if you could actually state your problems > clearly and concisely with information on what you are trying to do and > what equipment you have at your disposal. > "I can't edit source code in pico with ntcrt" doesn't help as we don't > know what platform the source is for, > what compiler is beeing used or what line endings the compiler expects. > The first step in problem solving is defining your problem and > communicating it to the people who may choose to help you out of the > kindness of their hearts. > Regards, Kerry. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Kerry Hoath ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` luke ` Tyler Littlefield 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Kerry Hoath wrote: > We're running Cisco classes next year for the vision impaired, www.cucat.org. > > dmz is a bad idea, anyone who forwards all ports to any box without serious > consideration for network security is asking for trouble, Anyone who puts anything on a two-way connection without serious consideration for network security is asking for trouble. But that is neither here nor there: who's to say that he hasn't considered network security? > similarly to those who run modems in bridge mode and the like. You would seem to be saying, that "If your router isn't providing security, then you have none". I'm sorry, but this is a Ciscoian mind-set if ever I heard one. If the system is secured by reasonably good firewalling software--and iptables and its higher level abstractions such as ferm certainly qualify--there is very little wrong with doing what he is doing. After all, how many routers are running Linux and Iptables these days for this very thing? And many of them Linksys, now owned by Cisco. If iptables is setup correctly, this is no different than running a server on a business class connection--you must still take steps to protect the ports of the server, regardless of whether you have a router. For smaller (T1, etc.) installations, the router is usually ISP administered, and you can not block any ports without special arrangements. Now, the value of DMZing in this arrangement is dubious for the simple fact that it seems unnecessary, but not knowing what kind of router he has, it is hard to say that there are better options available, although there should be. > It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of > solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. On that I will agree with you--I have said that before about his methodology, but we can but point this out, and then try to answer the questions presented or provide better advice; with the only other option being to say "you're doing it wrong, good luck figuring out how". I, for one, do not choose such a hard line approach. I have not always gone about things in the generally accepted way, and some times you really do have a good reason for it, and just need to know how best to do it wrong, because right is not possible. > Why these problems are an issue for the speakup list; i'll never know; > although it seems the list for any blinky linux trouble these days. There are two reasons for that I suppose. One is that most don't know of other options, and many of the more knowledgeable non-specialized types hang out here. This is a commandline related list, and most of these problems relate to things at that level. For me, for example, the only general list I know of, is the blinux-list, which at least used to be hosted by Redhat. There were reasons not to like that list, and many to like this one, including the fact that Kirk does not often complain about off topicness. Perhaps Kirk sees it as a list for users of speakup, as opposed to a list for discussions about the use of speakup. If so, then general questions would seem reasonable. JMHO. Luke ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` luke @ ` Tyler Littlefield ` luke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'll explain a bit about the router, in case it helps. First, it's a two-wire something or another. It's one of those crosses between a modem and a router, and does not do either job very well. So, my solution was this: every time the power or internet goes out, the router seems to lose all open ports, and things end up becoming a huge mess. I thought that in order to save time, I could DMZ linux, as that is the only computer that needs outside access anyway, and spend a few mnutes fighting with the router rather than trying to open up all needed ports again; iptables just handles that problem for me, and it's painless to do it that way, or less so than the router approach, anyway. Right now I treat the router as nothing but a modem, what with it's abbilities at scruing any network configuration up, I'm scared to even think it's providing my connection, but, it works. >> It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of >> solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. > > On that I will agree with you--I have said that before about his > methodology, but we can but point this out, and then try to answer the > questions presented or provide better advice; with the only other option > being to say "you're doing it wrong, good luck figuring out how". I, for > one, do not choose such a hard line approach. I have not always gone > about things in the generally accepted way, and some times you really do > have a good reason for it, and just need to know how best to do it wrong, > because right is not possible. Most of my problems branch from lack of knowing that this tool was available, etc. I try to track down a problem and work from there, in solving the problem. I'm not totally sure what the origenal comment was supposed to convey. Thanks again for all the help. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Kerry Hoath wrote: > >> We're running Cisco classes next year for the vision impaired, >> www.cucat.org. >> >> dmz is a bad idea, anyone who forwards all ports to any box without >> serious >> consideration for network security is asking for trouble, > > Anyone who puts anything on a two-way connection without serious > consideration for network security is asking for trouble. But that is > neither here nor there: who's to say that he hasn't considered network > security? > > > similarly to those who run modems in bridge mode and the like. > > You would seem to be saying, that "If your router isn't providing > security, then you have none". > I'm sorry, but this is a Ciscoian mind-set if ever I heard one. > > > If the system is secured by reasonably good firewalling software--and > iptables and its higher level abstractions such as ferm certainly > qualify--there is very little wrong with doing what he is doing. > After all, how many routers are running Linux and Iptables these days for > this very thing? And many of them Linksys, now owned by Cisco. > > If iptables is setup correctly, this is no different than running a server > on a business class connection--you must still take steps to protect the > ports of the server, regardless of whether you have a router. For > smaller (T1, etc.) installations, the router is usually ISP administered, > and you can not block any ports without special arrangements. > > Now, the value of DMZing in this arrangement is dubious for the simple > fact that it seems unnecessary, but not knowing what kind of router he > has, it is hard to say that there are better options available, although > there should be. > >> It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of >> solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. > > On that I will agree with you--I have said that before about his > methodology, but we can but point this out, and then try to answer the > questions presented or provide better advice; with the only other option > being to say "you're doing it wrong, good luck figuring out how". I, for > one, do not choose such a hard line approach. I have not always gone > about things in the generally accepted way, and some times you really do > have a good reason for it, and just need to know how best to do it wrong, > because right is not possible. > > > Why these problems are an issue for the speakup list; i'll never know; >> although it seems the list for any blinky linux trouble these days. > > There are two reasons for that I suppose. > > One is that most don't know of other options, and many of the more > knowledgeable non-specialized types hang out here. This is a commandline > related list, and most of these problems relate to things at that level. > > For me, for example, the only general list I know of, is the > blinux-list, which at least used to be hosted by Redhat. There were > reasons not to like that list, and many to like this one, including the > fact that Kirk does not often complain about off topicness. > > Perhaps Kirk sees it as a list for users of speakup, as opposed to > a list for discussions about the use of speakup. If so, then general > questions would seem reasonable. > > JMHO. > > Luke > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` luke ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: luke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > > > It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms of > > > solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route causes. [.] > Most of my problems branch from lack of knowing that this tool was available, > etc. I try to track down a problem and work from there, in solving the > problem. I'm not totally sure what the origenal comment was supposed to > convey. That rather than solving the current problem, go and find out _why_ the problem happened. Was it because of a lack of security? Secure your system, and the problem will solve itself, rather than patching over it. Was it because you're using the wrong mail software for your purposes? Rather than fighting with your current software to make it fit the circumstances, find the one which does the job better out of the box. It's the idea of building on shaky foundations. It's fine if you know you are building on shaky foundations, because then you won't build anything that you expect to last. However if you are covering cracks with planks during the construction phase, and then thinking they can support the house which they were never intended to do, problems will start to pop up when it's too late to easily and cheaply start over. That said, it's hard to know what you need when you're just starting out, and as you say, one can not always be aware of what tools are out there for a particular task. However, if you are well able to determine what it is that you are trying to achieve, you should be able to do some searching, and find out what tools are available. If 1,440 files per day are appearing in a directory, and you don't want them, you can write a cron job to do an rm through that directory on an hourly basis, and the files will be gone--poof: problem solved. You have found a solution to the problem, but haven't bothered to figure out the cause, and solve that instead. Because checking the process table and a few other things, will probably tell you that there is a program running once per minute, which creates a newly-named PID file for itself, and then doesn't clean up when it unexpectedly crashes. If you can find that program, and can find out what it's doing, and check the logs, you'll probably be able to solve the crash, the program will clean up after itself in future, and poof: problem solved. Only now several problems have been solved, including some you probably didn't know about yet (massively expanding log files, for example), all because you backtracked the cause, and solved