* Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup
@ Zachary Kline
` Gregory Nowak
` Littlefield, Tyler
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hiya,
I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with Speakup? I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing. I'm not sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian?
I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup. Would I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing?
Thanks,
Zack.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup Zachary Kline @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline ` Littlefield, Tyler 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To upgrade to testing, all you really need to do is to replace the stable word on every line of your /etc/apt/sources.list with the word testing. Then, just do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade. I can't really answer your kernel question, since I role my own. Greg On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:51AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hiya, > I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with Speakup? I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing. I'm not sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian? > I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup. Would I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing? > Thanks, > Zack. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZwFL7s9z/XlyUyARAuL5AJ9LXovQzNVz/VclfOnwShOM7YFTyACeKmgR 2ftuxa/FtZSuuAJpEsUAS2Y= =tjuq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Zachary Kline ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hiya, In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well. I believe I'd need kernel-package to make that a bit easier. Also, I'm a bit unsure about things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo. Might you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do to get a kernel that will boot? I've never had to deal with the vagueries of kernel-package and all that before. Thanks much, Zack. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > To upgrade to testing, all you really need to do is to replace the > stable word on every line of your /etc/apt/sources.list with the word > testing. Then, just do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade. > > I can't really answer your kernel question, since I role my own. > > Greg > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:51AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: >> Hiya, >> I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with >> Speakup? I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but >> don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing. I'm not >> sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian? >> I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup. Would >> I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing? >> Thanks, >> Zack. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGZwFL7s9z/XlyUyARAuL5AJ9LXovQzNVz/VclfOnwShOM7YFTyACeKmgR > 2ftuxa/FtZSuuAJpEsUAS2Y= > =tjuq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Zachary Kline @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run make-kpkg kernel_image. If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb, where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot. If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as well. This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web that cover this in much more detail. Greg On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hiya, > In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well. I believe I'd > need kernel-package to make that a bit easier. Also, I'm a bit unsure about > things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo. Might > you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do to > get a kernel that will boot? I've never had to deal with the vagueries of > kernel-package and all that before. > Thanks much, > Zack. > - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZwau7s9z/XlyUyARAgawAJ4lX7DZh64jkQM0MCzfuEF97QPgngCg2lCH 8AkB4bC/OEWTOPdvcrPSAW4= =wuuE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Zachary Kline ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hiya, Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel? I seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the like. Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this description seems to be enough for me to follow. I'd also need to add speakup patches, of course... Thanks, Zack. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I > don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things > like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system > you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to > boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make > oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run > > make-kpkg kernel_image. > > If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting > deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb, > where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need > to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done > for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping > your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot > back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot. > > If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your > old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as > well. > > This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web > that cover this in much more detail. > > Greg > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: >> Hiya, >> In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well. I believe >> I'd >> need kernel-package to make that a bit easier. Also, I'm a bit unsure >> about >> things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo. >> Might >> you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do >> to >> get a kernel that will boot? I've never had to deal with the vagueries >> of >> kernel-package and all that before. >> Thanks much, >> Zack. >> > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGZwau7s9z/XlyUyARAgawAJ4lX7DZh64jkQM0MCzfuEF97QPgngCg2lCH > 8AkB4bC/OEWTOPdvcrPSAW4= > =wuuE > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Zachary Kline @ ` Littlefield, Tyler ` Gregory Nowak ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, Where do you get the speakup patch? linux-speakup.org was down as of yesterday, and I was going to try to set up a kernel. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ [My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features] msn: compgeek13@gmail.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 vertigo head coder web: tysdomain.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup > Hiya, > Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel? I > seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the > like. Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this description > seems to be enough for me to follow. I'd also need to add speakup patches, > of course... > Thanks, > Zack. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I > > don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things > > like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system > > you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to > > boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make > > oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run > > > > make-kpkg kernel_image. > > > > If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting > > deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb, > > where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need > > to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done > > for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping > > your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot > > back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot. > > > > If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your > > old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as > > well. > > > > This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web > > that cover this in much more detail. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hiya, > >> In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well. I believe > >> I'd > >> need kernel-package to make that a bit easier. Also, I'm a bit unsure > >> about > >> things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo. > >> Might > >> you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do > >> to > >> get a kernel that will boot? I've never had to deal with the vagueries > >> of > >> kernel-package and all that before. > >> Thanks much, > >> Zack. > >> > > > > - -- > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > - -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFGZwau7s9z/XlyUyARAgawAJ4lX7DZh64jkQM0MCzfuEF97QPgngCg2lCH > > 8AkB4bC/OEWTOPdvcrPSAW4= > > =wuuE > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Littlefield, Tyler @ ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You get it from cvs. If cvs is down, then you wait until it comes back up, unless someone who knows how to create a tarball from cvs does so when cvs is up, and posts it somewhere. Greg On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 02:30:37PM -0600, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Hello, > Where do you get the speakup patch? linux-speakup.org was down as of > yesterday, and I was going to try to set up a kernel. > Thanks, > ~~TheCreator~~ > [My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features] > msn: > compgeek13@gmail.com > aim: st8amnd2005 > skype: st8amnd127 > vertigo head coder > web: tysdomain.com - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZxwb7s9z/XlyUyARAoYpAKC388q3z6nmx1EgWKovLUPcB/3tFACeOLM4 vpB+T7obsc3eV58E/4Rmjrw= =3VeW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup ` Zachary Kline ` Littlefield, Tyler @ ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I know there are debian-specific patches, but I never bothered with them. The only patch I apply to the sources from kernel.org is speakup. Greg On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 12:23:23PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hiya, > Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel? I > seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the > like. Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this description > seems to be enough for me to follow. I'd also need to add speakup patches, > of course... > Thanks, > Zack. > - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZxuU7s9z/XlyUyARAh37AKChGRLXxhTKnyBGQhwg5nsm9xRB0ACgqIZI WPCeVnB70rhJ8szhbZSCxpQ= =7sSz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup Zachary Kline ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Littlefield, Tyler 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Littlefield, Tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I just edit the sources.list, and replace stable with testing, run apt-get update, and then apt-get dist-upgrade, and it should work, just watch for what it removes. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ [My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features] msn: compgeek13@gmail.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 vertigo head coder web: tysdomain.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup > Hiya, > I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with Speakup? I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing. I'm not sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian? > I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup. Would I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing? > Thanks, > Zack. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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