* Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine @ Hunter Hoke ` Zachary Kline ` Chris Brannon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup Hello. I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6. I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup started after the installation. Any help is appreciated. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine Hunter Hoke @ ` Zachary Kline ` Hunter Hoke ` Chris Brannon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, You will find the list is quite active, but I'm afraid I don't have nearly enough information to begin helping you. Which speech system did you use? Was it hardware or software? Did you use the installation speech provided with espeak? Without this kind of basic information I can be absolutely no help. Please elaborate, Zack. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello. > I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need > assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6. > I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup > started after the installation. > Any help is appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Zachary Kline @ ` Hunter Hoke ` Rob [not found] ` <20161008.195808.733.36@192.168.1.117> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak. On 10/8/16, Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> wrote: > Hello, > You will find the list is quite active, but I'm afraid I don't have nearly > enough information to begin helping you. Which speech system did you use? > Was it hardware or software? Did you use the installation speech provided > with espeak? > Without this kind of basic information I can be absolutely no help. > Please elaborate, > Zack. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello. >> I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need >> assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6. >> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup >> started after the installation. >> Any help is appreciated. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` Rob [not found] ` <20161008.195808.733.36@192.168.1.117> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Rob @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak. Do other sounds work? Are the speakup and speakup_soft modules loaded? Are you sure the virtual machine has not rebootred into the installation media? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
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* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine [not found] ` <20161008.195808.733.36@192.168.1.117> @ ` Hunter Hoke ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yes, other sounds work. I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive. On 10/8/16, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote: > Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak. > > Do other sounds work? > Are the > speakup > and > speakup_soft > modules loaded? > Are you sure the virtual machine has not rebootred into the installation > media? > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Hunter Hoke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If you installed a graphical desktop, you're probably being dropped into the desktop when you boot. If this is the case, and you're logging into the desktop, pulseaudio may not be allowing espeakup to speak, because espeakup wants to use alsa directly. When your virtual machine boots, do a ctrl+alt+f1 to go to the first text console. Does speakup speak at that point if you try to use speakup's review commands? To find out which modules are loaded, you'd use the lsmod command. Something like: lsmod >lsmod.txt at the shell prompt should dump a list of the currently loaded modules into lsmod.txt. Do you have a way to move that file from the virtual machine to the host? Something like this should be possible under virtualbox for example with a shared folder. Greg On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:08:12PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote: > Yes, other sounds work. > I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, > but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because > I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive. > -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Hunter Hoke 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. No, I didn't install a desktop environment. I had planned on installing VmWare tools after the install, but that's impossible with no speech. On 10/9/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > If you installed a graphical desktop, you're probably being dropped > into the desktop when you boot. If this is the case, and you're > logging into the desktop, pulseaudio may not be allowing espeakup to > speak, because espeakup wants to use alsa directly. When your virtual > machine boots, do a ctrl+alt+f1 to go to the first text console. Does > speakup speak at that point if you try to use speakup's review > commands? > > To find out which modules are loaded, you'd use the lsmod > command. Something like: > > lsmod >lsmod.txt > > at the shell prompt should dump a list of the currently loaded modules > into lsmod.txt. Do you have a way to move that file from the virtual > machine to the host? Something like this should be possible under > virtualbox for example with a shared folder. > > Greg > > > On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:08:12PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote: >> Yes, other sounds work. >> I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, >> but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because >> I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive. > > >> > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn.net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > contacts. > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine Hunter Hoke ` Zachary Kline @ ` Chris Brannon ` Hunter Hoke 1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Chris Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes: > I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup > started after the installation. Is the speakup_soft module loaded? lsmod |grep speakup Is espeakup running? ps -e |grep espeakup -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Chris Brannon @ ` Hunter Hoke ` John G. Heim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, I have no way of finding out. I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak from the command line and there was no speech output. On 10/9/16, Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote: > Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes: > >> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup >> started after the installation. > > Is the speakup_soft module loaded? > lsmod |grep speakup > Is espeakup running? > ps -e |grep espeakup > > -- Chris > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` John G. Heim ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: John G. Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a screenshot and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled text but you probably will be able to make it out. vboxmanage controlvm $VMNAME screenshotpng $PNGFILE tesseract $PNGFILE stdout On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: > If the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, I have no way of > finding out. > I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak > from the command line and there was no speech output. > > On 10/9/16, Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote: >> Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup >>> started after the installation. >> Is the speakup_soft module loaded? >> lsmod |grep speakup >> Is espeakup running? >> ps -e |grep espeakup >> >> -- Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` John G. Heim @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Hunter Hoke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 03:53:17PM -0500, John G. Heim wrote: > What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a > screenshot and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled > text but you probably will be able to make it out. I believe the OP mentioned earlier in this thread that vmware was being used. > On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: > >I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak > >from the command line and there was no speech output. If all you did is type espeak <enter>, then that's no surprise, since you need to give espeak something to say for it to produce output. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Hunter Hoke ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. On 10/30/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 03:53:17PM -0500, John G. Heim wrote: >> What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a >> screenshot and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled >> text but you probably will be able to make it out. > > I believe the OP mentioned earlier in this thread that vmware was > being used. > >> On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: >> >I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak >> >from the command line and there was no speech output. > > If all you did is type espeak <enter>, then that's no surprise, since > you need to give espeak something to say for it to produce output. > > Greg > > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn.net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > contacts. > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Hunter Hoke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: > I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the problem could be. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Hunter Hoke ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I used the installation speech with espeak. On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. > > Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, > try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with > pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the > problem could be. > > Greg > > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn.net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > contacts. > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Hunter Hoke 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: > I used the installation speech with espeak. Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left intact below. Greg > > On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: > >> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. > > > > Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, > > try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with > > pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the > > problem could be. > > > > Greg > > > > > > -- > > web site: http://www.gregn.net > > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > > contacts. > > > > -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Hunter Hoke ` Gregory Nowak ` jeremy 0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Hunter Hoke @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened. On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >> I used the installation speech with espeak. > > Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left > intact below. > > Greg > > >> >> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >> >> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. >> > >> > Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, >> > try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with >> > pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the >> > problem could be. >> > >> > Greg >> > >> > >> > -- >> > web site: http://www.gregn.net >> > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc >> > skype: gregn1 >> > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >> > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your >> > contacts. >> > >> > -- >> > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > web site: http://www.gregn.net > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > contacts. > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke @ ` Gregory Nowak ` jeremy 1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 02:56:42PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote: > Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened. Then I'm not sure what the problem is, and am currently out of ideas to solve it. Maybe someone else will be able to help you. Have you considered creating a new guest, and trying the install again to see if you get the same results? Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Hunter Hoke ` Gregory Nowak @ ` jeremy ` John Covici 1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: jeremy @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are actually able to boot into the new system, once you've finished up with the install. I have absolutely no clue why, but the last time I tried a Debian 8 install inside vmware, using the normal text installer from the net install cd, I never could get it to boot. I don't have enough site to be able to see what's actually on the screen, but it certainly wasn't getting beyond just a second or two after powering on the vm. With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so I never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving me issues with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had no speech on starting it up and why none of your commands seem to work. haha Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your issue, but I was trying it on the latest VMWare player with windows7 as the host. On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: > Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened. > > On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >>> I used the installation speech with espeak. >> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left >> intact below. >> >> Greg >> >> >>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. >>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, >>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with >>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the >>>> problem could be. >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net >>>> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc >>>> skype: gregn1 >>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your >>>> contacts. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> -- >> web site: http://www.gregn.net >> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc >> skype: gregn1 >> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your >> contacts. >> >> -- >> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` jeremy @ ` John Covici ` jeremy 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: John Covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How are you booting the machine and can you shell into it from another computer? Once you shell in, it will be much easier to figure out what is going wrong. On Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:15:38 -0500, jeremy wrote: > > Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are > actually able to boot into the new system, once you've finished > up with the install. I have absolutely no clue why, but the last > time I tried a Debian 8 install inside vmware, using the normal > text installer from the net install cd, I never could get it to > boot. I don't have enough site to be able to see what's actually > on the screen, but it certainly wasn't getting beyond just a > second or two after powering on the vm. > > With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so > I never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving > me issues with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had > no speech on starting it up and why none of your commands seem to > work. haha > Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your > issue, but I was trying it on the latest VMWare player with > windows7 as the host. > > On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: > > Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened. > > > > On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: > >>> I used the installation speech with espeak. > >> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left > >> intact below. > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> > >>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: > >>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: > >>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. > >>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, > >>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with > >>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the > >>>> problem could be. > >>>> > >>>> Greg > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net > >>>> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > >>>> skype: gregn1 > >>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > >>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > >>>> contacts. