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* A few things
@  Michael Whapples
   ` Justin Ekis
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From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello,
Thank you to all the people who told me where to find modified Debian 
installation media, it worked fine to set up Debian, my problem was typing 
"linux" as the kernel image instead of "speakup". Unfortunately Debian does 
not seem to suit me, in fat, I have tried a few distributions, and Slackware 
seems to be the one that suits me best. I just need some help with a couple 
of things with Slackware though.

I am having problems with flite compiling on slackware. I have done some 
searches on the internet to find a solution, and I think I found a message 
on this list that said with the right patch it will compile. What is that 
patch, and where do I find it? I know I can use rpm packages with the 
rpm2tgz tool, but I find getting those rpm's seems to take time to download, 
so building from source is preferred.

Also I would prefer to try and use festival for software synthesis rather 
than flite, but I can't work out how I start it in the start up scripts. If 
I add "festival --server" where "festival" includes the path to the binary, 
the system stops loading. I think it is running festival as a server as if 
you typed it at a command prompt, and like from the command prompt, it does 
not return to accept more commands. What would be the best way to start it 
in /etc/rc.d/rc.local?

A more general question is what is a good web browser? Links2 has java 
script, but does not seem to have cookies. Elinks has cookies and very 
limited java script, but not enough for some websites I need to visit. I 
know that there is meant to be good accessibility support being built into 
Mozilla, but I don't think it is properly completed, any knowledge of that?

From
Michael Whapples
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience" 


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* a few things
@  Deedra Waters
   ` Kerry Hoath
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 59+ messages in thread
From: Deedra Waters @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi guys, I posted this a couple of days ago, but am really hoping I can
get some help on this. I'm wondering if any of you can tell me, or have
any ideas of scanner programs that would work with linux if there are any
possibley similar to openbook If there are any, Do any of you  know how I
can get my hp scanjet 5200c series scanner to run off of usb ports? I
found a scanjet program type of thing off of the debian website, but it
doesn't work with usb apparrently because it doesn't find the scanner.

     One other thing... I'm having a little trouble trying to get my
printer working with linux, I've got usb enabled in the kernel, but for
some reason I can't get the printer to print, when I try to print it sends
it, but apparrently the printer isn't receiving it. if anyone has
suggestions with this I'd really appreciate it...





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* a few things
@  Deedra Waters
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Deedra Waters @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

     I'm wondering if maybe some of you can possiblely help me with a few
things, or at least point me in the right direction... My windows m.e is
completely unworking now which is a problem, but doesn't really bother me
much any mor, but the problem it does create is that I no longer have
access to openbook, or being able to print documents with my lexmark
z22z30 series printer. both  printer and scanner run off of usb cables. I
have the support for usb enabled, but I'm wondering if someone can point
me in the right direction for something similar to openbook that works in
linux with speakup as well as info on getting both printer and scanner to
work.
if someone could help me with this I'd appreciate it.
Deedra




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* Re: a few things
@  Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

The thing that both have in common is that they both do the same thing.  However, they interface differently with you.
Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:17:50 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: a few things

>I understand that, I think what I'm asking is what is the difference
>between make config and make menuconfig, do they work the same way? what
>is the difference?

>On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Clßudio Haase wrote:

>> Hi Deedra.
>> Make Config is the  best choice to use with speakup
>> because you can not navegate properly in the menus of
>> Make Menuconfig.


>> =====
>> Claudio Haase.  ICQ 100877433

>> __________________________________________________
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* Re: a few things
@  Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Cute.  I used to do make config all over again, and it was a big pain.  Thanks for the info.
Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:22:02 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: a few things

>make config

>instead of

>make menuconfig

>will give you choices one at a time.  The downside of this approach is that
>you don't have the option to go back and forth among various selections
>until you have things the way you want them.  The advantage is that speech
>will be robust.

>Once you have a .config file you like save it off to a separate location.
>This way, the next time you want to compile a kernel you can copy this old
>configuration file into the root of the kernel tree (i.e.  /usr/src/linux)
>and do a

>make oldconfig

>This is advantageous.  You'll hate make config the first time you run it
>because it asks a gazillion questions.  But, after you've done this once,
>make oldconfig will ask only about new things.

>Also, here's what dto do if you think something in your config needs to
>change--or if you realize you've made a mistake during the make config
>process, but can't go back because that's the nature of the beast.

>Pull up the .config file in your favorite editor and find the line in
>question.  Delete that entire line--do not edit it.  You can delete one line
>or many lines, as needed.  Then, do a:

>make oldconfig

>and you'll be asked about the options you deleted only.

>This make oldconfig makes compiling new kernels a breeze.


