* off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus @ Joshua Lambert ` Gregory Nowak ` Willem van der Walt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Joshua Lambert @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If someone that knows how to actually do something with gnopernicus could respond I would very much appreciate some help. <smile> Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. xinit gnopernicus All I seem to be able to do is change the voice parameters and look at gnopernicus's preferences dialogue. How does one actually launch applications? Or use window managers? Cheers, Josh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus Joshua Lambert @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Alex Snow ` Willem van der Walt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 03:36:43PM -0400, Joshua Lambert wrote: > Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. > xinit gnopernicus I haven't used gnopernicus/gnome in 2 years or more now, so all I'm about to write stands to be corrected. If you don't want to be potentially confused/misinformed, use your delete key now. You need to launch gnopernicus from within gnome itself. This means actually being in gnome, and running gnopernicus from the gnome desktop, not from the text console. I believe the run command is alt+f2, but I don't remember for sure. If I'm correct, you want to do something like pressing alt+f2, typing /usr/bin/gnopernicus, followed by the enter key to launch gnopernicus. Beyond that, I don't remember much. Back when gnopernicus first came out, Mark Mulkayhe (spelling) did a series on acb radios main menu, taking you through the basics of using it with some applications, along with teaching some gnome/x basics. I don't know how much of that is still relevant today, but if you're not up for going through the docs, you might want to find that, and give it a listen as a starting point. Hth somewhat. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEtFQZ7s9z/XlyUyARAoGKAJ9N3z2g7ZWp8PyIKlw0DPbCRHiuZACeNd/N Su4olONZGeyT+liM1w6b7gI= =XRIt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I remember listening to that series on acbradio, and gnopernicus never worked as well for me as it did in that series. Even trying it with the latest version as recently as a year or so ago. So I guess your milage varies. On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 06:44:57PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 03:36:43PM -0400, Joshua Lambert wrote: > > Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. > > xinit gnopernicus > > I haven't used gnopernicus/gnome in 2 years or more now, so all I'm > about to write stands to be corrected. If you don't want to be > potentially confused/misinformed, use your delete key now. > > You need to launch gnopernicus from within gnome itself. This means > actually being in gnome, and running gnopernicus from the gnome > desktop, not from the text console. I believe the run command is > alt+f2, but I don't remember for sure. If I'm correct, you want to do > something like pressing alt+f2, typing /usr/bin/gnopernicus, followed by > the enter key to launch gnopernicus. Beyond that, I don't remember > much. > > Back when gnopernicus first came out, Mark Mulkayhe (spelling) did a > series on acb radios main menu, taking you through the basics of using > it with some applications, along with teaching some gnome/x basics. I > don't know how much of that is still relevant today, but if you're not > up for going through the docs, you might want to find that, and give > it a listen as a starting point. Hth somewhat. > > Greg > > > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEtFQZ7s9z/XlyUyARAoGKAJ9N3z2g7ZWp8PyIKlw0DPbCRHiuZACeNd/N > Su4olONZGeyT+liM1w6b7gI= > =XRIt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- If the future navigation system [for interactive networked services on the NII] looks like something from Microsoft, it will never work. -- Chairman of Walt Disney Television & Telecommunications ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus Joshua Lambert ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Willem van der Walt ` Gabriel Vega ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I found Orca a lot esier to use. That is if you can get it going. It requires Gnome 2.14. It will say the required info by default where it works. I never could get any real work done using Gnopernicus. Regards, Willem On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Joshua Lambert wrote: > If someone that knows how to actually do something with gnopernicus could > respond I would very much appreciate some help. <smile> > Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. > xinit gnopernicus > All I seem to be able to do is change the voice parameters and look at > gnopernicus's preferences dialogue. How does one actually launch > applications? Or use window managers? > Cheers, > Josh > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to HelpDesk@csir.co.za. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Willem van der Walt @ ` Gabriel Vega ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Gabriel Vega @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Can I get gnome or orca installed and running on my centos asterisk box? On Jul 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, Willem van der Walt wrote: > I found Orca a lot esier to use. > That is if you can get it going. It requires Gnome 2.14. > It will say the required info by default where it works. > I never could get any real work done using Gnopernicus. > Regards, Willem > > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Joshua Lambert wrote: > >> If someone that knows how to actually do something with >> gnopernicus could >> respond I would very much appreciate some help. <smile> >> Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. >> xinit gnopernicus >> All I seem to be able to do is change the voice parameters and >> look at >> gnopernicus's preferences dialogue. How does one actually launch >> applications? Or use window managers? >> Cheers, >> Josh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and > conditions and > e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily > represent the > views of the CSIR. > > CSIR E-mail Legal Notice > http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html > > CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions > http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html > > For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions > and the CSIR > Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject > line to > HelpDesk@csir.co.za. > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers > for their support. