From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 918691EFF08; Thu, 4 May 2017 11:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8C371EFE6C for ; Thu, 4 May 2017 11:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id e65so13734168ita.1 for ; Thu, 04 May 2017 08:13:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index :content-language:disposition-notification-to; bh=fgMEvZEx4x7S/eZawzrDLMG3bfOg+2F8CrGpPTBZfJM=; b=tN8kJX8NnR4jI1wT0f/4a3VXmQuIJfv+zhdCpVwBWrGslqREMrJKlj2SVog8hoNYJL VOC/rNMhTeFnuLao2ZvLdw+aiPtwUbHs9IeY64EhQFTEzLCyYbI+luR38Ig/16I2oITe JCwEjJx9iG8Xdzu4ADcbAVRVzJ8gvdMV+kol8K6oKdelTVgNbpkSOP+Ej7d1pXR2Run2 GV2Io3b1gndX2XTDNi0dMvVzpOl8woU0/BASqMPltA2ckvADxoVnJ798hmv37NlOUKCf Blh+5Aa4knCQUtsw+exqAXWBUp8vL+b7lurqR7Uso7DJEoQc26uYnA/LmZ102XmqGehq Gtvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language:disposition-notification-to; bh=fgMEvZEx4x7S/eZawzrDLMG3bfOg+2F8CrGpPTBZfJM=; b=PejD6AsUi1yohHpRkhH/7+SMYCG8vmjxCWyjRe3cj+IAXQ9I7/gKfeZyt9UTs79wzK i2AKokaw+bskykRJTwhU72xThPvzWIUmcaP2n5ef0lpYTuPz5U3jJgGgsYHp/nRNnqq/ t/q7YTyTWiKWcFXAGACfylR/MPhprFPe9th9BhSen7jwvCAJb0gAcEkv8Sc0CwrvII/R ZfrEeGGECqWU8L6PVgte3TBwQJKVGOZEFp761shDL79lskS9h5xFxft6J0XoxZrxCtFr uF4JeqIKTHr4gzJ20Q7MKQlWDJ9N0+KaV2BEXs8nSe7O2SqY/eU9klonH8FWxWM2uOz5 O9dg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6VvLALRRP/FUglMKBYcalQlIJZuUZSOYbIZT1/eUBGDY98wTgc iNMiqs3w2oKdb6SH X-Received: by 10.36.78.200 with SMTP id r191mr2692049ita.84.1493910780396; Thu, 04 May 2017 08:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP48RT2BB ([168.236.45.62]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i184sm10626622ioi.50.2017.05.04.08.12.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 04 May 2017 08:12:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris Zenchenko" To: Subject: screens and folders Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 10:12:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001001d2c4e8$eaa3b620$bfeb2260$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-index: AdLE5/f1VkZ735k8TwWCPdM3rm11tA== Content-language: en-us X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 15:13:06 -0000 Two questions. Is there a way to review info from a long output dump without requesting it again with a pipe to more or something similar? For example there are long menus that fill more than a single screen and I can't find a way to get speak-up to go past the top of the last screen. In those cases you can't use a pipe because you are not in control of the output. Second question. Is there an easy way to change in and out of folders or access files with long or complicated names? My memory ain't what it was. I'm constantly wanting to get in to a folder but after doing an ls command and reading carefully the insane names people use for names cd to nowhere because I typed the name wrong. Same for editing. There has to be some easy way to do this! I get that files and folders should have names that tell you as much as possible but the mix of letters and symbols along with the length is straining what little brain power I have left.