Re: talking debian. (fwd)

Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Karen Lewellen]

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Hi all,
Perhaps a silly question, but based on the below information, how does one 
install Debian if you do not have high speed access?
My present situation is that my dsl modem is damaged and I have not 
replaced it.
I did not realize that the images needed took up so many cds.
suggestions?
Karen

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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Chang <rekcaheht@yahoo.com>
To: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
Subject: Re: talking debian.

Hi Karen,

I just noticed that the full CD set requires a whopping 52 discs!!!  So I think it's more reasonable to download the network installation image (less than 200 MB), burn one CD, and let the installer download whatever it needs over the Internet....  Unless you want to purchase 52 blank CDs.  Unfortunately we can't use the DVD images because your ThinkPad doesn't have a DVD drive.

J.




>________________________________
> From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
>To: Jay C <rekcaheht@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:02:19 PM
>Subject: talking debian.
>
>Hi Jay,
>I sit corrected, these are cd images, which has me feeling better as I can replace the ones you use with   blank new ones...I just got package.
>If  you read the links, there is reference to software speech, but hardware, what I use has been in the install for years.  I intend following the steps to install squeeze, so I would burn the first set of images in the installer list.
>Thanks, this is going to be fun!
>Karen
>
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>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:31:23 +0200
>From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
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>To: tyler@tysdomain.com,
>    Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Subject: Re: talking debian cd-newer version?
>
>Samuel Thibault, le Mon 02 Apr 2012 19:27:21 +0200, a écrit :
>> Samuel Thibault, le Mon 02 Apr 2012 19:22:15 +0200, a écrit :
>>> the next stable Debian will have everything in place already, and
>>> is already supposed to be able to install squeeze (using the expert
>>> mode).
>>
>> By this, I mean that you can already use it, from
>> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer
>
>And I've just tried and can confirm that it works, see the README on
>http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/espeakup/
>or on http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility
>
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Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[David Csercsics]

Could you possibly send someone a USB hard disk to dump the data to? 
Then you would only need the boot CD if your laptop can't boot from USB. 
That's about all I could think of. It's a little smaller than 52 CD's 
would be and easier to manage.

Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Samuel Thibault]

Karen Lewellen, le Thu 05 Apr 2012 15:27:26 -0400, a écrit :
> Perhaps a silly question, but based on the below information, how does one
> install Debian if you do not have high speed access?

You don't need to burn all CDs. For most installations, just using the
first 1, 2 or at most 3 CDs is enough, and the rest (extremely little)
can be downloaded over the Internet.

samuel

Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Karen Lewellen]

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How does one make this determination?
the links to image files included on the page you suggested makes no 
breakdown that I can tell.
I  may have a solution.  I do have an external DVD drive which I am 
*hopping* will be seen by this machine.
My friend is burning the 8 DVD images, which I am also assuming includes 
the talking install.
I may be all set, but answer the question anyway, in case we have to burn 
the cds instead.
Karen

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> Karen Lewellen, le Thu 05 Apr 2012 15:27:26 -0400, a écrit :
>> Perhaps a silly question, but based on the below information, how does one
>> install Debian if you do not have high speed access?
>
> You don't need to burn all CDs. For most installations, just using the
> first 1, 2 or at most 3 CDs is enough, and the rest (extremely little)
> can be downloaded over the Internet.
>
> samuel
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Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Samuel Thibault]

Karen Lewellen, le Thu 05 Apr 2012 18:17:51 -0400, a écrit :
> How does one make this determination?

See the installation manual

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s01.html.en

> the links to image files included on the page you suggested makes no
> breakdown that I can tell.

What page do you mean? The wiki or my website do not repeat what is said
on the official documentations.

> My friend is burning the 8 DVD images,

Really, *no* need to burn all 8 DVDs. Just one will be more than enough.

> which I am also assuming includes the talking install.

Only if it is an image of Wheezy, and not Squeeze.

Samuel

Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Doug Smith]

When I was experimenting with it a few days ago, I didn't need a lot of cd's.  I just used 1.  It was the 
talkiing installer from 

http://www.debian.org/devel/

and it had the information it needed on it to set up everything.  I guess it would pull in packages from the 
network to get the ones you needed.  Then you wouldn't have to have all those discs.  

I only have to say that it will take a very long time to do unless you replace your dsl modem before doing 
it, but it should work. 



Glad to help 



Doug Smith

Re: talking debian. (fwd)

[Karen Lewellen]

All the more reason to have all the 8 DVD images in hand at first.  I would 
rather have more  than I need to have to hunt via a network I may not have 
in place.
I have been waiting many years to do this, want to start at the top of the 
installation manual and work through the process.
Karen

On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Doug Smith wrote:

> When I was experimenting with it a few days ago, I didn't need a lot of cd's.  I just used 1.  It was the
> talkiing installer from
>
> http://www.debian.org/devel/
>
> and it had the information it needed on it to set up everything.  I guess it would pull in packages from the
> network to get the ones you needed.  Then you wouldn't have to have all those discs.
>
> I only have to say that it will take a very long time to do unless you replace your dsl modem before doing
> it, but it should work.
>
>
>
> Glad to help
>
>
>
> Doug Smith
>
>
>
>
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