commands

commands

[mike coulombe]

Hi Kenny, thanks for the information. 
Lets say you have a txt file on drive c and you are in
the ne editor. How would you open that file. 
Thanks Mike.

Re: commands

[Hart Larry]

Well Mike, actually other than writing an alias to switch drives, you can cd to 
another drive, but this second I cannot remember how?
There is a site with a linux cookbook, also a nice site
www.linuxquestions.org
Hart

Re: commands

[Luke Davis]

All drives in Linux appear as a single file system.  There is no drive C.
Your main file system starts at /, and branches out from there.

So just change directories to where ever your drive is mounted, and you 
will see your files.

For example, if you ahve your dos partitions mounted under /dos, or 
/mnt/dos, cd to there:

cd /dos
ls

If you don't know where things are, type:

mount

/dev/hda is your first IDE drive, and /dev/hda1 is your first IDE drive's 
first partition (which would be drive C, if it had DOS on it).


On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Hart Larry wrote:

> Well Mike, actually other than writing an alias to switch drives, you can cd 
> to another drive, but this second I cannot remember how?
> There is a site with a linux cookbook, also a nice site
> www.linuxquestions.org
> Hart
>
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Re: commands

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

Like I said, you don't have drives in Linux.  All you have is
directories.
What directory is located on what drive will be determined by
what device is mounted where in the file system.
There ain't no such thing as a drive c in Linux.

As a matter of fact, there is never a time on a Linux system where you
will have a drive c, d, e, a, or any letter.

To answer your question, you specify the path to the file.  If the file
is in the current dir, you don't need a path, just the name.  If it is
in a different dir, include the full path to the file as part of the
name.

          Kenny
	  
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 02:34:58PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote:
> Hi Kenny, thanks for the information. 
> Lets say you have a txt file on drive c and you are in
> the ne editor. How would you open that file. 
> Thanks Mike.
> 
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Re: commands

[Michael Whapples]

You would be best to read some information about linux. If you are used to 
dos commands, also you may wish to try the dos to linux howto, you can find 
it at www.linux.org. Something that gives a quick overview of how linux 
specifies drives is the speaking install howto with slackware. This is not 
enough to teach you all about linux, but gives some information of how linux 
refers to hardware.
I will give a quick example of how drives are referred to below.
On my computer windows is installed on the first partition of the first 
drive on the IDE bus, c: in windows and /dev/hda1in linux.
Linux is on the second partition of my first drive on the IDE bus, windows 
does not recognise it, linux /dev/hda2.
Swap partition for linux is on the third partition of the same drive, 
windows does not see this, linux /dev/hda3.
In linux you need to mount a drive in a folder to access it. Linux 
automatically mounts the linux partition as /. To access my windows 
partition, I need to mount that, so I have a folder called /winpart/ 
(anything will do), then to mount it I type
mount /dev/hda1 /winpart/
now to access the drive I need to just access the folder /winpart/ as any 
other folder.
For convenience, I have linux automatically mount my windows partition on 
start up, then I just need to access /winpart/ to access the partition.
Hope this helps.
Michael 

Re: commands

[Butch Bussen]

Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do you 
folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i r l 
p ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the drive. 
I'm told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful 
ghost in its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.

Any suggestions?
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Backups (was RE: commands)

[Adam Myrow]

Well, it's not exactly Ghost, but my favorite utility is EXT2 dump from
http://dump.sourceforge.net.  It is a port of the BSD dump utility, which
also showed up in Solaris under the name UFSdump, since that's the
filesystem that Solaris uses.  It has a strange syntax, but is easy to write
scripts for.  What really comes in handy is to build a statically-linked
version, then put the "restore" utility on a floppy disk or CD.  Then, you
can boot a rescue disk, mount the floppy or CD with restore, and regardless
of what libraries are on the rescue disk, you can restore your backups.
I've actually done a successful restore of an entire Linux system this way.
I just booted the rescue CD and after restoring the backups to
newly-formatted partitions, did a "chroot" command, then ran lilo.  From
there, it was as if nothing had happened.  I doubt it would be that easy in
Windows. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:04 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: commands

Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do you
folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i r l p
ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the drive. 
I'm told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful ghost
in its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.

