screens and folders

screens and folders

[Chris Zenchenko]

Two questions.
Is there a way to review info from a long output dump without requesting it
again with a pipe to more or something similar?
For example there are long menus that fill more than a single screen and I
can't find a way to get speak-up to go past the top of the last screen.
In those cases you can't use a pipe because you are not in control of the
output.

Second question.
Is there an easy way to change in and out of folders or access files with
long or complicated names?
My memory ain't what it was.
I'm constantly wanting to get in to a folder but after doing an ls command
and reading carefully the insane names people use for names cd to nowhere
because I typed the name wrong.
Same for editing. There has to be some easy way to do this!
I get that files and folders should have names that tell you as much as
possible but the mix of letters and symbols along with the length is
straining what little brain power I have left.

Re: screens and folders

[Rob]

Chris Zenchenko <wb9rsq@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an easy way to change in and out of folders or access files with
long or complicated names?

Sure, use speakup's copy/paste function.
Bring the speakup cursor to the first character of the file name or pathname, press numpad slash. Then navigate to the end of the string and press slash again. Then you can do Cd, space, then speakup+numpad slash to paste.
That's for the desktop layout. I don't know about the laptop one.

Re: screens and folders

[Gregory Nowak]

On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 10:16:32AM -0500, Rob wrote:
> Sure, use speakup's copy/paste function.

Another way is to use a web browser such as lynx to name one example
as a file manager. I know there are as well dedicated file managers such as
midnight commander. I believe emacs also has a mode to manage files
and directories, but I haven't used either of those options myself.

Greg


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Re: screens and folders

[Tom Fowle]

Chris,
I've seen references to alt-pageup supposedly reviewing the command line
screen buffer, but only found it work rarely.

As for typing long names, tab completion helps if you get the first few
letters correct. 

And there is the speakup clip board which I couldn't live without

Tom Fowle

On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 10:12:58AM -0500, Chris Zenchenko wrote:
> Two questions.
> Is there a way to review info from a long output dump without requesting it
> again with a pipe to more or something similar?
> For example there are long menus that fill more than a single screen and I
> can't find a way to get speak-up to go past the top of the last screen.
> In those cases you can't use a pipe because you are not in control of the
> output.
> 
> Second question.
> Is there an easy way to change in and out of folders or access files with
> long or complicated names?
> My memory ain't what it was.
> I'm constantly wanting to get in to a folder but after doing an ls command
> and reading carefully the insane names people use for names cd to nowhere
> because I typed the name wrong.
> Same for editing. There has to be some easy way to do this!
> I get that files and folders should have names that tell you as much as
> possible but the mix of letters and symbols along with the length is
> straining what little brain power I have left.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: screens and folders

[Tony Baechler]

On 5/4/2017 8:12 AM, Chris Zenchenko wrote:
> Is there a way to review info from a long output dump without requesting it
> again with a pipe to more or something similar?

Scrollback support has been discussed, but the short answer is not that I'm 
aware. That would be helpful. Samuel posted about this, but I think the 
priority is getting the current kernel patches pushed first. You could try 
David's Speakup mods, but I couldn't get them to compile on 4.6.4 and you 
would have to compile your own kernel.

> Is there an easy way to change in and out of folders or access files with
> long or complicated names?


I suggest a file manager. Lynx the cat has this ability, but I like Ranger. 
It's in Debian and most major distros. There is also ncdu. While it's 
actually not a file manager, it does let you change folders and perform 
basic tasks. There are many other options. Search the list archives for a 
long discussion on this. I would start with Ranger first.

Also, I assume you know about tab completion? If you enter part of a file or 
folder name and press Tab, your shell should either complete the name or 
beep, indicating there is more than one match. Pressing Tab a second time 
gives you the list of matches.