File system erase the softsynth device

File system erase the softsynth device

[Jan Buchal]

Hello,

I use kernel 2.6.18 and last cvs snapshot of speakup. patching,
compilation and installing was OK.

I create by hand in /dev device softsynth and If I run modprobe
speakup_sftsyn and started speechd-up, speakup works OK. But if I
rebooted the speakup frozen and Linux not started. If I remove loading
of speakup module then Linux started but in /dev was not the softsynth
device. Probably the udev erased it.

Any solution?

Thanks.

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Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Chris Norman]

Put the mknod command in your rc.local file (or your distribution's 
equivilant).

HTH,

Chris Norman
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From: "Jan Buchal" <buchal@brailcom.org>
To: "Speakup is a. screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: File system erase the softsynth device


> Hello,
>
> I use kernel 2.6.18 and last cvs snapshot of speakup. patching,
> compilation and installing was OK.
>
> I create by hand in /dev device softsynth and If I run modprobe
> speakup_sftsyn and started speechd-up, speakup works OK. But if I
> rebooted the speakup frozen and Linux not started. If I remove loading
> of speakup module then Linux started but in /dev was not the softsynth
> device. Probably the udev erased it.
>
> Any solution?
>
> Thanks.
>
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>
> Jan Buchal
> Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008
> Mob: (00420) 608023021
>
>
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Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Jan Buchal]

>>>>> "CN" == Chris Norman <cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk> writes:

    CN> Put the mknod command in your rc.local file (or your
    CN> distribution's equivilant).

Hello,

that's not so easy. I tried it already but without good result. The
problem from my point of view is, that udev is too intelligent. :-) I
have udev version 0.100 on my Debian and I see that is mounted udev on
/dev . In older version is mounted tmpfs on /dev I do not know why but
maybe it is not so important.

I think that would be best when speakup will create the softsynth
dynamically through udev.

Best.



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Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

I don't try to create the softsynth device.  I just let udev create it
when I switch to sftsyn.  The same is true on my systems for the
/dev/synth device.  /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup.

          Kenny

Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Steve Holmes]

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This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about
udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here.
When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major
changes with upgrading it.  I see on one of my boxes that udev as a
package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution;
so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow.  Is it a good thing
to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18
when I get around to it:).

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I don't try to create the softsynth device.  I just let udev create it
> when I switch to sftsyn.  The same is true on my systems for the
> /dev/synth device.  /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

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Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi Steve. Udev can be thought of as the next generation of hotplugging. Instead of having shell scripts that manage devices based on kernel events, you now have a daemon that can do so, given 
rules in one or more configuration files. 
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> This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about
> udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here.
> When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major
> changes with upgrading it.  I see on one of my boxes that udev as a
> package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution;
> so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow.  Is it a good thing
> to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18
> when I get around to it:).
> 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I don't try to create the softsynth device.  I just let udev create it
> > when I switch to sftsyn.  The same is true on my systems for the
> > /dev/synth device.  /dev/synth gets created by udev when I load speakup.
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 
> > 
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
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udev, was: Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Gregory Nowak]

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I personally don't like it. When I decided to try it one time, most of
my hardware was non-functional after boot, until I loaded the modules
by hand, upon which the hardware was functional, and /dev was
populated. Since I prefer to have functioning hardware after boot,
without loading modules for everything by hand, rather then having a
customized /dev directory, I went back to using hotplug under debian
testing, currently running linux 2.6.18, and have been happily doing
so ever since. I must admit however, that when I tried it, I didn't
have the time to read up on it, and was expecting udev to work out of
the box, just as hotplug has for me. That's just my opinion, based on
my quick and undetailed experience, so take it for what it's worth.

Greg


On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 06:45:07AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> This might be a dumb off-topic question but what can you tell me about
> udev? I've heard of it but haven't done anything with it around here.
> When upgrading to Slackware 11.0, they included some notes about major
> changes with upgrading it.  I see on one of my boxes that udev as a
> package is installed but the startup script is not marked for execution;
> so it must be installed but nopt running rightnow.  Is it a good thing
> to use? I'm currently on kernel 2.6.16.12 but plan to move up to 2.6.18
> when I get around to it:).
> 

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Re: udev, was: Re: File system erase the softsynth device

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

I am running Debian unstable, and some time ago when my routine upgrades 
suggested it, I let it switch from hotplug to udev, and it went 
smoothly, no problems. I don't have a /dev/softsynth at the moment, 
since I am using my ltlk, but the moment I switch to software speech, 
/dev/softsynth is created automatically, and the change over is smooth.

I am also using 2.6.18 here.

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