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Speakup mailing list > >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> -- > >> web site: http://www.gregn.net > >> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > >> skype: gregn1 > >> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > >> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your > >> contacts. > >> > >> -- > >> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` John Covici @ ` jeremy ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: jeremy @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I could see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was never actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to something that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards, have a tiny bit of text in the top left corner that would never change. Typically, on any other Linux installation inside VMWare, once the grub menu displays and you make a selection, you'd see a great deal of text scroll on the display. This scrolling would normally take at least a few seconds and then either stop or clear out when it reaches the end, leaving you with the login area where you enter your username and password. I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player and everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was something caused by VMWare itself. I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is the same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain why there's no speech. :) Take care. On 11/7/2016 3:08 PM, John Covici wrote: > How are you booting the machine and can you shell into it from another > computer? Once you shell in, it will be much easier to figure out > what is going wrong. > > On Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:15:38 -0500, > jeremy wrote: >> Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are >> actually able to boot into the new system, once you've finished >> up with the install. I have absolutely no clue why, but the last >> time I tried a Debian 8 install inside vmware, using the normal >> text installer from the net install cd, I never could get it to >> boot. I don't have enough site to be able to see what's actually >> on the screen, but it certainly wasn't getting beyond just a >> second or two after powering on the vm. >> >> With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so >> I never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving >> me issues with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had >> no speech on starting it up and why none of your commands seem to >> work. haha >> Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your >> issue, but I was trying it on the latest VMWare player with >> windows7 as the host. >> >> On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote: >>> Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened. >>> >>> On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: >>>> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >>>>> I used the installation speech with espeak. >>>> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left >>>> intact below. >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote: >>>>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened. >>>>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user, >>>>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with >>>>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the >>>>>> problem could be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Greg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net >>>>>> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc >>>>>> skype: gregn1 >>>>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >>>>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your >>>>>> contacts. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> -- >>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net >>>> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc >>>> skype: gregn1 >>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your >>>> contacts. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` jeremy @ ` Gregory Nowak ` jeremy 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The OP was asked earlier in the thread if sounds besides espeak could be played/heard, and the answer was yes. So, I for one assumed until this point that whatever the issue is, it isn't an install that doesn't boot. Greg On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 01:21:18PM -0600, jeremy wrote: > Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the > shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all > being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I > could see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was > never actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to > something that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards, > have a tiny bit of text in the top left corner that would never > change. Typically, on any other Linux installation inside VMWare, > once the grub menu displays and you make a selection, you'd see a > great deal of text scroll on the display. This scrolling would > normally take at least a few seconds and then either stop or clear > out when it reaches the end, leaving you with the login area where > you enter your username and password. > I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player > and everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was > something caused by VMWare itself. > I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is > the same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain > why there's no speech. :) > Take care. -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine ` Gregory Nowak @ ` jeremy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: jeremy @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Now that I'm reading back through the archives, I do see where he said that sound was working, however, it still isn't clear on exactly what sound that may be. I'm fairly certain that he'd specify if it were a pc speaker type sound, something that would play, even without the vm ever booting, just as it did on mine, but if it's any other type of sound, then that's more than what I had on mine and I'm incorrect. I'd of guessed that if he were able to somehow access the machine through other means, SSH or whatever and get it to play a sound, he'd of also posted any errors he came across with speakup and it's parts. Without knowing for sure that he's actually able to fully boot it and reach a console, it's hard to say. Depending on how the vm is configured, I'd probably think it worth while to see if the installation can get an address through DHCP on the router, but unless he has some way to verify how far he's making it after he powers on the vm, I don't know. That's about the time I'd be asking someone to read the screen to me to get an error so I could post it here on this wonderful list. :) Take care. Gregory Nowak wrote: > The OP was asked earlier in the thread if sounds besides espeak could > be played/heard, and the answer was yes. So, I for one assumed until > this point that whatever the issue is, it isn't an install that > doesn't boot. > > Greg > > > On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 01:21:18PM -0600, jeremy wrote: >> Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the >> shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all >> being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I >> could see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was >> never actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to >> something that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards, >> have a tiny bit of text in the top left corner that would never >> change. Typically, on any other Linux installation inside VMWare, >> once the grub menu displays and you make a selection, you'd see a >> great deal of text scroll on the display. This scrolling would >> normally take at least a few seconds and then either stop or clear >> out when it reaches the end, leaving you with the login area where >> you enter your username and password. >> I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player >> and everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was >> something caused by VMWare itself. >> I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is >> the same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain >> why there's no speech. :) >> Take care. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
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