configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello list,
I'm trying to figure out how I might be able to configure asterisk so that it works as a calling card.
I'm not sure how much it would cost to do this, but here's my idea:
I need to be able to use a cell for a week or so when I go up to Maryland for a camp. I was thinking of going with a quick prepaid phone, but I'm not quite sure. I might be able to borrow my grandma's phone, and I was thinking that I could just purchase a cheap 1800 number and do what I'm trying to set up.
Basically I'd call this number, put in my password and be able to dial out using asterisk and my voip.
I don't have a lot of cash to throw around on this, so your ideas here for a cheap inexpensive way to do this would be awesome.

Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though. I 
kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:46:36PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out how I might be able to configure
>> asterisk so that it works as a calling card.
>
> For what you're trying to do, you don't really need a whole
> calling card application. Just setup Asterisk as normal and
> configure dialout capabilities as part of your voicemail
> system. That way, you'll call your asterisk DID, go to
> voicemail, login and dial through. The other option is to
> configure disa such that when you call the DID, the number
> rings busy but it calls you back with a login prompt, same
> thing really but it depends on how your mobile is setup
> cost wise.
>
> Personally, I just do the voicemail thing with an 800
> number. Since Asterisk runs my home phones anyway, setting
> this up was trivial.
>
> Ok so what you want in voicemail.conf to do this:
> dialout=from-internal
>
> Replace from-internal with your internal dialing context,
> if you're using FreePBX (why wouldn't you), it's
> "from-internal".
>
> PS. cheapest did provider I've found thus far is
> www.link2voip.com. Not suitable for your local line but
> they'll originate and terminate long distance at good
> rates.
>
> Shane
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

Well, I've been interested in asterisk for a while.
Getting a pbx distro sounds cool, though. Only issues I've had is the 
install. If I can get to ssh I'm good, but I don't tend to be able to get 
distros installed by myself, which is rather irritating. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
>
> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
>
> Shane
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Alex Snow]

Most VOIP providers offer 1-800 numbers I think...check out teliax if 
you want something native-IAX2.  I'm not sure on their prices though.  
For being able to dial out from the number, check out the Disa (direct 
inward system access) application that comes with asterisk.  This allows 
you to enter an auth code and get a PBX dialtone that you can dial out 
on.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:46:36PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> hello list,
> I'm trying to figure out how I might be able to configure asterisk so that it works as a calling card.
> I'm not sure how much it would cost to do this, but here's my idea:
> I need to be able to use a cell for a week or so when I go up to Maryland for a camp. I was thinking of going with a quick prepaid phone, but I'm not quite sure. I might be able to borrow my grandma's phone, and I was thinking that I could just purchase a cheap 1800 number and do what I'm trying to set up.
> Basically I'd call this number, put in my password and be able to dial out using asterisk and my voip.
> I don't have a lot of cash to throw around on this, so your ideas here for a cheap inexpensive way to do this would be awesome.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Gregory Nowak]

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This might not apply to you, but in my experience, dialing numbers
considered toll free on land lines from your cell will still use your
plan minutes. So, if you're trying to avoid long distance charges, you
should be fine, but if you're point is to avoid using plan minutes,
then I wouldn't bother with the whole setup, unless you know that toll
free numbers really are toll free on your plan.

Greg


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:59:27AM -0700, Shane W wrote:
> For what you're trying to do, you don't really need a whole
> calling card application. Just setup Asterisk as normal and
> configure dialout capabilities as part of your voicemail
> system. That way, you'll call your asterisk DID, go to
> voicemail, login and dial through. The other option is to
> configure disa such that when you call the DID, the number
> rings busy but it calls you back with a login prompt, same
> thing really but it depends on how your mobile is setup
> cost wise.
> 
> Personally, I just do the voicemail thing with an 800
> number. Since Asterisk runs my home phones anyway, setting
> this up was trivial.
> 
> Ok so what you want in voicemail.conf to do this:
> dialout=from-internal
> 
> Replace from-internal with your internal dialing context,
> if you're using FreePBX (why wouldn't you), it's
> "from-internal".
> 
> PS. cheapest did provider I've found thus far is
> www.link2voip.com. Not suitable for your local line but
> they'll originate and terminate long distance at good
> rates.
> 
> Shane
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Brent Harding]

