Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

Hello.
I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need
assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6.
I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
started after the installation.
Any help is appreciated.

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Zachary Kline]

Hello,
You will find the list is quite active, but I'm afraid I don't have nearly enough information to begin helping you. Which speech system did you use? Was it hardware or software? Did you use the installation speech provided with espeak? 
Without this kind of basic information I can be absolutely no help.
Please elaborate,
Zack.

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> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need
> assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6.
> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
> started after the installation.
> Any help is appreciated.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak.

On 10/8/16, Zachary Kline <zkline@speedpost.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> You will find the list is quite active, but I'm afraid I don't have nearly
> enough information to begin helping you. Which speech system did you use?
> Was it hardware or software? Did you use the installation speech provided
> with espeak?
> Without this kind of basic information I can be absolutely no help.
> Please elaborate,
> Zack.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I don't know how active this mailing list is nowadays, but I need
>> assistance with a Speakup issue on Debian 8.6.
>> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
>> started after the installation.
>> Any help is appreciated.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Rob]

Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak.

Do other sounds work?
Are the
speakup
and
speakup_soft
modules loaded?
Are you sure the virtual machine has not rebootred into the installation media?

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

Yes, other sounds work.
I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded,
but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because
I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive.

On 10/8/16, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I used the installation speech provided with Espeak.
>
> Do other sounds work?
> Are the
> speakup
> and
> speakup_soft
> modules loaded?
> Are you sure the virtual machine has not rebootred into the installation
> media?
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

If you installed a graphical desktop, you're probably being dropped
into the desktop when you boot. If this is the case, and you're
logging into the desktop, pulseaudio may not be allowing espeakup to
speak, because espeakup wants to use alsa directly. When your virtual
machine boots, do a ctrl+alt+f1 to go to the first text console. Does
speakup speak at that point if you try to use speakup's review
commands?

To find out which modules are loaded, you'd use the lsmod
command. Something like:

lsmod >lsmod.txt

at the shell prompt should dump a list of the currently loaded modules
into lsmod.txt. Do you have a way to move that file from the virtual
machine to the host? Something like this should be possible under
virtualbox for example with a shared folder.

Greg


On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:08:12PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> Yes, other sounds work.
> I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded,
> but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because
> I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive.


> 

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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

No, I didn't install a desktop environment.
I had planned on installing VmWare tools after the install, but that's
impossible with no speech.


On 10/9/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> If you installed a graphical desktop, you're probably being dropped
> into the desktop when you boot. If this is the case, and you're
> logging into the desktop, pulseaudio may not be allowing espeakup to
> speak, because espeakup wants to use alsa directly. When your virtual
> machine boots, do a ctrl+alt+f1 to go to the first text console. Does
> speakup speak at that point if you try to use speakup's review
> commands?
>
> To find out which modules are loaded, you'd use the lsmod
> command. Something like:
>
> lsmod >lsmod.txt
>
> at the shell prompt should dump a list of the currently loaded modules
> into lsmod.txt. Do you have a way to move that file from the virtual
> machine to the host? Something like this should be possible under
> virtualbox for example with a shared folder.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:08:12PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>> Yes, other sounds work.
>> I'm not sure whether the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded,
>> but I know the VM hasn't rebooted into the installation media because
>> I checked the status of the virtual cd/dvd drive.
>
>
>>
>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Chris Brannon]

Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes:

> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
> started after the installation.

Is the speakup_soft module loaded?
lsmod |grep speakup
Is espeakup running?
ps -e |grep espeakup

-- Chris

Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

If the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, I have no way of
finding out.
I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak
from the command line and there was no speech output.

On 10/9/16, Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote:
> Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
>> started after the installation.
>
> Is the speakup_soft module loaded?
> lsmod |grep speakup
> Is espeakup running?
> ps -e |grep espeakup
>
> -- Chris
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[John G. Heim]

What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a screenshot 
and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled text but you 
probably will be able to make it out.


vboxmanage controlvm $VMNAME screenshotpng $PNGFILE
tesseract $PNGFILE stdout

On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> If the speakup and speakup_soft modules are loaded, I have no way of
> finding out.
> I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak
> from the command line and there was no speech output.
>
> On 10/9/16, Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote:
>> Hunter Hoke <hokehunterj@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I managed to install Debian with speech. However, I cannot get Speakup
>>> started after the installation.
>> Is the speakup_soft module loaded?
>> lsmod |grep speakup
>> Is espeakup running?
>> ps -e |grep espeakup
>>
>> -- Chris
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 03:53:17PM -0500, John G. Heim wrote:
> What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a
> screenshot and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled
> text but you probably will be able to make it out.