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Willem van der Walt ` Gabriel Vega @ ` Michael Whapples ` Willem van der Walt ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Is orca useful? I mainly ask that because I like keeping my system clean of things that aren't very useful, and gnome, X and all the GUI stuff wasn't useful as I could never get going with gnopernicus. for anything except its own control panel. Suppose I mean is there things I can do with gnome and orca that I can't do with speakup in a text console. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus >I found Orca a lot esier to use. > That is if you can get it going. It requires Gnome 2.14. > It will say the required info by default where it works. > I never could get any real work done using Gnopernicus. > Regards, Willem > > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Joshua Lambert wrote: > >> If someone that knows how to actually do something with gnopernicus could >> respond I would very much appreciate some help. <smile> >> Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. >> xinit gnopernicus >> All I seem to be able to do is change the voice parameters and look at >> gnopernicus's preferences dialogue. How does one actually launch >> applications? Or use window managers? >> Cheers, >> Josh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and > e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent > the > views of the CSIR. > > CSIR E-mail Legal Notice > http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html > CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions > http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html > For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the > CSIR > Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line > to > HelpDesk@csir.co.za. > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec > Computers for their support. > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Michael Whapples @ ` Willem van der Walt ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yes, there are some applications that now work. You might find one for which there is no text alternative, but I cannot think of one now. However, Orca is testable and the Authors need us to try applications and report problems. I have tested the planner application and reported a problem or two. That resulted in a more accessible planner application in less than a week. You might want to wait a while if you are not ready for testing and finding problems. Regards, Willem On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Michael Whapples wrote: > Is orca useful? I mainly ask that because I like keeping my system clean of > things that aren't very useful, and gnome, X and all the GUI stuff wasn't > useful as I could never get going with gnopernicus. for anything except its > own control panel. Suppose I mean is there things I can do with gnome and > orca that I can't do with speakup in a text console. > > From > Michael Whapples > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt@csir.co.za> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus > > >> I found Orca a lot esier to use. >> That is if you can get it going. It requires Gnome 2.14. >> It will say the required info by default where it works. >> I never could get any real work done using Gnopernicus. >> Regards, Willem >> >> >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Joshua Lambert wrote: >> >>> If someone that knows how to actually do something with gnopernicus could >>> respond I would very much appreciate some help. <smile> >>> Here is how I launch gnopernicus from a text console. >>> xinit gnopernicus >>> All I seem to be able to do is change the voice parameters and look at >>> gnopernicus's preferences dialogue. How does one actually launch >>> applications? Or use window managers? >>> Cheers, >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> -- >> This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and >> e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent >> the >> views of the CSIR. >> >> CSIR E-mail Legal Notice >> http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html >> CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions >> http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html >> For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the >> CSIR >> Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line >> to >> HelpDesk@csir.co.za. >> >> >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by >> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec >> Computers for their support. >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to HelpDesk@csir.co.za. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Michael Whapples ` Willem van der Walt @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Michael Whapples, le Wed 12 Jul 2006 10:20:50 +0100, a écrit : > Suppose I mean is there things I can do with gnome and > orca that I can't do with speakup in a text console. Browse the web with all java/javsascript stuff for instance. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Michael Whapples 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks for that, is that using mozilla? As I remember that someone mentioned that elinks using spidermonkey, gives it about the same javascript support as mozilla. I may be wrong about that, and there are some cases where some websites that use javascript refuse to load in elinks, but are meant to work in mozilla under linux. Unless there is something else that I use Windows for such as OCR (currently I have not found a satisfactory OCR system under linux), then I will probably wait and see what happens about accessibility under graphical desktops in linux for a bit, as I understand KDE is working on some better accessibility features (ones to allow screen readers), and my want for a tidy system says that all that gnome stuff is a bit much. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: off-topic: Just how the heck does one use gnome/gnopernicus Michael Whapples, le Wed 12 Jul 2006 10:20:50 +0100, a écrit : > Suppose I mean is there things I can do with gnome and > orca that I can't do with speakup in a text console. Browse the web with all java/javsascript stuff for instance. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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