* File system erase the softsynth device @ Jan Buchal ` Chris Norman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jan Buchal @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a. screen review system for Linux. Hello, I use kernel 2.6.18 and last cvs snapshot of speakup. patching, compilation and installing was OK. I create by hand in /dev device softsynth and If I run modprobe speakup_sftsyn and started speechd-up, speakup works OK. But if I rebooted the speakup frozen and Linux not started. If I remove loading of speakup module then Linux started but in /dev was not the softsynth device. Probably the udev erased it. Any solution? Thanks. -- Jan Buchal Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008 Mob: (00420) 608023021 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: File system erase the softsynth device File system erase the softsynth device Jan Buchal @ ` Chris Norman ` Jan Buchal 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Chris Norman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Put the mknod command in your rc.local file (or your distribution's equivilant). HTH, Chris Norman <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk --> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Buchal" <buchal@brailcom.org> To: "Speakup is a. screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: File system erase the softsynth device > Hello, > > I use kernel 2.6.18 and last cvs snapshot of speakup. patching, > compilation and installing was OK. > > I create by hand in /dev device softsynth and If I run modprobe > speakup_sftsyn and started speechd-up, speakup works OK. But if I > rebooted the speakup frozen and Linux not started. If I remove loading > of speakup module then Linux started but in /dev was not the softsynth > device. Probably the udev erased it. > > Any solution? > > Thanks. > > -- > > Jan Buchal > Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008 > Mob: (00420) 608023021 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` Chris Norman @ ` Jan Buchal ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jan Buchal @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>>> "CN" == Chris Norman <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> writes: CN> Put the mknod command in your rc.local file (or your CN> distribution's equivilant). Hello, that's not so easy. I tried it already but without good result. The problem from my point of view is, that udev is too intelligent. :-) I have udev version 0.100 on my Debian and I see that is mounted udev on /dev . In older version is mounted tmpfs on /dev I do not know why but maybe it is not so important. I think that would be best when speakup will create the softsynth dynamically through udev. Best. -- Jan Buchal Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008 Mob: (00420) 608023021 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` Jan Buchal @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. I don't try to create the softsynth device. I just let udev create it when I switch to sftsyn. The same is true on my systems for the /dev/synth device. /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup. Kenny ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Steve Holmes ` Igor Gueths ` udev, was: " Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here. When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major changes with upgrading it. I see on one of my boxes that udev as a package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution; so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow. Is it a good thing to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18 when I get around to it:). On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > I don't try to create the softsynth device. I just let udev create it > when I switch to sftsyn. The same is true on my systems for the > /dev/synth device. /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup. > > Kenny > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFPhjjWSjv55S0LfERA9LCAKDH9zNUHKO7LMSuhG3Rio378geR7gCgi31L XbJ9BefvJDjSx8JnMpTkvNI= =om/y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` Steve Holmes @ ` Igor Gueths ` udev, was: " Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Steve. Udev can be thought of as the next generation of hotplugging. Instead of having shell scripts that manage devices based on kernel events, you now have a daemon that can do so, given rules in one or more configuration files. On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 06:45:07AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about > udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here. > When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major > changes with upgrading it. I see on one of my boxes that udev as a > package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution; > so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow. Is it a good thing > to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18 > when I get around to it:). > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I don't try to create the softsynth device. I just let udev create it > > when I switch to sftsyn. The same is true on my systems for the > > /dev/synth device. /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup. > > > > Kenny > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > - -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://holmesgrown.ld.net/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFPhjjWSjv55S0LfERA9LCAKDH9zNUHKO7LMSuhG3Rio378geR7gCgi31L > XbJ9BefvJDjSx8JnMpTkvNI= > =om/y > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > - -- For an IRC experience without all the clutter, check out BOFHNet at irc.bofhnet.us. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBRT4dYKe2pgKIdGq4AQo6WRAAiFWKRt5ZQWWPOUzjjZ5h+2otGX5jcM1R l92li8+0piOLf0c6hLSS2hC+StW0PpXtNp53l24buScEpD3f2bkKPomC00vaDyIe w77Vqu7vRW6T/U4BEodjexgMSs98ylbNKAW7yN/c4RIYB/dFyvwR8RIrGyb/C30c 25pVt8C7fvl+CVyVQXC/cfNLXq/Y39bevdI0wEWEc8SCtY1+a6SC2UZe6kpMRlxO zDXnV5LKhkeNcwe7/wRqCsBFzQI5qzpiNzRnyqplVLv67O4nIYwHW8v7SzR0k4jv 3pWBBdY7LuWvxbw5rryXnKKJya+Zp6+QSzBwj75dS1NSgbJH+yFLwPVv5GGjngB7 6/nqaTAr6NEV634tQmfXQCaHSx/lWcaYtLNE/8EIgj0w8sC+TzP6UXNH3BwLOp6z xLtN4MZx3Vrq6Wfup7xTFBnT0lgdfLIxgp8v5ukcW0G+BhNKIS5U7BfCCWpRMF+P pov1JuPyxf6kgoxZcJbsRPYhL3JX/hFXAfByMoERNoDHl8z0aA9ivPhC6roIdbv6 2R5LtwuzfyDA791A/swTki3U8S4JCovt0iElj33WAOQMd0PXv+hT9L44iNdLM+Z1 sbQOHnB4F+tjlTTyvsJlg+m5YwOUCrKAFOizee/YmnGHdHDNmzxCFlnwjoMgGj8x yOdr/9/LmXc= =NlkG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* udev, was: Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` Steve Holmes ` Igor Gueths @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Chuck Hallenbeck 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I personally don't like it. When I decided to try it one time, most of my hardware was non-functional after boot, until I loaded the modules by hand, upon which the hardware was functional, and /dev was populated. Since I prefer to have functioning hardware after boot, without loading modules for everything by hand, rather then having a customized /dev directory, I went back to using hotplug under debian testing, currently running linux 2.6.18, and have been happily doing so ever since. I must admit however, that when I tried it, I didn't have the time to read up on it, and was expecting udev to work out of the box, just as hotplug has for me. That's just my opinion, based on my quick and undetailed experience, so take it for what it's worth. Greg On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 06:45:07AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about > udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here. > When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major > changes with upgrading it. I see on one of my boxes that udev as a > package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution; > so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow. Is it a good thing > to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18 > when I get around to it:). > - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFPkUb7s9z/XlyUyARAgpFAKDCuKNI7YB7npXGsXbPepkiPusK8gCgmC5f w1SyURlXQ9OBxtfZlTBGRR0= =QbXX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: udev, was: Re: File system erase the softsynth device ` udev, was: " Gregory Nowak @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I am running Debian unstable, and some time ago when my routine upgrades suggested it, I let it switch from hotplug to udev, and it went smoothly, no problems. I don't have a /dev/softsynth at the moment, since I am using my ltlk, but the moment I switch to software speech, /dev/softsynth is created automatically, and the change over is smooth. I am also using 2.6.18 here. -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (6% of Full) Only 10 kinds of people: those who do binary, and those who do not. But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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