From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [203.161.124.50]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD05A10A49 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBD37DA4E for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:27:35 +0900 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iphtSe4NAyv0 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:27:34 +0900 (WST) Received: from gotss1.gotss.net (203.161.101.89.static.amnet.net.au [203.161.101.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02D37DA4B for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:27:34 +0900 (WST) Received: from bouncy.gotss.net ([192.168.24.37] helo=bouncy) by gotss1.gotss.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L4xx0-0004C1-8P for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:27:34 +0900 Message-ID: <7EC7A1E0A90E44A8A598171C00A35D6D@bouncy> From: "Kerry Hoath" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <62E07DE991D442FE81BA2C11C91BF82D@tdsportable><8F9CD5F29E394DA5ADBE5E97AD03BF02@tdsportable> <6DA8BDBEA02D4D8F88E787C05C2DFDCA@tdsportable> Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:27:34 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:25:32 -0000 I respond to the first portion of your message below, the second is for the list owners and not myself to judge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: programm issues--moving files back and forth > First, I'm well aware of the problems with dmzing my system. I don't plan > to visit cisco for the blind, as any cisco site would do just fine for > teaching me what I need to know. Incidentally, until I win the lottery or > something similar happens I don't think i'll be owning a cisco router. > As for configuring the network, I believe I've got a decent grasp of what > I'm doing. Thanks for the tip though. This is a common missconception regarding Cisco training, and in fact any vendor training you may undertake. Whilst Cisco does concentrate on Cisco routers in the later modules; it does provide a good introduction to network concepts and provides a foundation of understanding on various network topics. Your assercion regarding beeing able to gain the knowledge you seek from any Cisco sight is sadly incorrect on a number of levels. Firstly; "Cisco for the blind" is not an exercise in patrinization; it is a concerted effort to render the Cisco learning institute's resources in a more accessible format, including diagram descriptions which explain what is in the pictures and diagrams as you go through the courses. Network layouts are described, and you are given access to real router hardware remotely to practice your skills on. In many cases sighted people use a simulator which is completely inaccessible to us; although work is ongoing to make these resources accessible. Learning institute has invested significant time in increasing accessability to these resources, which is more than I can say for Microsoft. Negotiations with Apple are ongoing regarding their admin courses for the blind. It is of course up to you with whom you study and for what reasons, and I am bringing the program to your attention purely to make you aware of its existance. Your lack of interest and free beer attitude has been noted. It would help the list greatly if you could actually state your problems clearly and concisely with information on what you are trying to do and what equipment you have at your disposal. "I can't edit source code in pico with ntcrt" doesn't help as we don't know what platform the source is for, what compiler is beeing used or what line endings the compiler expects. The first step in problem solving is defining your problem and communicating it to the people who may choose to help you out of the kindness of their hearts. Regards, Kerry.