Mutt and speech

Mutt and speech

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt.
It works pretty nicely with my various speech systems as is, but I was wondering 
as to other people's experiences.  Are there any features I should avoid  for accessibility reasons? 
I like being able to customize it, but the sheer number of options is daunting..
.
Any tips from more advanced users on this list?
Thanks,
Zack.

Re: Mutt and speech

[Gaijin]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt.
<End-Quote>

	Use it myself and love it.  I just wish I could find out how to
	make it set vim's text width setting to 72, so I don't have to
keep typing it in manually.  I like how it works with spamassassin, and
one of these days I'll read up on how to make it put things into folders
based on the "List-ID" header field.  It doesn't work well with the Orca
mailing list, though.  If you try to save a message, you always have to
call up the Mail directory and highlight the list's save file, or it
defaults to the user's mail address, making a large mess.  I sure wish
they'd fix that, because you can't even hit "r" to reply to the list,
rather than the mail's author.  PITA IMHO, and totally bassackwards.
Anyway, I can only suggest using  'ignore *' and 'unignore <headers to
unignore>' in the /etc/Muttrc file to weed headers.  Otherwise, you wind
up looking at 60+ lines of header information. <grins>  Took me awhile
to figure out how to save attachments.  Had to give SpeakUP a workout to
see what exactly was being displayed.

			Michael

Re: Mutt and speech

[Tyler Spivey]

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add "filetype on" without the quotes to your .vimrc. If you have the
correct vim, it and mutt should work automatically and automatically set
your textwidth to 72 by default.
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Re: Mutt and speech

[Ralph W. Reid]

I have not come across a particular option to avoid due to
accessibility concerns within Mutt.  There certainly are many things
to customize.  I have found that the Muttrc file is pretty well
documented itself.  I suggest trying things that look like they might
be interesting.  If you do not like the result, you can always put
things back the way they were (do keep backups of configurations you
like).

HTH, and have a great day.


On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt.
> It works pretty nicely with my various speech systems as is, but I was wondering 
> as to other people's experiences.  Are there any features I should avoid  for accessibility reasons? 
> I like being able to customize it, but the sheer number of options is daunting..
> .
> Any tips from more advanced users on this list?
> Thanks,
> Zack.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
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rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light...
CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r

Re: Mutt and speech

[Ralph W. Reid]

Could vim's text width be set in a .vimrc file or maybe in the
'editor=' setting by including a command line parameter for bim in
your Muttrc file?  I mostly use emacs these days, but I seem to recall
doing a lot with .vimrc files in the past.

HTH, and have a great day.

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:21:57PM -0700, Gaijin wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:32:19PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> > I'm quickly learning to really enjoy Mutt.
> <End-Quote>
> 
> 	Use it myself and love it.  I just wish I could find out how to
> 	make it set vim's text width setting to 72, so I don't have to
> keep typing it in manually.  I like how it works with spamassassin, and
> one of these days I'll read up on how to make it put things into folders
> based on the "List-ID" header field.  It doesn't work well with the Orca
> mailing list, though.  If you try to save a message, you always have to
> call up the Mail directory and highlight the list's save file, or it
> defaults to the user's mail address, making a large mess.  I sure wish
> they'd fix that, because you can't even hit "r" to reply to the list,
> rather than the mail's author.  PITA IMHO, and totally bassackwards.
> Anyway, I can only suggest using  'ignore *' and 'unignore <headers to
> unignore>' in the /etc/Muttrc file to weed headers.  Otherwise, you wind
> up looking at 60+ lines of header information. <grins>  Took me awhile
> to figure out how to save attachments.  Had to give SpeakUP a workout to
> see what exactly was being displayed.
> 
> 			Michael
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light...
CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r

Re: Mutt and speech

[Steve Holmes]

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Like what was said earlier, there aren't any options to think of that
really affect a11y.  But I have customized my detail lines for the
message list and the status line at the bottom to give me just what I
want to know concisely including how many messages are in each
thread.  I also tweaked the ignore commands to show a very brief
header summary at the top of my messages.  I'll tell you what, between
my .emacs and my .muttrc files, I cherish my config files and will
utterly go into dispare if I should ever lose them.:)

A couple other mutt notes: it is so configurable that I can pipe
message contents into firefox or elinks for full webifying of html
type messages or open the attachments window and play the attached
file with appropriate players.  To do all this, you need to mess with
mime types and mailcap files.  Mutt respects these files.  You can
also do a list-reply to "subscribed" lists so lists like Orca can be
replied to by doing a shift-L instead of replying to all with "g" or
replying privately.  Look at mutt's documentation concerning the
subscribed lists variable and just add orca-list to it.

Another item, you can source in various parts of mutt config files so
if you have several primary accounts or whatever, you can have a
shared common config like list subscriptions or other general mutt
options.  I also set up emacs as my editor of choice and added some
customizations in .emacs to force word wrap mode on for my message
creation.  Now that the glue has dried over the years, I have a really
tight e-mail system which I use in both speakup console and orca.
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