Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Zachary Kline]

Hiya,
    I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with Speakup?  I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing.  I'm not sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian?  
    I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup.  Would I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing?
Thanks,
Zack.

Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Gregory Nowak]

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To upgrade to testing, all you really need to do is to replace the
stable word on every line of your /etc/apt/sources.list with the word
testing. Then, just do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade.

I can't really answer your kernel question, since I role my own.

Greg


On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:51AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hiya,
>     I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with Speakup?  I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing.  I'm not sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian?  
>     I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup.  Would I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing?
> Thanks,
> Zack.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Zachary Kline]

Hiya,
    In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well.  I believe I'd 
need kernel-package to make that a bit easier.  Also, I'm a bit unsure about 
things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo.  Might 
you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do to 
get a kernel that will boot?  I've never had to deal with the vagueries of 
kernel-package and all that before.
Thanks much,
Zack.

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup


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> To upgrade to testing, all you really need to do is to replace the
> stable word on every line of your /etc/apt/sources.list with the word
> testing. Then, just do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade.
>
> I can't really answer your kernel question, since I role my own.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:35:51AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> Hiya,
>>     I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with 
>> Speakup?  I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but 
>> don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing.  I'm not 
>> sure if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian?
>>     I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup.  Would 
>> I need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing?
>> Thanks,
>> Zack.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Gregory Nowak]

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You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I
don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things
like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system
you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to
boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make
oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run

make-kpkg kernel_image.

If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting
deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb,
where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need
to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done
for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping
your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot
back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot.

If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your
old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as
well.

This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web
that cover this in much more detail.

Greg



On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hiya,
>     In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well.  I believe I'd 
> need kernel-package to make that a bit easier.  Also, I'm a bit unsure about 
> things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo.  Might 
> you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do to 
> get a kernel that will boot?  I've never had to deal with the vagueries of 
> kernel-package and all that before.
> Thanks much,
> Zack.
> 

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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Zachary Kline]

Hiya,
    Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel?  I 
seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the 
like.  Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this description 
seems to be enough for me to follow.  I'd also need to add speakup patches, 
of course...
Thanks,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup


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> You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I
> don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things
> like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system
> you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to
> boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make
> oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run
>
> make-kpkg kernel_image.
>
> If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting
> deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb,
> where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need
> to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done
> for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping
> your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot
> back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot.
>
> If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your
> old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as
> well.
>
> This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web
> that cover this in much more detail.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> Hiya,
>>     In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well.  I believe 
>> I'd
>> need kernel-package to make that a bit easier.  Also, I'm a bit unsure 
>> about
>> things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo. 
>> Might
>> you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do 
>> to
>> get a kernel that will boot?  I've never had to deal with the vagueries 
>> of
>> kernel-package and all that before.
>> Thanks much,
>> Zack.
>>
>
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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Littlefield, Tyler]

I just edit the sources.list, and replace stable with testing, run apt-get
update, and then apt-get dist-upgrade, and it should work, just watch for
what it removes.
Thanks,
~~TheCreator~~
[My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features]
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup


> Hiya,
>     I was wondering how to upgrade Debian Etch 4.0R0 to Testing with
Speakup?  I've got the NetInst stuff from people.debian.org/~shane, but
don't know if kernel 2.6.18 is the latest version in Testing.  I'm not sure
if I want to run a mixed distribution: is this common with Debian?
>     I know that none of the official Deb kernels contain Speakup.  Would I
need to roll my own if I wanted to upgrade to Testing?
> Thanks,
> Zack.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hello,
Where do you get the speakup patch? linux-speakup.org was down as of
yesterday, and I was going to try to set up a kernel.
Thanks,
~~TheCreator~~
[My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features]
msn:
compgeek13@gmail.com
aim: st8amnd2005
skype: st8amnd127
vertigo head coder
web: tysdomain.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup


> Hiya,
>     Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel?
I
> seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the
> like.  Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this
description
> seems to be enough for me to follow.  I'd also need to add speakup
patches,
> of course...
> Thanks,
> Zack.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup
>
>
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> > You don't need an initrd if you don't want to use one, I
> > don't. However, if you go without an initrd, make sure that things
> > like your ide/sata chipset, and hd support and the root file system
> > you use are built into the kernel itself, else you won't be able to
> > boot. Then, install kernel-package, untar the kernel sources, run make
> > oldconfig/config/menuconfig, and then run
> >
> > make-kpkg kernel_image.
> >
> > If you were building in /usr/src/linux for example, then the resulting
> > deb will be in /usr/src. Then, install it with dpkg -i package.deb,
> > where package.deb is the file kernel-package created. Then you'll need
> > to add the new image to your boot loader, this may or may not be done
> > for you when you install the package. I'd strongly suggest keeping
> > your current kernel in the boot loader as well, so that you can boot
> > back with it if your new kernel panics and doesn't boot. Then reboot.
> >
> > If the new kernel works like you'd expect, then you can remove your
> > old kernel from your system, and from the boot loader of course as
> > well.
> >
> > This is a very brief description, there are howtos and docs on the web
> > that cover this in much more detail.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:58:04AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> >> Hiya,
> >>     In that case, I can probably roll my own kernel as well.  I believe
> >> I'd
> >> need kernel-package to make that a bit easier.  Also, I'm a bit unsure
> >> about
> >> things like initial ram disks--I never needed an initrd with Gentoo.
> >> Might
> >> you be able to provide some instructions on what exactly I'd need to do
> >> to
> >> get a kernel that will boot?  I've never had to deal with the vagueries
> >> of
> >> kernel-package and all that before.
> >> Thanks much,
> >> Zack.
> >>
> >
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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Gregory Nowak]

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I know there are debian-specific patches, but I never bothered with
them. The only patch I apply to the sources from kernel.org is
speakup.

Greg



On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 12:23:23PM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hiya,
>     Are their any Debian-specific patches I need to apply to the kernel?  I 
> seem to remember that their was a package named 'debian-patches', or the 
> like.  Just want to be sure to cover all the bases, though this description 
> seems to be enough for me to follow.  I'd also need to add speakup patches, 
> of course...
> Thanks,
> Zack.
> 

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Re: Upgrading Debian to Testing with speakup

[Gregory Nowak]

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You get it from cvs. If cvs is down, then you wait until it comes back
up, unless someone who knows how to create a tarball from cvs does so
when cvs is up, and posts it somewhere.

Greg



On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 02:30:37PM -0600, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> Hello,
> Where do you get the speakup patch? linux-speakup.org was down as of
> yesterday, and I was going to try to set up a kernel.
> Thanks,
> ~~TheCreator~~
> [My programs don't have bugs; just randomly added features]
> msn:
> compgeek13@gmail.com
> aim: st8amnd2005
> skype: st8amnd127
> vertigo head coder
> web: tysdomain.com

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