Audible grup/lilo?

Audible grup/lilo?

[Gaijin]

	Hello all,

	Well, I've written  William Pitcock,  who appears in the
copyright notice to be lilo's maintainer at present, and asked to 
discuss the possibility of modifying lilo to include audible signals for
the visually impared.  Hopefully, something may come of it in future 
lilo releases.  I don't use grub, and don't even have the maintainer's 
address, so I'll leave it up  to you grub users.  I've mentioned 
increasing the frequency of beeps as you cursor down the menu, having a 
unique beep for item #1, to the possibility of using morse code to read 
out menu items to help the visually impared with the bootloader menus, 
and am still waiting for a reply.  I doubt it would be all that hard to
include an audible indicator feature in the boot menus that can be
toggled on in the .conf files.  We may not get it to spell things out in
morse code, but maybe we won't have to hack and recompile something in
on later releases if they show an interest.

			Michael

Re: Audible grup/lilo?

[Hart Larry]

I like those unique ideas.  At least with Lilo you can type a letter such as s 
for Speakup  or j for jupiter-and it will boot.  I don't know that grub would 
let you do anything other than arrowing in silence
Hart

Audible grup/lilo?

[John covici]

Just to let you know, both grub and lilo will put stuff out the serial
port, so if you have a hardware synth, you are in.

on Saturday 05/17/2008 Gaijin(gaijin@clearwire.net) wrote
 > 	Hello all,
 > 
 > 	Well, I've written  William Pitcock,  who appears in the
 > copyright notice to be lilo's maintainer at present, and asked to 
 > discuss the possibility of modifying lilo to include audible signals for
 > the visually impared.  Hopefully, something may come of it in future 
 > lilo releases.  I don't use grub, and don't even have the maintainer's 
 > address, so I'll leave it up  to you grub users.  I've mentioned 
 > increasing the frequency of beeps as you cursor down the menu, having a 
 > unique beep for item #1, to the possibility of using morse code to read 
 > out menu items to help the visually impared with the bootloader menus, 
 > and am still waiting for a reply.  I doubt it would be all that hard to
 > include an audible indicator feature in the boot menus that can be
 > toggled on in the .conf files.  We may not get it to spell things out in
 > morse code, but maybe we won't have to hack and recompile something in
 > on later releases if they show an interest.
 > 
 > 			Michael
 > 
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 > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
 > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Audible grup/lilo?

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 07:16:57PM -0700, Gaijin wrote:
> 	Well, I've written  William Pitcock,  who appears in the
> copyright notice to be lilo's maintainer at present, and asked to 
> discuss the possibility of modifying lilo to include audible signals for
> the visually impared.  Hopefully, something may come of it in future 
> lilo releases.

You can already get lilo to beep, by putting a ctrl+g in the
boot_message.txt file, or whatever file you use to display the boot
message. I can't immediately think of a way to make it beep as you
move from item to item, but if you know how your lilo.conf is written,
you should be able to make the choices you need to make without a
beep. Also, as has been mentioned, those of us lucky to have serial
ports and serial synths are already in business.

Greg


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Re: Audible grup/lilo?

[Janina Sajka]

Both lilo and grub support beeps. You can stick in as many as you
want--so may even come close to simulating morse by judicious use of
silence.

I wouldn't find increasing pitch very helpful. I tend, myself, to only
keep a few stanzas in my boot loader. Rarely do I have even as many as
six, and it's just nopt that hard to count down from the top or up from
the bottom.

PS: In grub, if you attempt to arrow up off the stanza list (or down off
it), you get only a single beep for the stanza you're on. If you arrow
from from the first stanza to the second, you get two beeps, the one you
leave and the one you arrive at.

Works for me.

Janina

Gaijin writes:
> 	Hello all,
> 
> 	Well, I've written  William Pitcock,  who appears in the
> copyright notice to be lilo's maintainer at present, and asked to 
> discuss the possibility of modifying lilo to include audible signals for
> the visually impared.  Hopefully, something may come of it in future 
> lilo releases.  I don't use grub, and don't even have the maintainer's 
> address, so I'll leave it up  to you grub users.  I've mentioned 
> increasing the frequency of beeps as you cursor down the menu, having a 
> unique beep for item #1, to the possibility of using morse code to read 
> out menu items to help the visually impared with the bootloader menus, 
> and am still waiting for a reply.  I doubt it would be all that hard to
> include an audible indicator feature in the boot menus that can be
> toggled on in the .conf files.  We may not get it to spell things out in
> morse code, but maybe we won't have to hack and recompile something in
> on later releases if they show an interest.
> 
> 			Michael
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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