Any suggestions?
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr


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commands

[Chris Gray]

A site I like to use, of course I'm a BASH shell user, is

http://www.ss64.com/bash/

It gives you a very "in brief" look at commands but can be a great 
resource.

Chris



On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Adam Myrow wrote:

> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:43:47 -0500
> From: Adam Myrow <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Backups (was RE: commands)
>
> Well, it's not exactly Ghost, but my favorite utility is EXT2 dump 
from
> http://dump.sourceforge.net.  It is a port of the BSD dump utility, 
which
> also showed up in Solaris under the name UFSdump, since that's the
> filesystem that Solaris uses.  It has a strange syntax, but is easy to 
write
> scripts for.  What really comes in handy is to build a 
statically-linked
> version, then put the "restore" utility on a floppy disk or CD.  Then, 
you
> can boot a rescue disk, mount the floppy or CD with restore, and 
regardless
> of what libraries are on the rescue disk, you can restore your 
backups.
> I've actually done a successful restore of an entire Linux system this 
way.
> I just booted the rescue CD and after restoring the backups to
> newly-formatted partitions, did a "chroot" command, then ran lilo. 
From
> there, it was as if nothing had happened.  I doubt it would be that 
easy in
> Windows.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:04 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: commands
>
> Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do 
you
> folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i 
r l p
> ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the 
drive.
> I'm told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful 
ghost
> in its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.
>
> Any suggestions?
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
>
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Re: commands

[Charles Hallenbeck]

I use "tar" to copy critical files to a partition on a second HD for 
frequent backups, and occasionally write a CD or two (or three) for 
longer term stuff.


On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Butch Bussen wrote:

> Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do you 
> folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i r l p 
> ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the drive. I'm 
> told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful ghost in 
> its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.
>
> Any suggestions?
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
>
>
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Re: commands

[Luke Davis]

I use various things, depending upon which computer(s) is/are involved.

For the corporate network, I use a high-capacity tape drive, with a 
secretary who changes tapes every morning.:)

For my home systems, I either burn important chunks of data to CDs, or I 
run a massive tar --bzip2 -cf, to tar and compress most of a file system, 
and then I scp or rsync it over to one of my servers on the corporate 
network, via my cable connection.:)

Luke


On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Butch Bussen wrote:

> Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do you 
> folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i r l p 
> ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the drive. I'm 
> told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful ghost in 
> its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.
>
> Any suggestions?
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
>
>
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>

Re: commands

[Gregory Nowak]

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I haven't seen anyone mention partition image, so:

http://www.partimage.org

Greg


On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:03:56PM -0700, Butch Bussen wrote:
> Speaking of drives and such and windows not recognizing them.  What do you 
> folks use to back up your systems.  I have a box I run Linux on for i r l 
> p ham radio stuff and I'm looking for a way to ghost or immage the drive. 
> I'm told later versions of ghost will do this, but of course wonderful 
> ghost in its g u i even in dos doesn't talk.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
> 
> 
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Re: commands

[Laura Eaves]

Hi -- Good information -- thanks... I was wondering how to refer to windows 
partition from within linux; is there a way to view my linux partition from 
within windows?
--le

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From: "Michael Whapples" <Mikster4@msn.com>
To: "mike coulombe" <kb8aey@verizon.net>; "Speakup is a screen review system 
for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: commands