I would try for a cheap local number in your grandma's area from someone 
like Vitelity. Is there anyone else around in the states that will just give 
you a number like this without dealing with extra hardware without dealing 
with printing and filling out paper forms? The main technical issue I see 
with this is finding a cheap virtual server provider out there that supports 
the Zaptel stuff and/or has images like PBX In A Flash or Trixbox to just 
get it going quickly. It's probably better for education to learn it the 
manual way, but for something like this, I'd want access to a solution like 
you described hooked up to an unlimited outgoing for the US plan.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> hello list,
> I'm trying to figure out how I might be able to configure asterisk so that 
> it works as a calling card.
> I'm not sure how much it would cost to do this, but here's my idea:
> I need to be able to use a cell for a week or so when I go up to Maryland 
> for a camp. I was thinking of going with a quick prepaid phone, but I'm 
> not quite sure. I might be able to borrow my grandma's phone, and I was 
> thinking that I could just purchase a cheap 1800 number and do what I'm 
> trying to set up.
> Basically I'd call this number, put in my password and be able to dial out 
> using asterisk and my voip.
> I don't have a lot of cash to throw around on this, so your ideas here for 
> a cheap inexpensive way to do this would be awesome.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Brent Harding]

How hard is it to install these on one of those virtual dedicated servers 
you can get all over the place?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
>
> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
>
> Shane
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Brent Harding]

Well, I think the other part of the idea was to set up a local number in the 
area he will travel to or call the tollfree from a landline out there. I 
think I'd do the first one if possible as it's probably cheaper. If you had 
free incoming on a cell, you could get all calls free without ever touching 
a plan minute unless the system went down.

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


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>
> This might not apply to you, but in my experience, dialing numbers
> considered toll free on land lines from your cell will still use your
> plan minutes. So, if you're trying to avoid long distance charges, you
> should be fine, but if you're point is to avoid using plan minutes,
> then I wouldn't bother with the whole setup, unless you know that toll
> free numbers really are toll free on your plan.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:59:27AM -0700, Shane W wrote:
>> For what you're trying to do, you don't really need a whole
>> calling card application. Just setup Asterisk as normal and
>> configure dialout capabilities as part of your voicemail
>> system. That way, you'll call your asterisk DID, go to
>> voicemail, login and dial through. The other option is to
>> configure disa such that when you call the DID, the number
>> rings busy but it calls you back with a login prompt, same
>> thing really but it depends on how your mobile is setup
>> cost wise.
>>
>> Personally, I just do the voicemail thing with an 800
>> number. Since Asterisk runs my home phones anyway, setting
>> this up was trivial.
>>
>> Ok so what you want in voicemail.conf to do this:
>> dialout=from-internal
>>
>> Replace from-internal with your internal dialing context,
>> if you're using FreePBX (why wouldn't you), it's
>> "from-internal".
>>
>> PS. cheapest did provider I've found thus far is
>> www.link2voip.com. Not suitable for your local line but
>> they'll originate and terminate long distance at good
>> rates.
>>
>> Shane
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

I don't think so, but I'll look into it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@doorpi.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


>I would try for a cheap local number in your grandma's area from someone 
>like Vitelity. Is there anyone else around in the states that will just 
>give you a number like this without dealing with extra hardware without 
>dealing with printing and filling out paper forms? The main technical issue 
>I see with this is finding a cheap virtual server provider out there that 
>supports the Zaptel stuff and/or has images like PBX In A Flash or Trixbox 
>to just get it going quickly. It's probably better for education to learn 
>it the manual way, but for something like this, I'd want access to a 
>solution like you described hooked up to an unlimited outgoing for the US 
>plan.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:46 PM
> Subject: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?
>
>
>> hello list,
>> I'm trying to figure out how I might be able to configure asterisk so 
>> that it works as a calling card.
>> I'm not sure how much it would cost to do this, but here's my idea:
>> I need to be able to use a cell for a week or so when I go up to Maryland 
>> for a camp. I was thinking of going with a quick prepaid phone, but I'm 
>> not quite sure. I might be able to borrow my grandma's phone, and I was 
>> thinking that I could just purchase a cheap 1800 number and do what I'm 
>> trying to set up.
>> Basically I'd call this number, put in my password and be able to dial 
>> out using asterisk and my voip.
>> I don't have a lot of cash to throw around on this, so your ideas here 
>> for a cheap inexpensive way to do this would be awesome.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Kerry Hoath]

