help with linux installation

help with linux installation

[TheCreator]

Hello list,
I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck.
Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't get any farther.
Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both.
I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot.
Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and 
running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my 
mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm 
using an ssh connection.


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Re: help with linux installation

[Ralph W. Reid]

My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware
distribution.  What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk
which could not find your hard drive?  Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'?
After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try
looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as
'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'?  Which version of Slackware have you
tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA,
SATA, SCSI, something else)?  I will try to check my email for this
list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be
able to help answer.

HTH and have a great day.

On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote:
> Hello list,
> I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck.
> Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't get any farther.
> Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both.
> I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot.
> Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and 
> running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my 
> mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm 
> using an ssh connection.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> ~~TheCreator~~
> Check out our new and improved site:
> http://tysplace.shaned.net
> "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
> "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows."
> "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy."

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Re: help with linux installation

[TheCreator]

Hello,
Sorry this is delayed.
Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow.
Also, what does slack use for a package manager?
I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search...
Thanks,At 09:36 AM 12/19/06, you wrote:
>My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware
>distribution.  What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk
>which could not find your hard drive?  Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'?
>After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try
>looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as
>'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'?  Which version of Slackware have you
>tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA,
>SATA, SCSI, something else)?  I will try to check my email for this
>list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be
>able to help answer.
>
>HTH and have a great day.
>
>On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck.
> > Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't 
> get any farther.
> > Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both.
> > I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot.
> > Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and
> > running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my
> > mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm
> > using an ssh connection.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~~TheCreator~~
> > Check out our new and improved site:
> > http://tysplace.shaned.net
> > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
> > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows."
> > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all 
> that are crazy."
>
>--
>Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
>rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
>...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light!
>PARABOLA = x ^ 2
>
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Thanks,
~~TheCreator~~
Check out our new and improved site:
http://tysplace.shaned.net
"My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
"Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows."
"Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy."

Re: help with linux installation

[Gregory Nowak]

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Slackware uses installpkg, and removepkg to install and remove
packages. As for apt-cache search, the slackware equivalent there is
either the slackware distribution archive, or google. Slackware
packages are more or less tar.gz files. 

Also, if you're going to use slackware, then you'd better get used to
building most of what you need from source.

Greg


On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:13:39PM -0700, TheCreator wrote:
> Hello,
> Sorry this is delayed.
> Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow.
> Also, what does slack use for a package manager?
> I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search...
> Thanks,


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Re: help with linux installation

[Ralph W. Reid]

For the initial installation, setting up hard drive partitions with
'fdisk' or 'cfdisk', and then running 'setup' and following the menus
and instructions will get the job done.  When running setup, you might
want to mute speech while the packages are being uncompressed and
installed from the CDROM's, DVD, or hard drive directory--lots of text
is generated as ever-single-package-description is displayed as the
packages are installed.

For upgrading packages, I use 'rsync' to get the packages from the
'patches/packages' directory from a Slackware mirror site, and then
upgrade any changed packages with 'upgradepkg *z' from within that
packages directory.  Other programs in the package management package
include 'installpkg', 'removepkg', and 'pkgtool'.  Others here may use
an alternate technique for upgrading packages such as using the
package browser at http://packages.slackware.it or by monitoring the
change log.

HTH, and have a great day.


On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:13:39PM -0700, TheCreator wrote:
> Hello,
> Sorry this is delayed.
> Unfortunately I just got to the computer. I'll try that tomorrow.
> Also, what does slack use for a package manager?
> I'm used to apt-get or apt-cache search...
> Thanks,At 09:36 AM 12/19/06, you wrote:
> >My experience is with Slackware, so I will focus on the Slackware
> >distribution.  What command line parameter(s) did you use with fdisk
> >which could not find your hard drive?  Did you enter 'fdisk /dev/hda'?
> >After booting wiht the installation diskettes or CDROM or DVD, try
> >looking in the /proc/ide directory--do you see any drive names such as
> >'hda', 'hdb', 'hdc', or 'hdd'?  Which version of Slackware have you
> >tried, and what type of hard drive does the computer contain (ATA,
> >SATA, SCSI, something else)?  I will try to check my email for this
> >list throughout the day in case you have further questions I might be
> >able to help answer.
> >
> >HTH and have a great day.
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 04:49:49PM -0700, TheCreator wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > > I've tried to install deb and slack, and I'm not having much luck.
> > > Debian informs me that it can't mount my cd drive, and I can't 
> > get any farther.
> > > Slack says that it can't open the harddrive, with cfdisk and fdisk both.
> > > I also tried using the deb floppies, from which my computer will not boot.
> > > Any ideas are really helpfull, I'm trying to get at least ssh up and
> > > running on deb before wednesday, because I've got to go stay with my
> > > mom for a while, and can't get to the computer itself unless I'm
> > > using an ssh connection.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ~~TheCreator~~
> > > Check out our new and improved site:
> > > http://tysplace.shaned.net
> > > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
> > > "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows."
> > > "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all 
> > that are crazy."
> >
> >--
> >Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
> >rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> >...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light!
> >PARABOLA = x ^ 2
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> Thanks,
> ~~TheCreator~~
> Check out our new and improved site:
> http://tysplace.shaned.net
> "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
> "Failure is not an option; it comes bundled with windows."
> "Dont call me crazy, because I'm totally sain, and its you all that are crazy."
> 
> 
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Re: help with linux installation

[Garrett Klein]

Hello,

I believe slapt-get still exists and is current. It's basically apt-get
for slackware (with the exception that most of what you want is in
third-party packages.

Garrett

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:40:08PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Slackware uses a package called swared for package management.  The last 
> release of it was in 2004 but it still does work with slackware 11.0 and 
> likely will work into the future.  If you use that package manager edit 
> its configuration file and specify 11 for the version or current for the 
> version you want to maintain on your system before running the package for 
> the first time and you should be good to go.  Other package managers for 
> slackware did exist but they've fallen by the wayside due to lack of 
> maintenance.  Some of them have hard limits on what version you can 
> upgrade to built into them believe it or not!
> 
> 
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re: help with linux installation

[Jude DaShiell]

Anyone doing a slackware installation will likely find 
http://www.linuxpackages..net a real helpful site.  They're 
slackware-centric when it comes to what packages are available for 
download and they have a few you won't find on the slackware home page to 
download.

re: help with linux installation

[Jude DaShiell]

Slackware uses a package called swared for package management.  The last 
release of it was in 2004 but it still does work with slackware 11.0 and 
likely will work into the future.  If you use that package manager edit 
its configuration file and specify 11 for the version or current for the 
version you want to maintain on your system before running the package for 
the first time and you should be good to go.  Other package managers for 
slackware did exist but they've fallen by the wayside due to lack of 
maintenance.  Some of them have hard limits on what version you can 
upgrade to built into them believe it or not!

help with linux installation

[Jude DaShiell]

On slackware, try running cfdisk and don't give it any command line 
parameters.  If cfdisk can't find any hard drive, likely one of three 
things has happened.  First and most likely your cmos got hosed and needs 
restoring.  Second your cdrom drive somehow got disconnected inside the 
computer, was anyone to your knowledge inside that computer case lately 
and if so doing what?  Third, your cdrom drive needs replacing or 
cleaning.