Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples@aim.com>]

On the topic of using Orca in a terminal window compared to speakup in
text consoles, I would say speakup is much more responsive (speakup is
more responsive than Orca in general, as an example, if using Orca and
evolution for email and the email is long (eg. if there is a lot of
untrimmed reply text), then orca is very unresponsive about keyboard
echo, where as speakup with a text based email client never has this
problem). Another observation with Orca is that in gnome-terminal, Orca
sometimes stops doing key echo, speakup in a text console never seems to
do this. To put it simply, Orca requires the GUI stuff, so relies on
more components, where as speakup is in the kernel so relies only on the
kernel (provided you are using hardware speech), so there is more
possibilities of something going wrong for Orca (although Orca seems to
be coming along now for reliability).

From
Michael Whapples
On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 10:04 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:33:30AM +0330, Parham wrote:
> > And also another question. What if Orca doesn't support an application?
> > Can I get the CLI-based one and try it with Orca then?
> 
> If orca doesn't support a gui application, and there is a cli
> alternative, then you can get that, and try running it in a xterm. I
> haven't played much with orca support in xterm windows, so I don't
> know how well that compares to running with speakup in a text console,
> out of the gui. Some on here have said orca does well in xterm
> windows, others have said that it doesn't do as well as speakup does,
> so I don't know.
> 
> > And you have put me in doubts that either CLI is the same as GNOME terminal.
> 
> Mikel explained this well in one of his posts. Pretend you're using a
> win95/win98/winme system. In a dosbox (a command-line window running
> in the gui), you are running dos software, but are doing it in a gui,
> this is like running a xterm window inside of the gnu/linux gui. Now,
> If you went to the shutdown dialogue in our windows system, and chose
> "restart the computer in ms-dos mode", You'd be in pure dos, without
> the gui, and this is like the gnu/linux text console. Orca is
> therefore a gui screen reader that can read xterm windows for you the
> equivalent of the dosbox, along with reading the gui. Speakup is a
> screen reader for the text console, that will work only in the text
> console, the equivalent of using a screen reader in ms-dos mode in our
> windows example. I hope that makes sense between the explanation Mikel
> gave, and the one I just gave above.
> 
> Greg
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