Actually pbxinaflash is cool
http://www.pbxinaflash.net/
it is centos but can be installed using serial console and null modem.
Or you can do auto-install if you are happy to oose contents of hard drive.
Regards, Kerry.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
>
> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
>
> Shane
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi. I have a friend who uses Callcentric (http://www.callcentric.com), for
incoming and outgoing calls. As far as I know they charge $19.95 for unlimited
calling to the U.S and Canada, and $5.95 for an incoming number only. If you
decide to signup with them though and want to still use Asterisk, you'll have to
use 1.4, since 1.6 still has some interoperability issues. Hth.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:45:41AM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> Actually pbxinaflash is cool
> http://www.pbxinaflash.net/
> it is centos but can be installed using serial console and null modem.
> Or you can do auto-install if you are happy to oose contents of hard drive.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:04 AM
> Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?
>
>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
>>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
>>
>> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
>> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
>> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
>> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
>> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
>> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
>>
>> Shane
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

werd, I think 1.4 has more docs anyway, but that's pretty cheap. $25/m for 
phone, anyway.
I paid $20 for magic jack, but that was for the year; it sorta works half 
the time and doesn't the other half. It's served it's purpose, all be it 
half-way, and it was a decent writeoff; I've had fun breaking it. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


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> Hash: SHA512
>
> Hi. I have a friend who uses Callcentric (http://www.callcentric.com), for
> incoming and outgoing calls. As far as I know they charge $19.95 for 
> unlimited
> calling to the U.S and Canada, and $5.95 for an incoming number only. If 
> you
> decide to signup with them though and want to still use Asterisk, you'll 
> have to
> use 1.4, since 1.6 still has some interoperability issues. Hth.
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:45:41AM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>> Actually pbxinaflash is cool
>> http://www.pbxinaflash.net/
>> it is centos but can be installed using serial console and null modem.
>> Or you can do auto-install if you are happy to oose contents of hard 
>> drive.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
>> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research 
>>>> though.
>>>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
>>>
>>> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
>>> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
>>> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
>>> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
>>> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
>>> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
>>>
>>> Shane
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi all,

   It looks like there are a number of people here who are using or are interested in voip.
   Asterisk has a steep learning curve and I wouldn't recommend starting into it if you are only going to use it for a short time. ON the other hand, if you can justify the time to learn it, using straight asterisk 1.4/1.6 is very accessible for us bliind users. All configs are text files. Once you get a handle on it, setting up new phones/lines is very quick and easy. If you are using Debian, there is an asterisk apt package that does quite nicely fo rthe base asterisk installation.
   I have not looked at the numerous  graphical configuration systems (like pbxinaflash or trixbox). Perhaps some of you who have used some of these could comment on their accessibility using commandline tools/speakup.
   How many people here have asterisk (or other voip server) running that we could maybe set up a "blinknet" based on iax2 (or even sip)?

   Let's all thank Kirk for his liberality in not restricting postings here to just speakup-related topics!

   --terry

-- 
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Phone:	705-812-4949
SIP: 5000@cudney.homeip.net
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I use the apt package, though I wouldn't do that on a production server; 
it's dependencies make no sense at all.
It wants xserver for asterisk, weird. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry D. Cudney" <terry.cudney@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> Hi all,
>
>   It looks like there are a number of people here who are using or are 
> interested in voip.
>   Asterisk has a steep learning curve and I wouldn't recommend starting 
> into it if you are only going to use it for a short time. ON the other 
> hand, if you can justify the time to learn it, using straight asterisk 
> 1.4/1.6 is very accessible for us bliind users. All configs are text 
> files. Once you get a handle on it, setting up new phones/lines is very 
> quick and easy. If you are using Debian, there is an asterisk apt package 
> that does quite nicely fo rthe base asterisk installation.
>   I have not looked at the numerous  graphical configuration systems (like 
> pbxinaflash or trixbox). Perhaps some of you who have used some of these 
> could comment on their accessibility using commandline tools/speakup.
>   How many people here have asterisk (or other voip server) running that 
> we could maybe set up a "blinknet" based on iax2 (or even sip)?
>
>   Let's all thank Kirk for his liberality in not restricting postings here 
> to just speakup-related topics!
>
>   --terry
>
> -- 
> Name: Terry D. Cudney
> Phone: 705-812-4949
> SIP: 5000@cudney.homeip.net
> E-mail: terry@octothorp.org
>
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
>
> Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Alex Snow]

