Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Joseph Norton]

Hi:

In Debian 7, speakup is using espeakup to run.

I'm trying to change to speechd-up so I can run toxin with it.

Here's what I'm doing:

First, I do an apt-get install speech-dispatcher

Everything seems to work ok.  I edited /etc/default/speech-dispatcher to say "RUN=yes"

Then, i did apt-get install speechd-up.

I got a bunch of errors.  Here's what happened (see below).  Any ideas on how to make the system happy?

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  speechd-up
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 42.4 kB of archives.
After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/ wheezy/main speechd-up i386 0.5~20110719-2 [42.4 kB]
Fetched 42.4 kB in 0s (62.5 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package speechd-up.
(Reading database ... 26552 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking speechd-up (from .../speechd-up_0.5~20110719-2_i386.deb) ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Setting up speechd-up (0.5~20110719-2) ...
Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 09:02:17 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
Starting speechd-up...
To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
rmmod speakup speakup_soft
 failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript speechd-up, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing speechd-up (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 speechd-up
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL]

Hi,

Can you try if your /etc/init.d contains speechd-up and, if yes, do, as
root: /etc/init.d/speechd-up start. or restart instead of start?

Tell me what's displayed.

Thanks,

Regards,

JPM

On dimanche 19 mai 2013 à 09:05:44 (-0400), Joseph Norton wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> In Debian 7, speakup is using espeakup to run.
> 
> I'm trying to change to speechd-up so I can run toxin with it.
> 
> Here's what I'm doing:
> 
> First, I do an apt-get install speech-dispatcher
> 
> Everything seems to work ok.  I edited /etc/default/speech-dispatcher to say "RUN=yes"
> 
> Then, i did apt-get install speechd-up.
> 
> I got a bunch of errors.  Here's what happened (see below).  Any ideas on how to make the system happy?
> 
> Reading package lists...
> Building dependency tree...
> Reading state information...
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   speechd-up
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 42.4 kB of archives.
> After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Get:1 http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/ wheezy/main speechd-up i386 0.5~20110719-2 [42.4 kB]
> Fetched 42.4 kB in 0s (62.5 kB/s)
> Selecting previously unselected package speechd-up.
> (Reading database ... 26552 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking speechd-up (from .../speechd-up_0.5~20110719-2_i386.deb) ...
> Processing triggers for install-info ...
> Setting up speechd-up (0.5~20110719-2) ...
> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 09:02:17 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
> Starting speechd-up...
> To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
> They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
> rmmod speakup speakup_soft
>  failed!
> invoke-rc.d: initscript speechd-up, action "start" failed.
> dpkg: error processing speechd-up (--configure):
>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  speechd-up
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Joseph Norton]

Hi:

Sorry, but, no file "speechd-up" in /etc/init.d.

Thanks!



On May 19, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can you try if your /etc/init.d contains speechd-up and, if yes, do, as
> root: /etc/init.d/speechd-up start. or restart instead of start?
> 
> Tell me what's displayed.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> JPM
> 
> On dimanche 19 mai 2013 à 09:05:44 (-0400), Joseph Norton wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> In Debian 7, speakup is using espeakup to run.
>> 
>> I'm trying to change to speechd-up so I can run toxin with it.
>> 
>> Here's what I'm doing:
>> 
>> First, I do an apt-get install speech-dispatcher
>> 
>> Everything seems to work ok.  I edited /etc/default/speech-dispatcher to say "RUN=yes"
>> 
>> Then, i did apt-get install speechd-up.
>> 
>> I got a bunch of errors.  Here's what happened (see below).  Any ideas on how to make the system happy?
>> 
>> Reading package lists...
>> Building dependency tree...
>> Reading state information...
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>  speechd-up
>> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 42.4 kB of archives.
>> After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
>> Get:1 http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/ wheezy/main speechd-up i386 0.5~20110719-2 [42.4 kB]
>> Fetched 42.4 kB in 0s (62.5 kB/s)
>> Selecting previously unselected package speechd-up.
>> (Reading database ... 26552 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking speechd-up (from .../speechd-up_0.5~20110719-2_i386.deb) ...
>> Processing triggers for install-info ...
>> Setting up speechd-up (0.5~20110719-2) ...
>> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 09:02:17 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
>> Starting speechd-up...
>> To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
>> They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
>> rmmod speakup speakup_soft
>> failed!
>> invoke-rc.d: initscript speechd-up, action "start" failed.
>> dpkg: error processing speechd-up (--configure):
>> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>> speechd-up
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Joseph Norton]

Hi:

Sorry for the confusion.  I do have a file called "speechd-up" in /etc/init.d.  

Here is what happened after I did /etc/init.d/speechd-up start

Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 20:52:57 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
Starting speechd-up...
To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
rmmod speakup speakup_soft
 failed!


