* Mutt and speech
@ Zachary Kline
[not found] ` <20080421052157.GA17892@clearwire.net>
` Ralph W. Reid
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt.
It works pretty nicely with my various speech systems as is, but I was wondering
as to other people's experiences. Are there any features I should avoid for accessibility reasons?
I like being able to customize it, but the sheer number of options is daunting..
.
Any tips from more advanced users on this list?
Thanks,
Zack.
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* Re: Mutt and speech [not found] ` <20080421052157.GA17892@clearwire.net> @ ` Gaijin ` Tyler Spivey ` Ralph W. Reid 2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Gaijin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt. <End-Quote> Use it myself and love it. I just wish I could find out how to make it set vim's text width setting to 72, so I don't have to keep typing it in manually. I like how it works with spamassassin, and one of these days I'll read up on how to make it put things into folders based on the "List-ID" header field. It doesn't work well with the Orca mailing list, though. If you try to save a message, you always have to call up the Mail directory and highlight the list's save file, or it defaults to the user's mail address, making a large mess. I sure wish they'd fix that, because you can't even hit "r" to reply to the list, rather than the mail's author. PITA IMHO, and totally bassackwards. Anyway, I can only suggest using 'ignore *' and 'unignore <headers to unignore>' in the /etc/Muttrc file to weed headers. Otherwise, you wind up looking at 60+ lines of header information. <grins> Took me awhile to figure out how to save attachments. Had to give SpeakUP a workout to see what exactly was being displayed. Michael ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and speech [not found] ` <20080421052157.GA17892@clearwire.net> ` Gaijin @ ` Tyler Spivey ` Ralph W. Reid 2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Tyler Spivey @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 add "filetype on" without the quotes to your .vimrc. If you have the correct vim, it and mutt should work automatically and automatically set your textwidth to 72 by default. - - Tyler -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkgMhWcACgkQTsjaYASMWKTpzACffZWdRjLkidSS3UYXilXFUQGm cRwAoIx8KCXHn46F9FANPtukQ1YPWeDP =sakd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and speech [not found] ` <20080421052157.GA17892@clearwire.net> ` Gaijin ` Tyler Spivey @ ` Ralph W. Reid 2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Could vim's text width be set in a .vimrc file or maybe in the 'editor=' setting by including a command line parameter for bim in your Muttrc file? I mostly use emacs these days, but I seem to recall doing a lot with .vimrc files in the past. HTH, and have a great day. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:21:57PM -0700, Gaijin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > > I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt. > <End-Quote> > > Use it myself and love it. I just wish I could find out how to > make it set vim's text width setting to 72, so I don't have to > keep typing it in manually. I like how it works with spamassassin, and > one of these days I'll read up on how to make it put things into folders > based on the "List-ID" header field. It doesn't work well with the Orca > mailing list, though. If you try to save a message, you always have to > call up the Mail directory and highlight the list's save file, or it > defaults to the user's mail address, making a large mess. I sure wish > they'd fix that, because you can't even hit "r" to reply to the list, > rather than the mail's author. PITA IMHO, and totally bassackwards. > Anyway, I can only suggest using 'ignore *' and 'unignore <headers to > unignore>' in the /etc/Muttrc file to weed headers. Otherwise, you wind > up looking at 60+ lines of header information. <grins> Took me awhile > to figure out how to save attachments. Had to give SpeakUP a workout to > see what exactly was being displayed. > > Michael > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light... CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and speech Mutt and speech Zachary Kline [not found] ` <20080421052157.GA17892@clearwire.net> @ ` Ralph W. Reid ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I have not come across a particular option to avoid due to accessibility concerns within Mutt. There certainly are many things to customize. I have found that the Muttrc file is pretty well documented itself. I suggest trying things that look like they might be interesting. If you do not like the result, you can always put things back the way they were (do keep backups of configurations you like). HTH, and have a great day. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt. > It works pretty nicely with my various speech systems as is, but I was wondering > as to other people's experiences. Are there any features I should avoid for accessibility reasons? > I like being able to customize it, but the sheer number of options is daunting.. > . > Any tips from more advanced users on this list? > Thanks, > Zack. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light... CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt and speech ` Ralph W. Reid @ ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Like what was said earlier, there aren't any options to think of that really affect a11y. But I have customized my detail lines for the message list and the status line at the bottom to give me just what I want to know concisely including how many messages are in each thread. I also tweaked the ignore commands to show a very brief header summary at the top of my messages. I'll tell you what, between my .emacs and my .muttrc files, I cherish my config files and will utterly go into dispare if I should ever lose them.:) A couple other mutt notes: it is so configurable that I can pipe message contents into firefox or elinks for full webifying of html type messages or open the attachments window and play the attached file with appropriate players. To do all this, you need to mess with mime types and mailcap files. Mutt respects these files. You can also do a list-reply to "subscribed" lists so lists like Orca can be replied to by doing a shift-L instead of replying to all with "g" or replying privately. Look at mutt's documentation concerning the subscribed lists variable and just add orca-list to it. Another item, you can source in various parts of mutt config files so if you have several primary accounts or whatever, you can have a shared common config like list subscriptions or other general mutt options. I also set up emacs as my editor of choice and added some customizations in .emacs to force word wrap mode on for my message creation. Now that the glue has dried over the years, I have a really tight e-mail system which I use in both speakup console and orca. - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIEJlYWSjv55S0LfERA9X1AKD+NKLBQru1nlwf4O7V1ZMEM25ulACgywYR KpZGrTkHTfLu2NYuWMp23Zo= =ieHH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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