>--

>				Janina Sajka, Director
>				Technology Research and Development
>				Governmental Relations Group
>				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

>Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

>Chair, Accessibility SIG
>Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
>http://www.openebook.org

>Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
>Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

>Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
>King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
>http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

>Learn how to make accessible software at
>http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup




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* Re: a few things
@  Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Make config presents you with questions which you can answer with y for yes, n for no, or m for module.  Make menuconfig gives you a list of option which you can check.  I'm not exactly sure of this, because I've only displayed and not used it.
Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:52:12 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: a few things

>um..  what's the difference between the two? and am I going to have to go
>back to the kernel with out speech to fix this?:p

>On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:

>> do make config instead of make menuconfig.
>> Greg


>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:46:25PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
>>>      Well, after a couple of days of fighting with my computer I finally
>>> got to install the cvs updates for speakup.  I got a crash course in
>>> recompiling my kernel but did fine there.  Hear's something I noticed
>>> though and not sure if there is another way around this...  When I was
>>> recompiling the kernel in the menus it appears tha speakup seems to have
>>> trouble tracking things like when I'd up and down arrow between items I
>>> could never  really be sure what item I had selected or not...
>>>      This has suddenly become a problem in the sense that I recompiled the
>>> kerneljust fine with no errors, but apparrently didn't select the right
>>> speech synthisizer.  I'm not really sure how to get around that/fix it,
>>> I've got someone who's been teaching me...  But am mor curious as to wether
>>> there is a better way to work with speakup in menues like that...  If
>>> anyone has suggestions I'd appreciate it.



>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* a few things
@  Deedra Waters
   ` Gregory Nowak
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Deedra Waters @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

     Well, after a couple of days of fighting with my computer I finally
got to install the cvs updates for speakup. I got a crash course in
recompiling my kernel but did fine there. Hear's something I noticed
though and not sure if there is another way around this... When I was
recompiling the kernel in the menus it appears tha speakup seems to have
trouble tracking things like when I'd up and down arrow between items I
could never  really be sure what item I had selected or not...
     This has suddenly become a problem in the sense that I recompiled the
kerneljust fine with no errors, but apparrently didn't select the right
speech synthisizer. I'm not really sure how to get around that/fix it,
I've got someone who's been teaching me... But am mor curious as to wether
there is a better way to work with speakup in menues like that... If
anyone has suggestions I'd appreciate it.




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* RE: a few things
@  Holmes, Steve
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 59+ messages in thread
From: Holmes, Steve @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'

Sounds like an interesting configuration indeed.  I thought a number of the
linux directories such as /usr, bin, etc should be all in the same partition
as utilities would be needed from there in order to complete mounting of the
other partitions.  I am thinking more in the lines of creating a little 10
to 20 meg linux partition to only contain stuff necessary for booting (like
a lilo boot disk) and then have a root=/dev/hda2 or whatever and that
partition could contain the rest - my complete root file system.  I think I
will give this a try tonight; hey, what have I got to lose but some data I
just recently installed:).

-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:25 PM
To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'
Subject: RE: a few things


I would think that partitioning can solve this. Simply create a small 
partition at the beginning of the disk for /. I should think 250 Mb would 
be plenty. The rest can go elsewhere.

Here's how my IBM Thinkpad is configured:

hda1 linux 250 Mb
hda2 linux hibernation-partition
hda3 FAT Windows98 about 1.7 Gb
hda5 linux /home about 8 Gb
hda6 linux /usr about 2.7 Gb
hda7 linux-swap about 127 Mb
hda8 FAT 2 Gb
hda9 FAT about 2Gb
hda10 FAT about 2Gb

 On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Holmes, 
Steve 
wrote:

> I have got a machine at home where two IDE drives are involved.  The 40
> megger I have in there boots fine, the original 425 megger boots OK in
there
> when I had it installed, but the 2.5 gigger does not!  Lilo hangs after
> putting 3 or four characters on the screen.  That's why I tried booting
with
> the 40 meg drive and hung the 2.5 gig on /dev/hdc; that process worked
fine
> til I tried using 2.4 kernel.  Now I get "interrupt lost" over and over.
I
> may consider repartitioning the 2.5 gig drive and see what happens there.
> The ide.txt file suggested issues possibly with jumper settings.  I messed
> around with jumper settings for several hours last night and came up with
no
> new answers at all!  The sooner I can get away from those jumpers, the
much
> better off I'll be <sigh>.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buddy Brannan [mailto:davros@ycardz.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:25 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: a few things
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't think the hard disk size is the problem. Lilo has worked
> around that issue by now, I believe.
> 
> However, here's a thought. At least, it happened to me once. Check
> your motherboard's CMOS settings. If you have a virus detection in
> your CMOS (built-in, not software like Mcafee), disable it, because it
> thinks lilo is a boot sector virus. Confused the hell out of me!
> Anyway, once that's done...well...that should help. BTW, lilo should
> work fine...I know nothing about grub.
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* RE: a few things
@  Holmes, Steve
   ` Tommy Moore
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Holmes, Steve @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'

I guess the only other option would be to repartition the drive from scratch
but then you lose all your data and have to reinstall the distro all over
again. <yuck> sounds like windows to me:)

One other question, what are the advantages of Ext3 and who is using it now
days?  I don't recall seeing it mentioned in slackware 8.0 either.

