From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [75.125.70.226]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7E610ADB for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 16:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net ([IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4JKfRlY020380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 20:41:27 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4JKfRgQ020379 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 19 May 2008 16:41:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:41:27 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Audible grup/lilo? Message-ID: <20080519204127.GP5694@rednote.net> References: <20080518021657.GA6521@clearwire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080518021657.GA6521@clearwire.net> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.25.3-18.spk.fc9.x86_64 Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on opera.rednote.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:41:27 -0000 Both lilo and grub support beeps. You can stick in as many as you want--so may even come close to simulating morse by judicious use of silence. I wouldn't find increasing pitch very helpful. I tend, myself, to only keep a few stanzas in my boot loader. Rarely do I have even as many as six, and it's just nopt that hard to count down from the top or up from the bottom. PS: In grub, if you attempt to arrow up off the stanza list (or down off it), you get only a single beep for the stanza you're on. If you arrow from from the first stanza to the second, you get two beeps, the one you leave and the one you arrive at. Works for me. Janina Gaijin writes: > Hello all, > > Well, I've written William Pitcock, who appears in the > copyright notice to be lilo's maintainer at present, and asked to > discuss the possibility of modifying lilo to include audible signals for > the visually impared. Hopefully, something may come of it in future > lilo releases. I don't use grub, and don't even have the maintainer's > address, so I'll leave it up to you grub users. I've mentioned > increasing the frequency of beeps as you cursor down the menu, having a > unique beep for item #1, to the possibility of using morse code to read > out menu items to help the visually impared with the bootloader menus, > and am still waiting for a reply. I doubt it would be all that hard to > include an audible indicator feature in the boot menus that can be > toggled on in the .conf files. We may not get it to spell things out in > morse code, but maybe we won't have to hack and recompile something in > on later releases if they show an interest. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org