Thanks!
On May 19, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can you try if your /etc/init.d contains speechd-up and, if yes, do, as
> root: /etc/init.d/speechd-up start. or restart instead of start?
> 
> Tell me what's displayed.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> JPM
> 
> On dimanche 19 mai 2013 à 09:05:44 (-0400), Joseph Norton wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> In Debian 7, speakup is using espeakup to run.
>> 
>> I'm trying to change to speechd-up so I can run toxin with it.
>> 
>> Here's what I'm doing:
>> 
>> First, I do an apt-get install speech-dispatcher
>> 
>> Everything seems to work ok.  I edited /etc/default/speech-dispatcher to say "RUN=yes"
>> 
>> Then, i did apt-get install speechd-up.
>> 
>> I got a bunch of errors.  Here's what happened (see below).  Any ideas on how to make the system happy?
>> 
>> Reading package lists...
>> Building dependency tree...
>> Reading state information...
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>  speechd-up
>> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 42.4 kB of archives.
>> After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
>> Get:1 http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/ wheezy/main speechd-up i386 0.5~20110719-2 [42.4 kB]
>> Fetched 42.4 kB in 0s (62.5 kB/s)
>> Selecting previously unselected package speechd-up.
>> (Reading database ... 26552 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking speechd-up (from .../speechd-up_0.5~20110719-2_i386.deb) ...
>> Processing triggers for install-info ...
>> Setting up speechd-up (0.5~20110719-2) ...
>> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 09:02:17 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
>> Starting speechd-up...
>> To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
>> They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
>> rmmod speakup speakup_soft
>> failed!
>> invoke-rc.d: initscript speechd-up, action "start" failed.
>> dpkg: error processing speechd-up (--configure):
>> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>> speechd-up
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Tony Baechler]

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OK, here is a random guess.  I don't use any of those packages, so I could
be completely wrong, but it sounds like it can't load the Speakup modules.
 There are only a couple of reasons why.  First, because they're already
loaded.  If you still have espeakup installed, try removing it so it
doesn't load on boot as it also tries to load the modules.  The other
reason could be because you don't have the modules in the first place, but
I don't think that's the case.  I would first try removing espeakup and
stop all speech programs.  Try starting them by hand, making sure the
speakup and speakup_soft modules are also removed with rmmod as the error
tells you.  In other words, let the init script load the modules as
intended.  If that doesn't seem to help, check /etc/modules and comment
out any speakup or speakup_soft lines and reboot.  A reboot isn't strictly
necessary, but the idea is to clear any loaded modules and speech
programs.  Of course that means you won't have speech at login until you
get Speech-Dispatcher working, but you can always reinstall espeakup.  You
could also temporarily remove the execute bit on /etc/init.d/espeakup if
you don't want to completely remove the package.  As I said, I don't use
those packages, so I could be totally wrong, but to me, it sounds like it
can't load the modules because they're already loaded and the script gets
an error.

On 5/19/2013 5:55 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion.  I do have a file called "speechd-up" in
> /etc/init.d.
> 
> Here is what happened after I did /etc/init.d/speechd-up start
> 
> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher :
> speechd-up[Sun May 19 20:52:57 2013] speechd: Configuration has been
> read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf" Starting speechd-up... To work,
> speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules. They are loaded
> automatically. If you don't want, type rmmod speakup speakup_soft 
> failed!
> 
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Re: Is speechd-up broken in debian 7 or do I need to do something not obvious

[Jean-Philippe MENGUAL]

Hi,

See if: ps aux|grep speechd-up 
returns something. Then, try:
/usr/bin/speechd-up 

and tell me the result.

Regards,

JPM

On dimanche 19 mai 2013 à 20:55:59 (-0400), Joseph Norton wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  I do have a file called "speechd-up" in /etc/init.d.  
> 
> Here is what happened after I did /etc/init.d/speechd-up start
> 
> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 20:52:57 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
> Starting speechd-up...
> To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
> They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
> rmmod speakup speakup_soft
>  failed!
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> On May 19, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can you try if your /etc/init.d contains speechd-up and, if yes, do, as
> > root: /etc/init.d/speechd-up start. or restart instead of start?
> > 
> > Tell me what's displayed.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > JPM
> > 
> > On dimanche 19 mai 2013 à 09:05:44 (-0400), Joseph Norton wrote:
> >> Hi:
> >> 
> >> In Debian 7, speakup is using espeakup to run.
> >> 
> >> I'm trying to change to speechd-up so I can run toxin with it.
> >> 
> >> Here's what I'm doing:
> >> 
> >> First, I do an apt-get install speech-dispatcher
> >> 
> >> Everything seems to work ok.  I edited /etc/default/speech-dispatcher to say "RUN=yes"
> >> 
> >> Then, i did apt-get install speechd-up.
> >> 
> >> I got a bunch of errors.  Here's what happened (see below).  Any ideas on how to make the system happy?
> >> 
> >> Reading package lists...
> >> Building dependency tree...
> >> Reading state information...
> >> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >>  speechd-up
> >> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> >> Need to get 42.4 kB of archives.
> >> After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
> >> Get:1 http://mirrors.xmission.com/debian/ wheezy/main speechd-up i386 0.5~20110719-2 [42.4 kB]
> >> Fetched 42.4 kB in 0s (62.5 kB/s)
> >> Selecting previously unselected package speechd-up.
> >> (Reading database ... 26552 files and directories currently installed.)
> >> Unpacking speechd-up (from .../speechd-up_0.5~20110719-2_i386.deb) ...
> >> Processing triggers for install-info ...
> >> Setting up speechd-up (0.5~20110719-2) ...
> >> Starting Interface between speakup and speech-dispatcher : speechd-up[Sun May 19 09:02:17 2013] speechd: Configuration has been read from "/etc/speechd-up.conf"
> >> Starting speechd-up...
> >> To work, speechd-up needs speakup and speakup_soft modules.
> >> They are loaded automatically. If you don't want, type
> >> rmmod speakup speakup_soft
> >> failed!
> >> invoke-rc.d: initscript speechd-up, action "start" failed.
> >> dpkg: error processing speechd-up (--configure):
> >> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> >> Errors were encountered while processing:
> >> speechd-up
> >> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup