* hello listers @ Eric Kosten ` alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: " Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Eric Kosten @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup My name is Eric and I have been here here and again. I am back up on linux with a new hdd. I installed the alsa-base package with apt-get install alsa-base. It also installed alsa utils. I know that I have an sonic impact a3d pci card. I am using the kernel 2.4.27 debian, the cd from the speakup page. What do I need to do now? thanks Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers hello listers Eric Kosten @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Eric Kosten 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. You should upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. Since there isn't a Debian packaged 2.6 kernel with speakup in Debian, you will need to build your own. Hope this helps. Kenny On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32:43PM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > My name is Eric and I have been here here and again. I am back up on linux > with a new hdd. I installed the alsa-base package with apt-get install > alsa-base. It also installed alsa utils. I know that I have an sonic > impact a3d pci card. I am using the kernel 2.4.27 debian, the cd from the > speakup page. What do I need to do now? > thanks > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* RE: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: " Kenny Hitt @ ` Eric Kosten ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Eric Kosten @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Seeing as I am new to linux, how might a newby rebuild the kernel with alsa and speakup included? -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:23 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers Hi. You should upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. Since there isn't a Debian packaged 2.6 kernel with speakup in Debian, you will need to build your own. Hope this helps. Kenny On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32:43PM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > My name is Eric and I have been here here and again. I am back up on linux > with a new hdd. I installed the alsa-base package with apt-get install > alsa-base. It also installed alsa utils. I know that I have an sonic > impact a3d pci card. I am using the kernel 2.4.27 debian, the cd from the > speakup page. What do I need to do now? > thanks > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Eric Kosten @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Eric Kosten 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. I use the program found in Debian called kernel-package to build my kernels. It compiles the kernel and produces a Debian package. This package isn't official, but I find it useful to create local packages of my kernels so I can easily keep track of what I have installed in aptitude. Download a tarball of kernel source from kernel.org. Checkout speakup from the speakup CVS using the checkout script on the speakup web site. Configure your kernel for your system. Finally type make-kpkg kernel_image If it finishes with no errors, you will have .deb package in the parent directory. just type dpkg -i packagename as root to install. Reboot and hope you configured the kernel with all important hardware support. Hope this helps. Kenny On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 08:40:58AM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > Seeing as I am new to linux, how might a newby rebuild the kernel with alsa > and speakup included? > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:23 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello > listers > > > Hi. > > You should upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. Since there isn't a Debian packaged > 2.6 kernel with speakup in Debian, you will need to build your own. > > Hope this helps. > > Kenny > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32:43PM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > > My name is Eric and I have been here here and again. I am back up on > linux > > with a new hdd. I installed the alsa-base package with apt-get install > > alsa-base. It also installed alsa utils. I know that I have an sonic > > impact a3d pci card. I am using the kernel 2.4.27 debian, the cd from the > > speakup page. What do I need to do now? > > thanks > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* RE: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Eric Kosten ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Eric Kosten @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Kenny: Hi. I use the program found in Debian called kernel-package to build my kernels. It compiles the kernel and produces a Debian package. This package isn't official, but I find it useful to create local packages of my kernels so I can easily keep track of what I have installed in aptitude. Eric: Kernel-package packages my 2.4.27 kernel?? Does this allow me to then keep an immage of the kernel for a "fall-back form"? Kenny: Download a tarball of kernel source from kernel.org. Checkout speakup from the speakup CVS using the checkout script on the speakup web site. Configure your kernel for your system. Finally type make-kpkg kernel_image Eric: kernel immage being the 2.6.11.7 kernel source tree that I just downloaded?? file name: patch-2.6.11.7.bz2 Kenny: If it finishes with no errors, you will have .deb package in the parent directory. just type dpkg -i packagename This is rather confusing since I have built a total of 2 kernels and this with the help of a friend. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:55 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers Hi. I use the program found in Debian called kernel-package to build my kernels. It compiles the kernel and produces a Debian package. This package isn't official, but I find it useful to create local packages of my kernels so I can easily keep track of what I have installed in aptitude. Download a tarball of kernel source from kernel.org. Checkout speakup from the speakup CVS using the checkout script on the speakup web site. Configure your kernel for your system. Finally type make-kpkg kernel_image If it finishes with no errors, you will have .deb package in the parent directory. just type dpkg -i packagename as root to install. Reboot and hope you configured the kernel with all important hardware support. Hope this helps. Kenny On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 08:40:58AM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > Seeing as I am new to linux, how might a newby rebuild the kernel with alsa > and speakup included? > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:23 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello > listers > > > Hi. > > You should upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. Since there isn't a Debian packaged > 2.6 kernel with speakup in Debian, you will need to build your own. > > Hope this helps. > > Kenny > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:32:43PM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > > My name is Eric and I have been here here and again. I am back up on > linux > > with a new hdd. I installed the alsa-base package with apt-get install > > alsa-base. It also installed alsa utils. I know that I have an sonic > > impact a3d pci card. I am using the kernel 2.4.27 debian, the cd from the > > speakup page. What do I need to do now? > > thanks > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Eric Kosten @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Eric Kosten ` alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe:hello listers Sean McMahon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:14:26AM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > Kernel-package packages my 2.4.27 kernel?? Does this allow me to then keep > an immage of the kernel for a "fall-back form"? Yes. > kernel immage being the 2.6.11.7 kernel source tree