* speech-dispatcher/speechd-up problems after dist-upgrade on debian testing
@ Gregory Nowak
` Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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Hello all.
I have 3 machines running debian testing lenny/sid, 2 are physical,
one is virtual running under virtualbox. I do apt-get update, and
apt-get dist-upgrade on all these machines once a week, usually on
Sunday.
After my most recent dist-upgrade this last Sunday, I am having
software speech issues on all 3 machines. I suspect the problem to be
somewhere in speech-dispatcher/speechd-up. I've ruled out speakup,
since speechd-up -p from the command-line exhibits the same abnormal behavior,
and my hardware synths are working with speakup just fine. Also, my
kernel wasn't touched during the upgrade. Speech-dispatcher, espeak,
and speechd-up were also not touched during the upgrade. I don't
remember the exact list of what was upgraded, but I do remember that
alsa packages were upgraded. Alsa is however not the problem, since
espeak by itself, and all other programs playing audio work fine.
The problem is hard to describe, but I'll do my best. If I type on the
command-line "espeak "Hello, it seems speechd-up works correctly."",
espeak speaks the text perfectly. If I type on the command-line
"speechd-up -p", I hear "lo ms speechd up works correctly".
If I am trying to use speakup with software speech, the best way to
describe what happens is that syllables seem to be "swallowed", and
there are frequent noticeable pauses in the speech. The
speech-dispatcher I'm using is from the debian testing archives:
speech-dispatcher 0.6.5
The espeak package is also from the debian testing archives:
eSpeak text-to-speech: 1.30 31.Dec.07
The speechd-up package I'm using is from:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speechd-up/speechd-up_0.4-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
speechd-up 0.1
Copyright (C) 2002-2003 Brailcom, o.p.s.
I made no configuration changes to speech-dispatcher/speechd-up/espeak
before, or after the upgrade. Before the upgrade, things were working
perfectly, and after the upgrade they weren't. After the upgrade
itself, speech was normal. The problem started after the machines were
rebooted/speech-dispatcher was restarted. The output module I'm using is espeak, as opposed to
espeak-generic. I also have log files speechd.log, speechd-up.log, and
espeak.log made after the problem appeared. Speech-dispatcher, and
speechd-up were set to log at level 5 when these log files were
produced. If there's someone who could look at these, in an attempt to
figure out the problem, (that would be someone from braillecom I
suspect), please let me know, and I can send all 3 files to you
privately. If any other information is needed, please let me know. If
someone already knows of a fix for this problem, please let me know
also. Thanks.
Greg
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* Re: speech-dispatcher/speechd-up problems after dist-upgrade on debian testing
speech-dispatcher/speechd-up problems after dist-upgrade on debian testing Gregory Nowak
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` Lukas Loehrer
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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Hello again.
I just tried with flite as the output module, and while the problem is
still there, flite seems to be dealing with it a bit better than espeak,
because the problem isn't immediately obvious with flite, whereas it
is immediately obvious with espeak. What this means in practice is
that while not perfect, software speech is useable to a degree with
flite, but not with espeak. This does definitely rule out
espeak though, and narrows the problem down to speech-dispatcher or
speechd-up.
Greg
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:02:06PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I have 3 machines running debian testing lenny/sid, 2 are physical,
> one is virtual running under virtualbox. I do apt-get update, and
> apt-get dist-upgrade on all these machines once a week, usually on
> Sunday.
>
> After my most recent dist-upgrade this last Sunday, I am having
> software speech issues on all 3 machines. I suspect the problem to be
> somewhere in speech-dispatcher/speechd-up. I've ruled out speakup,
> since speechd-up -p from the command-line exhibits the same abnormal behavior,
> and my hardware synths are working with speakup just fine. Also, my
> kernel wasn't touched during the upgrade. Speech-dispatcher, espeak,
> and speechd-up were also not touched during the upgrade. I don't
> remember the exact list of what was upgraded, but I do remember that
> alsa packages were upgraded. Alsa is however not the problem, since
> espeak by itself, and all other programs playing audio work fine.
>
> The problem is hard to describe, but I'll do my best. If I type on the
> command-line "espeak "Hello, it seems speechd-up works correctly."",
> espeak speaks the text perfectly. If I type on the command-line
> "speechd-up -p", I hear "lo ms speechd up works correctly".
>
> If I am trying to use speakup with software speech, the best way to
> describe what happens is that syllables seem to be "swallowed", and
> there are frequent noticeable pauses in the speech. The
> speech-dispatcher I'm using is from the debian testing archives:
>
> speech-dispatcher 0.6.5
>
> The espeak package is also from the debian testing archives:
>
> eSpeak text-to-speech: 1.30 31.Dec.07
>
> The speechd-up package I'm using is from:
>
> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speechd-up/speechd-up_0.4-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
>
> speechd-up 0.1
> Copyright (C) 2002-2003 Brailcom, o.p.s.