the problem, not the symptom. In fact, thinking of this, wasn't it you with a similar situation, involving cron job problems mailing you empty messages? You wanted to stop the messages, or make them go away, and until someone suggested it, you did not think to figure out and fix the problem with the particular cron job which was prompting them. I think that was you. I will add, that key to asking for help, is providing all relevant information during the first iteration of the question. The information about your router would have eliminated or quashed the DMZ debate. What ever the question is, provide the circumstances. If it's a networking question particular to your setup, describe your network, and the devices on it, unless you really are expert enough to describe only the parts which you are 100% sure are at fault. If it's a network security question, describe your topology, and what firewalls, NATs, routers, gateways, bridges, modems, and systems are in play, and describe what ports you need open and why, if your question relates to ports. If you're asking how to mount files on machine A, which are located on machine B; and further how to edit them in-place: describe the operating systems, and network relationship, between those two machines, and explain which machine is to be the host, and which is to be the client. Re that question, I now believe I understand that the files at issue are on a Linux host, and you have a Windows client which needs to edit them. However I may have that inverted. The Linux box is outside your network, one presumes on a DHCPed public address, and the windows client is on an private Class C address behind a NAT provided by something or other. If all that is right, then SSHFS isn't going to work, unless someone has ported it to Windows. NFS would, and Samba would. If you don't trust Samba over a public network (and nor should you), then route it over a tunnel of some kind, such as a VPN (I have suggested OpenVPN for this, and a search on "samba over openvpn" returns interesting results), although if you can do it without Samba, that is probably preferable. The point is, only you know your full configuration. You must be able to figure out _why_ the way you want to do something is a good/the only idea, or if in fact there is a far simpler arrangement available. For example: can you edit your files on Linux? If so, but need to use Windows to do it for some reason, how about a Windows SSH client connection into Linux, wherein you can run nano or the like? I do not pretend to be fully aware of all of the Windows <> Linux file accessing options, so whether SSHFS has some how been ported, or NFS works for you, or a Linux fileserver would be better for your situation, or tunneling Samba is better, I can not really say. It is so much easier just to answer the question which is asked, but you run the risk of following advice which may not apply to your situation, because you did not describe your situation well enough, or did not know enough to be in that situation yet, in which case you end up hurting yourself, and thinking that those who answered gave bad advice. Try to look at every cry for help, as someone who had never heard of your situation (or you, or your network) might look at it, and anticipate the questions he would ask. "Does this line of my question lead to other questions?" In so doing, you may realize that you have a deeper issue which, if rectified, would eradicate your problem. I'm not trying to set you off on some new and unusual path (E.G. don't try this at home), but faced with the router you described, I might very well DMZ a Linux box, put a second NIC in it, and firewall my whole network through the Linux box, leaving the router as nothing but a modem, only serving as a bridge between my Linux gateway and the world. That would eliminate your file and Samba problem completely, as Samba running on your internal network, could see the private interfaces of the Windows and Linux machines, and would be blissfully untouched by the wide world of crackers just on the other side of the Linux NAT machine. Regards, Luke ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth ` luke @ ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, Thanks; I guess I wasn't aware of asking how editing files might lead to the debate of DMZ. :) I'll try to work more that way; it might help quite a bit. I think I'll tunnel samba. Currently I would just edit the files in SecureCRT, but when I use pico (Jaws or CRT, not sure which) does not track the cursur, or even read at all. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@tysdomain.com web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > >> > > It appears to me as though you are looking at your problems in terms >> > > of >> > > solutions, rather than defining the problem and solving the route >> > > causes. > [.] >> Most of my problems branch from lack of knowing that this tool was >> available, >> etc. I try to track down a problem and work from there, in solving the >> problem. I'm not totally sure what the origenal comment was supposed to >> convey. > > That rather than solving the current problem, go and find out _why_ the > problem happened. Was it because of a lack of security? Secure your > system, and the problem will solve itself, rather than patching over it. > Was it because you're using the wrong mail software for your purposes? > Rather than fighting with your current software to make it fit the > circumstances, find the one which does the job better out of the box. > > It's the idea of building on shaky foundations. It's fine if you know you > are building on shaky foundations, because then you won't build anything > that you expect to last. However if you are covering cracks with planks > during the construction phase, and then thinking they can