that I just downloaded?? > file name: patch-2.6.11.7.bz2 Did you download linux-2.6.11.7.bz2? I believe the files from kernel.org that start with patch are used to update an existing 2.6 kernel source of an earlier version to the new version. Since you are going from 2.4.27, you should download linux-2.6.11.7.tar.bz2. > This is rather confusing since I have built a total of 2 kernels and this > with the help of a friend. I'm guessing, but your friend probably built the kernel the way described in the docs that come in the kernel source tree. This will work on Debian, but you will have to do some things manually that will be done for you using the kernel-package program. One example is if you used grub as your boot loader. the "make install" command doesn't understand Debian's grub, so you will have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually after you are done. The kernel-package is a Debian program, so it knows about Debian's grub. Hope this helps. Kenny ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* RE: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Eric Kosten ` Kenny Hitt ` alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe:hello listers Sean McMahon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Eric Kosten @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok Kenny, you are most helpful. Now, I have the source linux-2.6.11.7 tar.gz file unzipped to a directory. Is the following correct for the source tree: unzipped to /usr/src?? Now, if I am getting this correct, I need to run make config on this new source to modify it for my hardware?? From where do I run make config? Eric -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:14 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers Hi. On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:14:26AM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > Kernel-package packages my 2.4.27 kernel?? Does this allow me to then keep > an immage of the kernel for a "fall-back form"? Yes. > kernel immage being the 2.6.11.7 kernel source tree that I just downloaded?? > file name: patch-2.6.11.7.bz2 Did you download linux-2.6.11.7.bz2? I believe the files from kernel.org that start with patch are used to update an existing 2.6 kernel source of an earlier version to the new version. Since you are going from 2.4.27, you should download linux-2.6.11.7.tar.bz2. > This is rather confusing since I have built a total of 2 kernels and this > with the help of a friend. I'm guessing, but your friend probably built the kernel the way described in the docs that come in the kernel source tree. This will work on Debian, but you will have to do some things manually that will be done for you using the kernel-package program. One example is if you used grub as your boot loader. the "make install" command doesn't understand Debian's grub, so you will have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually after you are done. The kernel-package is a Debian program, so it knows about Debian's grub. Hope this helps. Kenny _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Eric Kosten @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. Putting the kernel source in /usr/src is considered a bad idea now days, but it shouldn't hurt. I build my kernels as my normal user and extract the source to a directory called kernels in my home dir. Before you run make config, don't forget to patch the source with speakup using the checkout script from the speakup web site. If you stick with your current example, you would run make config while you are in /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.7 You should also run the checkout script in the same dir. Hope this helps. Kenny ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:36:22AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Putting the kernel source in /usr/src is considered a bad idea now days, > but it shouldn't hurt. Why, and where should it be put now? Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCXSGG7s9z/XlyUyARAskoAJ43xW5UA73LC1GYYgi3DjJVkXPuhACgqUAE myeum+IZrhydZbRodqBDpDM= =L7BK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:41:26AM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 08:36:22AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > Putting the kernel source in /usr/src is considered a bad idea now days, > > but it shouldn't hurt. > > Why, and where should it be put now? > Can't remember the reason. I believe I read it in the README in te top level of a source tree. I am running low on disk space, so I deleted my kernel source to make room for building Gnome sources. Kenny ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe: hello listers ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:11:00AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > > Why, and where should it be put now? > > > > Can't remember the reason. > I believe I read it in the README in te top level of a > source tree. I am running low on disk space, so I deleted my kernel > source to make room for building Gnome sources. The reason given in that README file makes mention of /usr/src/linux used as a source could overlay existing include headers need for kernel compilation. Well Slackware if I recall, sym links its kernel include headers elseware so a /usr/src/linux kernel tree should be less harmful. What I do now is extract kernel source into /usr/src and leave the name as linux-2.6.11.7 or whatever version and symlink linux to this new version after I compiled the kernel. I preserve the name linux for installation of modules and such. I notice now that the README also mentions how you can specify the output directory so I guess /usr/src/linux could pretty much go away if you want. The main thing here is referencing the proper include headers for the compiler you're using. Hope this isn't too confusing and hope I'm halfway right:). - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCXoRsWSjv55S0LfERA39AAKCwlJ18GvzFZ0Lbcl+PR65nOuYDsACfTmn+ uQAoOnPMGYDP3oo5SqU6mDE= =X0rh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe:hello listers ` Kenny Hitt ` Eric Kosten @ ` Sean McMahon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. One other thing, the command really is make-kpkg kernel_image kernel_image is not being used as the substitute for some other file name. Sourceforge has a newbedoc project with a doc for kernel-package. I can send the url to you if you like. Kenny, do you know what the kernel-tree and kernel-build packages are used fore? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Hitt" <kenny@hittsjunk.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:14 AM Subject: Re: alsa in Debian using the stock 2.4.27 kernel wasRe:hello listers > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:14:26AM -0400, Eric Kosten wrote: > > > Kernel-package packages my 2.4.27 kernel?? Does this allow me to then keep > > an immage of the kernel for a "fall-back form"? > > Yes. > > > kernel immage being the 2.6.11.7 kernel source tree that I just downloaded?? > > file name: patch-2.6.11.7.bz2 > > > Did you download linux-2.6.11.7.bz2? > I believe the files from kernel.org that start with patch are used to > update an existing 2.6 kernel source of an earlier version to the new > version. Since you are going from 2.4.27, you should download > linux-2.6.11.7.tar.bz2. > > > This is rather confusing since I have built a total of 2 kernels and this > > with the help of a friend. > > I'm guessing, but your friend probably built the kernel the way > described in the docs that come in the kernel source tree. This will > work on Debian, but you will have to do some things manually that will > be done for you using the kernel-package program. > > One example is if you used grub as your boot loader. the "make install" > command doesn't understand Debian's grub, so you will have to edit > /boot/grub/menu.lst manually after you are done. The kernel-package is > a Debian program, so it knows about Debian's grub. > > Hope this helps. > Kenny > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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