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* mixing media, was talking debian install.
@  Karen Lewellen
   ` Samuel Thibault
   ` Glenn
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Karen Lewellen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

greetings all,
An unusual question indeed.
My friend gave me the bet of DVD images of Debian, but I did not realize 
I might have a different issue.
While both of the possible computers I might use for this have usb ports, 
and I have an external usb DVD drive, I cannot actually boot from usb at 
all.
I can boot from the cd drive certainly which is motivating my question.
Is it possible to boot an install in one media, cd, then finish 
installation using another, say DVD?
There is no issue with the machines seeing the drive, or I feel there will 
be none.
But I must boot from something else if this is going to work.
Thoughts?
Karen

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* Re: mixing media, was talking debian install.
@  Martin McCormick
   ` Kitty Litter
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Martin McCormick @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

	This discussion brings up a question. There is a most
annoying problem in Dell and possibly other BIOS' in which the
boot sequence reverts to one that puts the hard drive before
the CDROM. If the hard drive appears bootable but isn't or you
don't like what it does, you are out of luck

	All the systems in question have usb ports but they are
not part of the boot selection. One of them has no floppy drive
although the BIOS still lists drive A indicating you could
probably add it temporarily. 

	Has anybody else had this happen and did you find a way
short of asking somebody to help you re-order the boot sequence,
to fix this problem?

	I think the low-level code in the BIOS detects a problem
in the boot sequence at some time and resets itself but I am not
sure what triggers it. It has happened often enough on enough
different systems that I am pretty sure they were set properly
at first and then mysteriously re-order themselves some time
later.

	One doesn't notice anything until it is time to try out
a live CD or use a CDROM in rescue mode at which time you
realize that it isn't going to happen just yet.

Gregory Nowak writes:
> Yes, this should still work, since the installer searches for media
> before actually starting to do the install. So, you should in fact be
> able to boot from an internal cd drive, and do the install from dvd in
> an external drive, provided debian recognizes the external drive,
> which it should. HTH.
> 
> Greg
> 
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* Re: mixing media, was talking debian install.
@  Martin McCormick
   ` Kerry Hoath
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Martin McCormick @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

	The system I have that started the discussion of the
boot sequence has no floppy drive at all. It's possible there is
a traditional floppy controller and connector hidden somewhere
on the board, but it was manufactured around 2004 or so and
floppies were starting to fall out of favor by then. I can't
imagine why they left out such a vital resource as one could
have used it and around seventy-thousand floppy disks to back up
the 70-gig hard drive in, let's see, about 48 days. 

	The BIOS setup screen actually lists a Drive A but you'd
have to probably find an IDE floppy drive to make it work.

	Fortunately, the boot sequence did not change on this
system. I was just confused by the way the power-off sleep
feature worked.

	As of last night, I was able to use the wheezy rescue
disk to mount the hard drive so I could go in and edit the file
names in /etc/rc2.d. Those are all the scripts that start
important unix services such as cron and many others. 
There is a README file that tells you how to prevent a service
from starting so I turned off bluetooth as there is no bluetooth
controller, gdm3 as there is not a mouse present and I think
maybe one more service.

	The system rebooted and speakup came right up each time.
I now have a good command-line system with an accessible login
prompt. 

	It seems like I read that somebody got gnome to run with
speakup, though. The goal is to be able to use it all. I would
really like to get firefox working in gnome. Lots of other
things are less hassle under the command line.

Glenn writes:
> I have never run into this as the boot setup by default.
> Often the CD drive is third, and I change that to second, but I don't know
> why a manufacturer would ship a computer with the floppy drive not the 
> first
> boot device, unless a customer asks for that configuration.
> Glenn

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