support the > house which they were never intended to do, problems will start to pop up > when it's too late to easily and cheaply start over. > > That said, it's hard to know what you need when you're just starting out, > and as you say, one can not always be aware of what tools are out there > for a particular task. However, if you are well able to determine what it > is that you are trying to achieve, you should be able to do some > searching, and find out what tools are available. > > If 1,440 files per day are appearing in a directory, and you don't > want them, you can write a cron job to do an rm through that directory on > an hourly basis, and the files will be gone--poof: problem solved. > You have found a solution to the problem, but haven't bothered to figure > out the cause, and solve that instead. > Because checking the process table and a few other things, will probably > tell you that there is a program running once per minute, which creates > a newly-named PID file for itself, and then doesn't clean up when it > unexpectedly crashes. If you can find that program, and can find out what > it's doing, and check the logs, you'll probably be able to solve the > crash, the program will clean up after itself in future, and poof: problem > solved. Only now several problems have been solved, including some you > probably didn't know about yet (massively expanding log files, for > example), all because you backtracked the cause, and solved the problem, > not the symptom. > In fact, thinking of this, wasn't it you with a similar situation, > involving cron job problems mailing you empty messages? You wanted to > stop the messages, or make them go away, and until someone suggested it, > you did not think to figure out and fix the problem with the particular > cron job which was prompting them. I think that was you. > > I will add, that key to asking for help, is providing all relevant > information during the first iteration of the question. The information > about your router would have eliminated or quashed the DMZ debate. > > What ever the question is, provide the circumstances. If it's a > networking question particular to your setup, describe your network, and > the devices on it, unless you really are expert enough to describe only > the parts which you are 100% sure are at fault. > If it's a network security question, describe your topology, and what > firewalls, NATs, routers, gateways, bridges, modems, and systems are in > play, and describe what ports you need open and why, if your question > relates to ports. > > If you're asking how to mount files on machine A, which are located on > machine B; and further how to edit them in-place: describe the operating > systems, and network relationship, between those two machines, and explain > which machine is to be the host, and which is to be the client. > Re that question, I now believe I understand that the files at issue > are on a Linux host, and you have a Windows client which needs to edit > them. However I may have that inverted. > The Linux box is outside your network, one presumes on a DHCPed public > address, and the windows client is on an private Class C address behind a > NAT provided by something or other. > > If all that is right, then SSHFS isn't going to work, unless someone has > ported it to Windows. NFS would, and Samba would. > If you don't trust Samba over a public network (and nor should you), then > route it over a tunnel of some kind, such as a VPN (I have suggested > OpenVPN for this, and a search on "samba over openvpn" returns interesting > results), although if you can do it without Samba, that is probably > preferable. > > The point is, only you know your full configuration. You must be able to > figure out _why_ the way you want to do something is a good/the only idea, > or if in fact there is a far simpler arrangement available. > For example: can you edit your files on Linux? If so, but need to use > Windows to do it for some reason, how about a Windows SSH client > connection into Linux, wherein you can run nano or the like? > > I do not pretend to be fully aware of all of the Windows <> Linux file > accessing options, so whether SSHFS has some how been ported, or NFS works > for you, or a Linux fileserver would be better for your situation, or > tunneling Samba is better, I can not really say. > It is so much easier just to answer the question which is asked, but you > run the risk of following advice which may not apply to your situation, > because you did not describe your situation well enough, or did not know > enough to be in that situation yet, in which case you end up hurting > yourself, and thinking that those who answered gave bad advice. > > Try to look at every cry for help, as someone who had never heard of your > situation (or you, or your network) might look at it, and anticipate the > questions he would ask. "Does this line of my question lead to other > questions?" > In so doing, you may realize that you have a deeper issue which, if > rectified, would eradicate your problem. > > I'm not trying to set you off on some new and unusual path (E.G. don't try > this at home), but faced with the router you described, I might very well > DMZ a Linux box, put a second NIC in it, and firewall my whole network > through the Linux box, leaving the router as nothing but a modem, only > serving as a bridge between my Linux gateway and the world. That would > eliminate your file and Samba problem completely, as Samba running on your > internal network, could see the private interfaces of the Windows and > Linux machines, and would be blissfully untouched by the wide world of > crackers just on the other side of the Linux NAT machine. > > Regards, > > Luke > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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