* help with linux installation @ TheCreator ` Ralph W. Reid 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: TheCreator @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello list, I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck. Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't get any farther. Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both. I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot. Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm using an ssh connection. Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ Check out our new and improved site: http://tysplace.shaned.net "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: help with linux installation help with linux installation TheCreator @ ` Ralph W. Reid ` TheCreator 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware distribution. What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk which could not find your hard drive? Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'? After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as 'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'? Which version of Slackware have you tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA, SATA, SCSI, something else)? I will try to check my email for this list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be able to help answer. HTH and have a great day. On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote: > Hello list, > I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck. > Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't get any farther. > Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both. > I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot. > Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and > running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my > mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm > using an ssh connection. > > > Thanks, > ~~TheCreator~~ > Check out our new and improved site: > http://tysplace.shaned.net > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy." -- Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light! PARABOLA = x ^ 2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: help with linux installation ` Ralph W. Reid @ ` TheCreator ` Gregory Nowak ` Ralph W. Reid 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: TheCreator @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, Sorry this is delayed. Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow. Also, what does slack use for a package manager? I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search... Thanks,At 09:36 AM 12/19/06, you wrote: >My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware >distribution. What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk >which could not find your hard drive? Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'? >After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try >looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as >'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'? Which version of Slackware have you >tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA, >SATA, SCSI, something else)? I will try to check my email for this >list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be >able to help answer. > >HTH and have a great day. > >On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote: > > Hello list, > > I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck. > > Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't > get any farther. > > Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both. > > I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot. > > Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and > > running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my > > mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm > > using an ssh connection. > > > > > > Thanks, > > ~~TheCreator~~ > > Check out our new and improved site: > > http://tysplace.shaned.net > > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." > > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." > > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all > that are crazy." > >-- >Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. >rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid >...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light! >PARABOLA = x ^ 2 > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup Thanks, ~~TheCreator~~ Check out our new and improved site: http://tysplace.shaned.net "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: help with linux installation ` TheCreator @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Ralph W. Reid 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Slackware uses installpkg, and removepkg to install and remove packages. As for apt-cache search, the slackware equivalent there is either the slackware distribution archive, or google. Slackware packages are more or less tar.gz files. Also, if you're going to use slackware, then you'd better get used to building most of what you need from source. Greg On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:13:39PM -0700, TheCreator wrote: > Hello, > Sorry this is delayed. > Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow. > Also, what does slack use for a package manager? > I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search... > Thanks, - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFiXx17s9z/XlyUyARAnEMAJ4iU6AD832B8bl3I+9DOajAES43tgCdGs9J 7oCfr0DriRltsX/p1xhIWvo= =ydg3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: help with linux installation ` TheCreator ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Ralph W. Reid 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. For the initial installation, setting up hard drive partitions with 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk', and then running 'setup' and following the menus and instructions will get the job done. When running setup, you might want to mute speech while the packages are being uncompressed and installed from the CDROM's, DVD, or hard drive directory--lots of text is generated as ever-single-package-description is displayed as the packages are installed. For upgrading packages, I use 'rsync' to get the packages from the 'patches/packages' directory from a Slackware mirror site, and then upgrade any changed packages with 'upgradepkg *z' from within that packages directory. Other programs in the package management package include 'installpkg', 'removepkg', and 'pkgtool'. Others here may use an alternate technique for upgrading packages such as using the package browser at http://packages.slackware.it or by monitoring the change log. HTH, and have a great day. On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:13:39PM -0700, TheCreator wrote: > Hello, > Sorry this is delayed. > Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow. > Also, what does slack use for a package manager? > I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search... > Thanks,At 09:36 AM 12/19/06, you wrote: > >My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware > >distribution. What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk > >which could not find your hard drive? Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'? > >After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try > >looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as > >'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'? Which version of Slackware have you > >tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA, > >SATA, SCSI, something else)? I will try to check my email for this > >list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be > >able to help answer. > > > >HTH and have a great day. > > > >On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck. > > > Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't > > get any farther. > > > Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both. > > > I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot. > > > Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and > > > running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my > > > mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm > > > using an ssh connection. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > ~~TheCreator~~ > > > Check out our new and improved site: > > > http://tysplace.shaned.net > > > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." > > > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." > > > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all > > that are crazy." > > > >-- > >Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. > >rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid > >...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light! > >PARABOLA = x ^ 2 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > Thanks, > ~~TheCreator~~ > Check out our new and improved site: > http://tysplace.shaned.net > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows." > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy." > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O. rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light! CIRCLE AREA = _pi * r ^ 2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* help with linux installation @ Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On slackware, try running cfdisk and don't give it any command line parameters. If cfdisk can't find any hard drive, likely one of three things has happened. First and most likely your cmos got hosed and needs restoring. Second your cdrom drive somehow got disconnected inside the computer, was anyone to your knowledge inside that computer case lately and if so doing what? Third, your cdrom drive needs replacing or cleaning. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* re: help with linux installation @ Jude DaShiell ` Garrett Klein 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Slackware uses a package called swared for package management. The last release of it was in 2004 but it still does work with slackware 11.0 and likely will work into the future. If you use that package manager edit its configuration file and specify 11 for the version or current for the version you want to maintain on your system before running the package for the first time and you should be good to go. Other package managers for slackware did exist but they've fallen by the wayside due to lack of maintenance. Some of them have hard limits on what version you can upgrade to built into them believe it or not! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: help with linux installation Jude DaShiell @ ` Garrett Klein 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, I believe slapt-get still exists and is current. It's basically apt-get for slackware (with the exception that most of what you want is in third-party packages. Garrett On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:40:08PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Slackware uses a package called swared for package management. The last > release of it was in 2004 but it still does work with slackware 11.0 and > likely will work into the future. If you use that package manager edit > its configuration file and specify 11 for the version or current for the > version you want to maintain on your system before running the package for > the first time and you should be good to go. Other package managers for > slackware did exist but they've fallen by the wayside due to lack of > maintenance. Some of them have hard limits on what version you can > upgrade to built into them believe it or not! > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* re: help with linux installation @ Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Anyone doing a slackware installation will likely find http://www.linuxpackages..net a real helpful site. They're slackware-centric when it comes to what packages are available for download and they have a few you won't find on the slackware home page to download. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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