>
> I made no configuration changes to speech-dispatcher/speechd-up/espeak
> before, or after the upgrade. Before the upgrade, things were working
> perfectly, and after the upgrade they weren't. After the upgrade
> itself, speech was normal. The problem started after the machines were
> rebooted/speech-dispatcher was restarted. The output module I'm using is espeak, as opposed to
> espeak-generic. I also have log files speechd.log, speechd-up.log, and
> espeak.log made after the problem appeared. Speech-dispatcher, and
> speechd-up were set to log at level 5 when these log files were
> produced. If there's someone who could look at these, in an attempt to
> figure out the problem, (that would be someone from braillecom I
> suspect), please let me know, and I can send all 3 files to you
> privately. If any other information is needed, please let me know. If
> someone already knows of a fix for this problem, please let me know
> also. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
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` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Lukas Loehrer
` Gregory Nowak
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From: Lukas Loehrer @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I had similar problems on sid after updating to libasound2 version 1.0.16-1. I went back to 1.0.15-3 for now.
Best regards, Lukas
Gregory Nowak writes ("Re: speech-dispatcher/speechd-up problems after dist-upgrade on debian testing"):
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> Hello again.
>
> I just tried with flite as the output module, and while the problem is
> still there, flite seems to be dealing with it a bit better than espeak,
> because the problem isn't immediately obvious with flite, whereas it
> is immediately obvious with espeak. What this means in practice is
> that while not perfect, software speech is useable to a degree with
> flite, but not with espeak. This does definitely rule out
> espeak though, and narrows the problem down to speech-dispatcher or
> speechd-up.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:02:06PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I have 3 machines running debian testing lenny/sid, 2 are physical,
> > one is virtual running under virtualbox. I do apt-get update, and
> > apt-get dist-upgrade on all these machines once a week, usually on
> > Sunday.
> >
> > After my most recent dist-upgrade this last Sunday, I am having
> > software speech issues on all 3 machines. I suspect the problem to be
> > somewhere in speech-dispatcher/speechd-up. I've ruled out speakup,
> > since speechd-up -p from the command-line exhibits the same abnormal behavior,
> > and my hardware synths are working with speakup just fine. Also, my
> > kernel wasn't touched during the upgrade. Speech-dispatcher, espeak,
> > and speechd-up were also not touched during the upgrade. I don't
> > remember the exact list of what was upgraded, but I do remember that
> > alsa packages were upgraded. Alsa is however not the problem, since
> > espeak by itself, and all other programs playing audio work fine.
> >
> > The problem is hard to describe, but I'll do my best. If I type on the
> > command-line "espeak "Hello, it seems speechd-up works correctly."",
> > espeak speaks the text perfectly. If I type on the command-line
> > "speechd-up -p", I hear "lo ms speechd up works correctly".
> >
> > If I am trying to use speakup with software speech, the best way to
> > describe what happens is that syllables seem to be "swallowed", and
> > there are frequent noticeable pauses in the speech. The
> > speech-dispatcher I'm using is from the debian testing archives:
> >
> > speech-dispatcher 0.6.5
> >
> > The espeak package is also from the debian testing archives:
> >
> > eSpeak text-to-speech: 1.30 31.Dec.07
> >
> > The speechd-up package I'm using is from:
> >
> > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speechd-up/speechd-up_0.4-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
> >
> > speechd-up 0.1
> > Copyright (C) 2002-2003 Brailcom, o.p.s.
> >
> > I made no configuration changes to speech-dispatcher/speechd-up/espeak
> > before, or after the upgrade. Before the upgrade, things were working
> > perfectly, and after the upgrade they weren't. After the upgrade
> > itself, speech was normal. The problem started after the machines were
> > rebooted/speech-dispatcher was restarted. The output module I'm using is espeak, as opposed to
> > espeak-generic. I also have log files speechd.log, speechd-up.log, and
> > espeak.log made after the problem appeared. Speech-dispatcher, and
> > speechd-up were set to log at level 5 when these log files were
> > produced. If there's someone who could look at these, in an attempt to
> > figure out the problem, (that would be someone from braillecom I
> > suspect), please let me know, and I can send all 3 files to you
> > privately. If any other information is needed, please let me know. If
> > someone already knows of a fix for this problem, please let me know
> > also. Thanks.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
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` Lukas Loehrer
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` Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 07:35:50AM +0100, Lukas Loehrer wrote:
>
> I had similar problems on sid after updating to libasound2 version 1.0.16-1. I went back to 1.0.15-3 for now.
Did you build from source, or were you able to downgrade using a deb
package? If you downgraded via installing a deb package, then could
you please point me to where I can obtain a 1.0.15-3 package from? Thanks.
Greg
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` Gregory Nowak
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` Lukas Loehrer
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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Never mind. I just had an inspiration to go check ubuntu's archives,
and they still have 1.0.15.3. For anyone wanting to downgrade reading
this, you can find it at:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_1.0.15-3ubuntu3_i386.deb
There is also a amd64 deb in that directory. I installed it, rebooted
to be very sure everything was configured right, since a reboot broke
it last time after the upgrade, and sure enough, the problem is gone
now. Don't forget to tell dpkg to hold that package.
Thanks to Chuck and Lukas for your help.
Greg
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 11:49:24PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Did you build from source, or were you able to downgrade using a deb
> package? If you downgraded via installing a deb package, then could
> you please point me to where I can obtain a 1.0.15-3 package from? Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
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