I wonder what unlimitted means in this case? I've heard a lot of stories 
about people finding out later that "unlimitted" means 1,000 
minutes/month, and they end up getting in trouble with the provider when 
they go over.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:07:22AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Hi. I have a friend who uses Callcentric (http://www.callcentric.com), for
> incoming and outgoing calls. As far as I know they charge $19.95 for unlimited
> calling to the U.S and Canada, and $5.95 for an incoming number only. If you
> decide to signup with them though and want to still use Asterisk, you'll have to
> use 1.4, since 1.6 still has some interoperability issues. Hth.
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:45:41AM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> > Actually pbxinaflash is cool
> > http://www.pbxinaflash.net/
> > it is centos but can be installed using serial console and null modem.
> > Or you can do auto-install if you are happy to oose contents of hard drive.
> > Regards, Kerry.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> >>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
> >>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
> >>
> >> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
> >> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
> >> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
> >> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
> >> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
> >> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
> >>
> >> Shane
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[John covici]

Freepbx is pretty good, lynx won't work with it, but for the novice
user and even the more advanced user, its quite helpful for setting up
asterisk and you can still customize config files if you do it in the
right place.

on Friday 07/17/2009 Terry D. Cudney(terry.cudney@gmail.com) wrote
 > Hi all,
 > 
 >    It looks like there are a number of people here who are using or are interested in voip.
 >    Asterisk has a steep learning curve and I wouldn't recommend starting into it if you are only going to use it for a short time. ON the other hand, if you can justify the time to learn it, using straight asterisk 1.4/1.6 is very accessible for us bliind users. All configs are text files. Once you get a handle on it, setting up new phones/lines is very quick and easy. If you are using Debian, there is an asterisk apt package that does quite nicely fo rthe base asterisk installation.
 >    I have not looked at the numerous  graphical configuration systems (like pbxinaflash or trixbox). Perhaps some of you who have used some of these could comment on their accessibility using commandline tools/speakup.
 >    How many people here have asterisk (or other voip server) running that we could maybe set up a "blinknet" based on iax2 (or even sip)?
 > 
 >    Let's all thank Kirk for his liberality in not restricting postings here to just speakup-related topics!
 > 
 >    --terry
 > 
 > -- 
 > Name:	Terry D. Cudney
 > Phone:	705-812-4949
 > SIP: 5000@cudney.homeip.net
 > E-mail:	terry@octothorp.org
 > 
 > Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
 > having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
 > 
 > Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
 > _______________________________________________
 > Speakup mailing list
 > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
 > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Tyler Littlefield]

weird, I thought it was xserver. I remember freaking out when it wanted it, 
anyway.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?


> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 08:53:26AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> I use the apt package, though I wouldn't do that on a production server;
> I would. They've spent a lot of time getting the install
>> right.
>
>> it's dependencies make no sense at all.
>> It wants xserver for asterisk, weird. :)
>
> Hmm, not here it doesn't:
>
> continuum:~# apt-cache show asterisk|grep ^Depends: |head
> -1
> Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.18), libc-client2007b, libc6
> - (>= 2.3.4), libcap2 (>= 2.10), libcurl3 (>= 7.16.2-1),
> - libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libglib2.0-0
> - (>= 2.12.0), libgmime-2.0-2a, libgsm1 (>= 1.0.12),
> - libiksemel3, libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), liblua5.1-0,
> - libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), libnewt0.52, libogg0 (>=
> - 1.0rc3), libopenais2 (>= 0.83), libopenh323-1.18.0 (>=
> - 1.18.0~) | libopenh323-1.18.0-develop (>= 1.18.0~),
> - libosptk3, libpopt0 (>= 1.14), libpq5 (>= 8.3~beta1),
> - libpri1.4, libpt-1.10.10 (>= 1.10.10~),
> - libradiusclient-ng2, libsasl2-2, libsdl1.2debian (>=
> - 1.2.10-1), libsnmp15 (>= 5.4.1~dfsg), libspeex1 (>=
> - 1.2~beta3-1), libspeexdsp1 (>= 1.2~beta3.2-1), libsqlite0
> - (>= 2.8.17), libss7-1 (>= 1.0), libssl0.9.8 (>=
> - 0.9.8f-5), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libsybdb5 (>= 0.63),
> - libtonezone2.0 (>= 1:2.2.0~rc3), libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2),
> - libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.2), libvpb0 (>= 4.2.22), libx11-6,
> - unixodbc (>= 2.2.11-1), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4),
> - asterisk-config (= 1:1.6.1.0~dfsg-1) |
> - asterisk-config-custom, adduser, asterisk-sounds-main,
> - dahdi
>
> Lots of deps there for sure but I don't have xserver
> installed.
>
> S
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi Alex. I can ask about that, but afaik unlimited really means unlimited in
this case.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:15:50AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> I wonder what unlimitted means in this case? I've heard a lot of stories 
> about people finding out later that "unlimitted" means 1,000 
> minutes/month, and they end up getting in trouble with the provider when 
> they go over.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:07:22AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA512
> > 
> > Hi. I have a friend who uses Callcentric (http://www.callcentric.com), for
> > incoming and outgoing calls. As far as I know they charge $19.95 for unlimited
> > calling to the U.S and Canada, and $5.95 for an incoming number only. If you
> > decide to signup with them though and want to still use Asterisk, you'll have to
> > use 1.4, since 1.6 still has some interoperability issues. Hth.
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:45:41AM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> > > Actually pbxinaflash is cool
> > > http://www.pbxinaflash.net/
> > > it is centos but can be installed using serial console and null modem.
> > > Or you can do auto-install if you are happy to oose contents of hard drive.
> > > Regards, Kerry.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane W" <shane-speakup@csy.ca>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:01:40PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> > >>> ok, you totally lost me with some of that. I'll do some research though.
> > >>> I kind of understand some asterisk, but not much of it
> > >>
> > >> It can be a bit of a beast to setup actually, especially if
> > >> you don't have a dedicated box. If you do, you could just
> > >> install a distribution like Elastix and configure away via
> > >> the web but integrating Asterisk/FreePBX into an existing
> > >> system can be a pain. Setting up a PBX, probably not
> > >> something I'd do for a one-off trip.
> > >>
> > >> Shane
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Speakup mailing list
> > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >>
> > >
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Re: configuring asterisk:cheap phone?

[Bill Cox]

Hi, Terry.

I have set up Asterisk systems at several locations.  I generally
still use Trixbox, though I'll probably switch soon to PBX in a Flash
or a similar competing system.  Fonality, the company that bought
Trixbox, is acting in several essentially evil ways, so the community
is moving away from them.

In general, I recommend installing Asterisk on a dedicated system with
one of the Asterisk distros, like Trixbox.  It will save you many
hours of headaches in the long run.  For a user trying to save a few
bucks while at grandma's house, I'd say stay away from Asterisk and
buy a cheap phone card.

The last time I tried PBX in a Flash, around December, it was still
unstable relative to Trixbox.  I had a lot of trouble getting it to
work how I wanted.  However, that's changing fast, and may already be
out-of-date information.

At home, I use a Trixbox system, which I integrated tightly with the
Asterisk system I built for work.  It's kind of cool.  If anyone calls
my work number, it rings a VoIP phone at work, a VoIP business phone
at home, and every wireless phone in the house.  My wife hates it, but
I find it very convenient.  For home service, I use VoIP Street, and
can attest that they have outstanding voice quality.  However, since
my wife's business went under due to the rotten economy, she talks on
the phone all the time!  I'd save money just paying $25/month to
Vonage.

Bill

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Terry D. Cudney<terry.cudney@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   It looks like there are a number of people here who are using or are interested in voip.
>   Asterisk has a steep learning curve and I wouldn't recommend starting into it if you are only going to use it for a short time. ON the other hand, if you can justify the time to learn it, using straight asterisk 1.4/1.6 is very accessible for us bliind users. All configs are text files. Once you get a handle on it, setting up new phones/lines is very quick and easy. If you are using Debian, there is an asterisk apt package that does quite nicely fo rthe base asterisk installation.
>   I have not looked at the numerous  graphical configuration systems (like pbxinaflash or trixbox). Perhaps some of you who have used some of these could comment on their accessibility using commandline tools/speakup.
>   How many people here have asterisk (or other voip server) running that we could maybe set up a "blinknet" based on iax2 (or even sip)?
>
>   Let's all thank Kirk for his liberality in not restricting postings here to just speakup-related topics!
>
>   --terry
>
> --
> Name:   Terry D. Cudney
> Phone:  705-812-4949
> SIP: 5000@cudney.homeip.net
> E-mail: terry@octothorp.org
>
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
>
> Tired of technology? Check this out: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
> _______________________________________________
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