Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp

["Parham" <parham16@gmail.com>]

Well. I ran GRML live and there is no speech when I type

grml swspeak

and it says that there is no run command when I type

run swspeak

Any opinion?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp


> On the topic of using Orca in a terminal window compared to speakup in
> text consoles, I would say speakup is much more responsive (speakup is
> more responsive than Orca in general, as an example, if using Orca and
> evolution for email and the email is long (eg. if there is a lot of
> untrimmed reply text), then orca is very unresponsive about keyboard
> echo, where as speakup with a text based email client never has this
> problem). Another observation with Orca is that in gnome-terminal, Orca
> sometimes stops doing key echo, speakup in a text console never seems to
> do this. To put it simply, Orca requires the GUI stuff, so relies on
> more components, where as speakup is in the kernel so relies only on the
> kernel (provided you are using hardware speech), so there is more
> possibilities of something going wrong for Orca (although Orca seems to
> be coming along now for reliability).
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 10:04 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:33:30AM +0330, Parham wrote:
>> > And also another question. What if Orca doesn't support an application?
>> > Can I get the CLI-based one and try it with Orca then?
>>
>> If orca doesn't support a gui application, and there is a cli
>> alternative, then you can get that, and try running it in a xterm. I
>> haven't played much with orca support in xterm windows, so I don't
>> know how well that compares to running with speakup in a text console,
>> out of the gui. Some on here have said orca does well in xterm
>> windows, others have said that it doesn't do as well as speakup does,
>> so I don't know.
>>
>> > And you have put me in doubts that either CLI is the same as GNOME 
>> > terminal.
>>
>> Mikel explained this well in one of his posts. Pretend you're using a
>> win95/win98/winme system. In a dosbox (a command-line window running
>> in the gui), you are running dos software, but are doing it in a gui,
>> this is like running a xterm window inside of the gnu/linux gui. Now,
>> If you went to the shutdown dialogue in our windows system, and chose
>> "restart the computer in ms-dos mode", You'd be in pure dos, without
>> the gui, and this is like the gnu/linux text console. Orca is
>> therefore a gui screen reader that can read xterm windows for you the
>> equivalent of the dosbox, along with reading the gui. Speakup is a
>> screen reader for the text console, that will work only in the text
>> console, the equivalent of using a screen reader in ms-dos mode in our
>> windows example. I hope that makes sense between the explanation Mikel
>> gave, and the one I just gave above.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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