trplayer and debian 2.6.18

trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Jude DaShiell]

These two are no longer compatible because trplayer wants an earlier 
version of libstdc++ that's no longer supported on kernel 2.6.18 and 
conflicts with several packages when an installation attempt is made. 
The source of trplayer I downloaded was looking for version 3 of the 
library but version 6 is what's now in use.

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Kirk Reiser]

Yeah Jude, I think most of us have moved over to using mplayer or even
helix works to some degree.  I'm fond of mplayer myself.

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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:23:33AM +0100, Doug Smith wrote:
> You're right.  mplayer totally rocks.  It seems to handle anything
> from simple .au files to movie disks.  I have not yet found an audio
> format it won't handle. 

I have, namely, that of quicktime .mov files. Having said that though,
I still do think that mplayer is a piece of very good advanced
software.

Greg




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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Sutherland]

Mplayer does support quicktime mov files.
I just played one to be sure, and it's listed here:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/info.html

However, I think MOV is really a "container" codec
with other codecs within it (AIFF, CDDA, MIDI, MPEG4, etc)
similar to microsoft AVI, which isn't really a format in itself,
you still need the codec support for what is stuffed inside.
Perhaps that might explain why sometimes MOV will work
and sometimes not, depending on the codec support.

In any event, this famous MOV works for me on mplayer
http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/graphics/movies/1984.mov

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Gregory Nowak]

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Ok. I did try playing movs about a year and a half ago or so, and they
didn't work for me back then. I don't have those files anymore, so
can't test now. Also, I was under the impression that .mov files were
quicktime files, I didn't know they could be a container format like
.avi is for example.

Greg


On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:16:23PM -0500, Doug Sutherland wrote:
> Mplayer does support quicktime mov files.
> I just played one to be sure, and it's listed here:
> 
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/info.html
> 
> However, I think MOV is really a "container" codec
> with other codecs within it (AIFF, CDDA, MIDI, MPEG4, etc)
> similar to microsoft AVI, which isn't really a format in itself,
> you still need the codec support for what is stuffed inside.
> Perhaps that might explain why sometimes MOV will work
> and sometimes not, depending on the codec support.
> 
> In any event, this famous MOV works for me on mplayer
> http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/graphics/movies/1984.mov
> 
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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Sutherland]

This is a fairly decent overview of the quicktime format
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Kirk Reiser]

Well, there is one format it won't play or at least I haven't figured
out how to make it play flash .swf files.  I have played with a
package called swftools but have never successfully managed to play
anything.  In anyevent mplayer won't play them.

  Kirk

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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Sutherland]

I haven't figured out how to play shockwave swf files on
linux, but this weekend I discovered an online converter
for flash video flv files. I have been ripping a bunch of
great music from youtube into mp3 using this site:

http://vixy.net/

It seems that most flash files are FLV rather than SWF
these days anyways. I have adobe flash player playing
FLV in opera and firefox as streams, but that vixy site
is a quick way to capture just the audio as mp3 or the
video as MP4, MOV, or even 3GP for phones.

Linux multimedia has come a long way in recent years.

  -- Doug

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Alex Snow]

Lately I've been using youtube-dl to grab  videos from youtube, then 
mplayer to play them/mencoder to reencode them.  I'm using the latest 
version of mplayer, don't remember what that is off the top of my 
head, and the full win32codecs package.
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 
09:32:45PM -0500, Doug Sutherland wrote:
> I haven't figured out how to play shockwave swf files on
> linux, but this weekend I discovered an online converter
> for flash video flv files. I have been ripping a bunch of
> great music from youtube into mp3 using this site:
> 
> http://vixy.net/
> 
> It seems that most flash files are FLV rather than SWF
> these days anyways. I have adobe flash player playing
> FLV in opera and firefox as streams, but that vixy site
> is a quick way to capture just the audio as mp3 or the
> video as MP4, MOV, or even 3GP for phones.
> 
> Linux multimedia has come a long way in recent years.
> 
>   -- Doug
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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Smith]

You're right.  mplayer totally rocks.  It seems to handle anything
from simple .au files to movie disks.  I have not yet found an audio
format it won't handle.  The best bet is to change to mplayer.  It's
easy to install and get started with.  Just download, grab the codecs
packages, open out the codecs, place that directory in the right
place, open out the mplayer archive, configure, build and install.
That is all.  Just call mplayer on the file you want, and you will be
pleasantly surprised.  