You would be best to read some information about linux. If you are used to
dos commands, also you may wish to try the dos to linux howto, you can find
it at www.linux.org. Something that gives a quick overview of how linux
specifies drives is the speaking install howto with slackware. This is not
enough to teach you all about linux, but gives some information of how linux
refers to hardware.
I will give a quick example of how drives are referred to below.
On my computer windows is installed on the first partition of the first
drive on the IDE bus, c: in windows and /dev/hda1in linux.
Linux is on the second partition of my first drive on the IDE bus, windows
does not recognise it, linux /dev/hda2.
Swap partition for linux is on the third partition of the same drive,
windows does not see this, linux /dev/hda3.
In linux you need to mount a drive in a folder to access it. Linux
automatically mounts the linux partition as /. To access my windows
partition, I need to mount that, so I have a folder called /winpart/
(anything will do), then to mount it I type
mount /dev/hda1 /winpart/
now to access the drive I need to just access the folder /winpart/ as any
other folder.
For convenience, I have linux automatically mount my windows partition on
start up, then I just need to access /winpart/ to access the partition.
Hope this helps.
Michael

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Re: commands

[Luke Davis]

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Laura Eaves wrote:

> partition from within linux; is there a way to view my linux partition from
> within windows?

Not a good one.

Re: commands

[Butch Bussen]

I use a program called winscp which is a very nice program.  Lets you look 
at the linux box from another computer.  You can move files back and 
forth, highlight a file on the linux box and open it up with your 
preferred windows editor.  Works reasonably well with speech if you set it 
up as norton commander interface.  Not sure if this is what you  were 
wanting to do.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

Re: commands

[Michael Whapples]

I have found partition magic 8 has a file system browser, it can manage ext2 
and ext3, don't know about other linux file systems. It cannot open files 
directly from linux partitions, but can copy them to other partitions with 
no trouble. I don't know what the later versions are like to access, but 
version 8 is reasonable. If the current version is accessible and to the 
same sort of standard as version 8, and you also wish to do repartitioning 
without having to format, it might be worth the investment.
There are other projects, I don't know how well they work, I think there is 
one that is command lie based, and one that uses an explorer like window. 
Search the internet for these.
From
Michael Whapples
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1@carolina.rr.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: commands


> Hi -- Good information -- thanks... I was wondering how to refer to 
> windows
> partition from within linux; is there a way to view my linux partition 
> from
> within windows?
> --le

commands

[mike coulombe]

Hi I am new to linux. 
Can someone give me some basic commands like, how to change drives. I know dos, but ofcourse the linux commands are different. 
Thhanks Mike.

Re: commands

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

There is no command to change drives in Linux.
>From the point of view of a user, all files exist in a single file 
system.  

The fact the prompt in Linux looks like a DOS prompt is misleading.  It
will be worth your time to find a good introduction to Linux book.
Most distros have a reference manual that explains basic concepts.
Also, you might want to look on the empowerment zone site for a Linux
newby book.

http://www.empowermentzone.com

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 01:56:02PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote:
> Hi I am new to linux. 
> Can someone give me some basic commands like, how to change drives. I know dos, but ofcourse the linux commands are different. 
> Thhanks Mike.
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Re: commands

[Janina Sajka]

There's a HOWTO at http://www.tldp.org specifically aimed at Windows/DOS
users who are new to Linux. It discusses exactly these kinds of things
and provides the reader with equivalences -- the words you know from DOS
and their Linux analogs.

Kenny Hitt writes:
> Hi.
> 
> There is no command to change drives in Linux.
> >From the point of view of a user, all files exist in a single file 
> system.  
> 
> The fact the prompt in Linux looks like a DOS prompt is misleading.  It
> will be worth your time to find a good introduction to Linux book.
> Most distros have a reference manual that explains basic concepts.
> Also, you might want to look on the empowerment zone site for a Linux
> newby book.
> 
> http://www.empowermentzone.com
> 
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
> 
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 01:56:02PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote:
> > Hi I am new to linux. 
> > Can someone give me some basic commands like, how to change drives. I know dos, but ofcourse the linux commands are different. 
> > Thhanks Mike.
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