-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:03 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: a few things


On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Kirk Wood wrote:

> As mentioned in another post your bios *must* be able to read the portion
> of the hard drive containing /boot. If your bios doesn't recognize the
> entire drive, then you will want a small partition near the begining of
> the drive. Making a drive like this into a dual boot situation might be
> tough. I believe it is doable, but I haven't managed.

I have done this a lot, but only with Partition Magic which is not free. 
Furthermore, it is now only sold for Windows. So, I'm unlikely to keep 
doing this myself, as I have continued to use their old DOS product to 
accomplish this kind of thing--and I've now moved to the ext3 file system, 
which the old DOS Partition Magic doesn't, and never will support.

The reason this has worked so well for me--the feature in Partition Magic 
which makes this work, and the feature seemingly missing in Part Ed is the 
ability to move a partition. Part Ed will resize, but I do not see where 
it will literally move a p[artition left or right.



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* RE: a few things
@  Holmes, Steve
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 59+ messages in thread
From: Holmes, Steve @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'

I have got a machine at home where two IDE drives are involved.  The 40
megger I have in there boots fine, the original 425 megger boots OK in there
when I had it installed, but the 2.5 gigger does not!  Lilo hangs after
putting 3 or four characters on the screen.  That's why I tried booting with
the 40 meg drive and hung the 2.5 gig on /dev/hdc; that process worked fine
til I tried using 2.4 kernel.  Now I get "interrupt lost" over and over.  I
may consider repartitioning the 2.5 gig drive and see what happens there.
The ide.txt file suggested issues possibly with jumper settings.  I messed
around with jumper settings for several hours last night and came up with no
new answers at all!  The sooner I can get away from those jumpers, the much
better off I'll be <sigh>.

-----Original Message-----
From: Buddy Brannan [mailto:davros@ycardz.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:25 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: a few things


Hi,

I don't think the hard disk size is the problem. Lilo has worked
around that issue by now, I believe.

However, here's a thought. At least, it happened to me once. Check
your motherboard's CMOS settings. If you have a virus detection in
your CMOS (built-in, not software like Mcafee), disable it, because it
thinks lilo is a boot sector virus. Confused the hell out of me!
Anyway, once that's done...well...that should help. BTW, lilo should
work fine...I know nothing about grub.
-- 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes

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* RE: a few things
@  Holmes, Steve
   ` Tommy Moore
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 59+ messages in thread
From: Holmes, Steve @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'

I wonder if your hard disk is too big.  I mean the disk being too large for
normal booting  Windows gets around it with kludges and Linux (after booting
can get around some of those issues without special kludges.  I think lilo
requires a starting address low enough to boot properly.

Take a look at ide.txt in /usr/src/linux/Documentation for a brief
explanation of some of this hard disk geometry stuff.

-----Original Message-----
From: Deedra Waters [mailto:dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:25 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: a few things


we tried this and that didn't work. So we tried installing grub instead...
but then we got the error with windows. still not sure what we're missing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: a few things


> RE-install lilo. When it comes to the boot menu, pressing tab will give
> you the options. You must type in any option other then the
> default. The default will be marked with an astrick. You can change the
> default by editing lilo.conf found in /etc then running lilo from a
> command prompt.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
> If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: Debian with speakup
@  Kenny Hitt
   ` Tommy Moore
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 59+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi, you can use the current disks and just do
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
This should upgrade your system to the latest.
The only thing special about installing with speakup is the command line
options for speakup and don't let the system configure your keyboard.
The Debian manual for installing is good about walking you through the
installation.  It is on the cd or you can read it on there web sight.

          Kenny

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 01:03:58PM -0700, Cláudio Haase wrote:
> Hi all.
> I have  some questions:
> 1. Can someone say me if debian 2.2r3 with speakupb is
> already available for download?
> 2. Where can I find a tutorial to install Debian with
> speakup?
> Thanks for help!
> 
> 
> =====
> Claudio Haase. ICQ 100877433
> 
> __________________________________________________
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