I believe the OP mentioned earlier in this thread that vmware was
being used.

> On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> >I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak
> >from the command line and there was no speech output.

If all you did is type espeak <enter>, then that's no surprise, since
you need to give espeak something to say for it to produce output.

Greg


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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.

On 10/30/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 03:53:17PM -0500, John G. Heim wrote:
>> What kind of virtual machine? With virtualbox, you can take a
>> screenshot and pipe it to tesseract. It gives you somewhat scrambled
>> text but you probably will be able to make it out.
>
> I believe the OP mentioned earlier in this thread that vmware was
> being used.
>
>> On 10/30/2016 02:27 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>> >I think there's a problem with espeak itself; I tried running espeak
>> >from the command line and there was no speech output.
>
> If all you did is type espeak <enter>, then that's no surprise, since
> you need to give espeak something to say for it to produce output.
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.

Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
problem could be.

Greg


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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

I used the installation speech with espeak.

On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
>
> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
> problem could be.
>
> Greg
>
>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> I used the installation speech with espeak.

Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left
intact below.

Greg


> 
> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> >> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
> >
> > Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
> > try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
> > pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
> > problem could be.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
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> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Hunter Hoke]

Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened.

On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>> I used the installation speech with espeak.
>
> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left
> intact below.
>
> Greg
>
>
>>
>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>> >> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
>> >
>> > Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
>> > try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
>> > pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
>> > problem could be.
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
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>> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 02:56:42PM -0500, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened.

Then I'm not sure what the problem is, and am currently out of ideas
to solve it. Maybe someone else will be able to help you. Have you
considered creating a new guest, and trying the install again to see
if you get the same results?

Greg


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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[jeremy]

Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are actually able 
to boot into the new system, once you've finished up with the install. I 
have absolutely no clue why, but the last time I tried a Debian 8 
install inside vmware, using the normal text installer from the net 
install cd, I never could get it to boot. I don't have enough site to be 
able to see what's actually on the screen, but it certainly wasn't 
getting beyond just a second or two after powering on the vm.

With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so I 
never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving me issues 
with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had no speech on 
starting it up and why none of your commands seem to work. haha
Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your issue, but I 
was trying it on the latest VMWare player with windows7 as the host.

On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened.
>
> On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>>> I used the installation speech with espeak.
>> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left
>> intact below.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
>>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
>>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
>>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
>>>> problem could be.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> contacts.
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>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> --
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>>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[John Covici]

How are you booting the machine and can you shell into it from another
computer?  Once you shell in, it will be much easier to figure out
what is going wrong.

On Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:15:38 -0500,
jeremy wrote:
> 
> Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are
> actually able to boot into the new system, once you've finished
> up with the install. I have absolutely no clue why, but the last
> time I tried a Debian 8 install inside vmware, using the normal
> text installer from the net install cd, I never could get it to
> boot. I don't have enough site to be able to see what's actually
> on the screen, but it certainly wasn't getting beyond just a
> second or two after powering on the vm.
> 
> With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so
> I never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving
> me issues with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had
> no speech on starting it up and why none of your commands seem to
> work. haha
> Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your
> issue, but I was trying it on the latest VMWare player with
> windows7 as the host.
> 
> On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> > Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened.
> > 
> > On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> >>> I used the installation speech with espeak.
> >> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left
> >> intact below.
> >> 
> >> Greg
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
> >>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
> >>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
> >>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
> >>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
> >>>> problem could be.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Greg
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net
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> >>>> skype: gregn1
> >>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first)
> >>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your
> >>>> contacts.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
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> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Speakup mailing list
> >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Speakup mailing list
> >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> --
> >> web site: http://www.gregn.net
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> >> contacts.
> >> 
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> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 

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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[jeremy]

Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the 
shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all 
being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I could 
see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was never 
actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to something 
that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards, have a tiny bit 
of text in the top left corner that would never change. Typically, on 
any other Linux installation inside VMWare, once the grub menu displays 
and you make a selection, you'd see a great deal of text scroll on the 
display. This scrolling would normally take at least a few seconds and 
then either stop or clear out when it reaches the end, leaving you with 
the login area where you enter your username and password.
I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player and 
everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was something 
caused by VMWare itself.
I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is the 
same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain why 
there's no speech. :)
Take care.
On 11/7/2016 3:08 PM, John Covici wrote:
> How are you booting the machine and can you shell into it from another
> computer?  Once you shell in, it will be much easier to figure out
> what is going wrong.
>
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:15:38 -0500,
> jeremy wrote:
>> Kind of a strange question, but I'd make sure that you are
>> actually able to boot into the new system, once you've finished
>> up with the install. I have absolutely no clue why, but the last
>> time I tried a Debian 8 install inside vmware, using the normal
>> text installer from the net install cd, I never could get it to
>> boot. I don't have enough site to be able to see what's actually
>> on the screen, but it certainly wasn't getting beyond just a
>> second or two after powering on the vm.
>>
>> With any other distribution I've tried there, it worked great, so
>> I never could quite understand why the latest debian was giving
>> me issues with VMWare. That would certainly explain why you had
>> no speech on starting it up and why none of your commands seem to
>> work. haha
>> Don't know if it matters or even if it's what's behind your
>> issue, but I was trying it on the latest VMWare player with
>> windows7 as the host.
>>
>> On 11/7/2016 1:56 PM, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>>> Whoops. I also tried it as root and nothing happened.
>>>
>>> On 11/5/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 04:58:49PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>>>>> I used the installation speech with espeak.
>>>> Yes, I realize that, but you didn't answer my question which I left
>>>> intact below.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/4/16, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 11:00:13PM -0400, Hunter Hoke wrote:
>>>>>>> I did. I typed Espeak hello, and nothing happened.
>>>>>> Logged in as root, or a normal user? If logged in as a normal user,
>>>>>> try it as root. If that works, then your problem is likely with
>>>>>> pulseaudio. If it doesn't work as root, then I'm not sure what the
>>>>>> problem could be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[Gregory Nowak]

The OP was asked earlier in the thread if sounds besides espeak could
be played/heard, and the answer was yes. So, I for one assumed until
this point that whatever the issue is, it isn't an install that
doesn't boot.

Greg


On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 01:21:18PM -0600, jeremy wrote:
> Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the
> shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all
> being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I
> could see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was
> never actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to
> something that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards,
> have a tiny bit of text in the top left corner that would never
> change. Typically, on any other Linux installation inside VMWare,
> once the grub menu displays and you make a selection, you'd see a
> great deal of text scroll on the display. This scrolling would
> normally take at least a few seconds and then either stop or clear
> out when it reaches the end, leaving you with the login area where
> you enter your username and password.
> I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player
> and everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was
> something caused by VMWare itself.
> I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is
> the same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain
> why there's no speech. :)
> Take care.


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Re: Starting Speakup on a Debian Virtual Machine

[jeremy]

Now that I'm reading back through the archives, I do see where he said 
that sound was working, however, it still isn't clear on exactly what 
sound that may be. I'm fairly certain that he'd specify if it were a pc 
speaker type sound, something that would play, even without the vm ever 
booting, just as it did on mine, but if it's any other type of sound, 
then that's more than what I had on mine and I'm incorrect.

I'd of guessed that if he were able to somehow access the machine 
through other means, SSH or whatever and get it to play a sound, he'd of 
also posted any errors he came across with speakup and it's parts. 
Without knowing for sure that he's actually able to fully boot it and 
reach a console, it's hard to say.

Depending on how the vm is configured, I'd probably think it worth while 
to see if the installation can get an address through DHCP on the 
router, but unless he has some way to verify how far he's making it 
after he powers on the vm, I don't know. That's about the time I'd be 
asking someone to read the screen to me to get an error so I could post 
it here on this wonderful list. :)
Take care.
Gregory Nowak wrote:
> The OP was asked earlier in the thread if sounds besides espeak could
> be played/heard, and the answer was yes. So, I for one assumed until
> this point that whatever the issue is, it isn't an install that
> doesn't boot.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 01:21:18PM -0600, jeremy wrote:
>> Nah, I'd just used the shortcut key to power on the vm and then the
>> shortcut to send input over to it. As far as any output, it was all
>> being sent to the vm's display. Either way, from the very little I
>> could see on the vm's window, it was pretty obvious that Linux was
>> never actually booting. After I'd power it on, it would take me to
>> something that looked like a grub menu and then right afterwards,
>> have a tiny bit of text in the top left corner that would never
>> change. Typically, on any other Linux installation inside VMWare,
>> once the grub menu displays and you make a selection, you'd see a
>> great deal of text scroll on the display. This scrolling would
>> normally take at least a few seconds and then either stop or clear
>> out when it reaches the end, leaving you with the login area where
>> you enter your username and password.
>> I'd also tried to do the same installation outside of VMWare player
>> and everything worked as I'd expect it to, so I figured it was
>> something caused by VMWare itself.
>> I figured it was worth mentioning here in this thread, as if it is
>> the same problem, Debian failing to boot, it would certainly explain
>> why there's no speech. :)
>> Take care.
>