Just give it a try.  I will gladly help you with it.  




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Computer Scientist For CHRIST

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:46:12AM +0100, Doug Smith wrote:
> By the way, what is the configuration setting you use to have gpg
> encode a message with a hash, then put a signature on it when you send
> it.  I might want to do that.  
> 

The document I originally used to do this, which has since moved is
currently at:

http://codesorcery.net/old/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto

There is also a mutt and gnupg howto which is a part of the tldp,
which I haven't looked at. You can find that at:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mutt-GnuPG-PGP-HOWTO.html

. Alternatively, if you've installed the doc/howto/whatever your
distro calls it package, you should be able to find a local copy in
plain text, and perhaps in other formats. On my debian system, that
particular howto lives in

/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Mutt-GnuPG-PGP-HOWTO.gz

. I believe this is doable under pine as well, though I'm the wrong
person to ask about that.

Hth.

Greg




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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Smith]

Ok,  quicktime .mov files.  I have never encountered one of those.
You have just found something I have never messed with.  

By the way, what is the configuration setting you use to have gpg
encode a message with a hash, then put a signature on it when you send
it.  I might want to do that.  



Thanks. 




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Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Doug Smith]

Ok, thanks.  I might want to do this in the future, Especially, when I
get my own system.  I am currently borrowing a friend's rig, and I
really need to build my web site, write a javascript interpreter for
all text-based browsers, complete a program that will allow Blind
people, the world over, access to the latest form of the DAISY talking
book.  When I get all this done, I might look into that.  I just
wondered how it is done, and I appreciate your help very much. 



Thank you very much. 




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Computer Scientist For CHRIST

best use of resources

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

Before you spend time on these projects, you might want to look at
existing code.  consider the case of elinks and links2.  The javascript
support in links2 was written from scratch.  By the time it was
finnished, it was out of date.  Also, links2 is missing several features
need to support modern web standards.  When the developers of elinks
wanted to add javascript support, they learned from links2 and decided
to use an existing javascript engine (spidermonkey).
This allowed them to focus on integrating javascript support without
writing a lot of code from scratch.  Since elinks already had support
for css and other standards, elinks will become a better choice for a
text browzer than links2 or lynx.  The javascript support in elinks
isn't finished yet, but you might want to consider helping with that
instead of starting over.  Remember, once you have a javascript
interpreter, you will still need to add it to an existing browzer.

I haven't looked at Daisy players yet, but there are already some
available.  They will probably need to be updated, but updating an
existing player might be easier than writing one from scratch.

          Kenny

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:59:45AM +0100, Doug Smith wrote:
> Ok, thanks.  I might want to do this in the future, Especially, when I
> get my own system.  I am currently borrowing a friend's rig, and I
> really need to build my web site, write a javascript interpreter for
> all text-based browsers, complete a program that will allow Blind
> people, the world over, access to the latest form of the DAISY talking
> book.  When I get all this done, I might look into that.  I just
> wondered how it is done, and I appreciate your help very much. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you very much. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Doug Smith: C.S.F.C.
> Computer Scientist For CHRIST
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________

Re: trplayer and debian 2.6.18

[Gene Collins]

Hey Doug, you might want to talk to Kirk about some of these projects,
since he already has some of those things in the works.  You can check
out http://www.linux-speakup.org/ to see some projects he has on the go.

Gene

>Ok, thanks.  I might want to do this in the future, Especially, when I
>get my own system.  I am currently borrowing a friend's rig, and I
>really need to build my web site, write a javascript interpreter for
>all text-based browsers, complete a program that will allow Blind
>people, the world over, access to the latest form of the DAISY talking
>book.  When I get all this done, I might look into that.  I just
>wondered how it is done, and I appreciate your help very much. 
>
>
>
>Thank you very much. 
>
>
>
>
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>Computer Scientist For CHRIST
>
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