Editors?

Editors?

[Zachary Kline]

Howdy,
    I was just wondering if anybody could recommend which text editor is good to use with Speakup.  I've heard good things about Vi--and Emacspeak with Emacs.  The default Gentoo installation comes with Nano--but I was wondering if there was a better choice?
Thanks much,
Zack.

Re: Editors?

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

I started out using emacs, but mostly use vim (vi improved) these days.  I sometimes sxcrew myself up by forgetting whether I'm in its command mode or its edit mode, and I don't like that it tends not to tell me what character I'm backspacing over.  I had little trouble changing certain defaults (line length and the tab setting), and I like some of its commands for moving through documents.  

I've never used nano, so can't compare it with the others.

Let me know if you think I can help more.  I'm sure no expert, but I'm more or less trucking along.

Al
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From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: Editors?


> Howdy,
>     I was just wondering if anybody could recommend which text editor is good to use with Speakup.  I've heard good things about Vi--and Emacspeak with Emacs.  The default Gentoo installation comes with Nano--but I was wondering if there was a better choice?
> Thanks much,
> Zack.
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Re: Editors?

[Chris Norman]

NE is prety good.

It stands for Nice-editor, and is probably available from your package
manager's repositories.

HTH,

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 05:05 -0800, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Howdy,
>     I was just wondering if anybody could recommend which text editor is good to use with Speakup.  I've heard good things about Vi--and Emacspeak with Emacs.  The default Gentoo installation comes with Nano--but I was wondering if there was a better choice?
> Thanks much,
> Zack.
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Re: Editors?

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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I prefer vim, which is available in every distro I know of.  It's very
powerful and I found it much easier to learn than I expected it to be.
Just my opinion, take it or leave it, it's up to you.

HTH,
Lorenzo
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Re: Editors?

[Steve Holmes]

I like emacs and vim.  They each seem to have their places; I like emacs
for its advanced programmer modes with auto indent, ChangeLog updates
and stuff but vim is fast and I find it really quick for things like
editting e-mail messages with mutt and the like.  Vim wraps text while
in input mode but I think I prefer emacs's word wrapping a bit betterand
with emacs there's no mixing up input and command modes but then again
with vim's command mode, you can do some pretty good mass operations
with small number of keystrokes.  I have discovered in recent time that
vim does have a lot more advanced features than I had previously known.
So they are probably pretty competetive now.

It's real easy to get into "editor wars" but so far, I'm just expressing
my personal view and what I like3 in editors that I personally use.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:43:03AM -0500, Lorenzo Taylor wrote:
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> I prefer vim, which is available in every distro I know of.  It's very
> powerful and I found it much easier to learn than I expected it to be.
> Just my opinion, take it or leave it, it's up to you.
> 
> HTH,
> Lorenzo
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Re: Editors?

[Sean McMahon]

If you intend to use emacs, you don't need emacspeak sinse you're using speakup. 
Naturally you may use emacspeak if you like.  Use the printscreen key to kill 
speakup before starting emacspeak.  The speakup user's guide has some good 
commands which you may find useful while editing, beeping at a defined column 
number and so on.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:05 AM
Subject: Editors?


> Howdy,
>    I was just wondering if anybody could recommend which text editor is good 
> to use with Speakup.  I've heard good things about Vi--and Emacspeak with 
> Emacs.  The default Gentoo installation comes with Nano--but I was wondering 
> if there was a better choice?
> Thanks much,
> Zack.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Editors?

[Tyler Spivey]

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Personally, I use /bin/ed, and also edbrowse. I'm using vim for email,
but using a screen editor is like driving a car - its very difficult to
know what you're doing at any given time, and it wastes lines that could
be used for prior output commands with parts of the text I will review
by going up anyways.

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Re: Editors?

[Michael Whapples]

I find nano works well with speakup, but you will want to make sure that
cursor tracking is in the right mode, I think on is rightt. Nano is
basic, and if you want something basic (almost similar to functionality
in notepad to give a windows comparison) then nano is good. I like nano
as all commands are shown at the bottom of the screen should you forget
one, whereas emacs and such like you need to be familiar with the
commands to use them. I know someone suggested ed and edbrowse, well
this is quite something, possibilities are great with it, and if you
have done some programming (script languages such as perl) then it is
easy to get going with, but may be more challenging for someone used to
graphical interfaces such as windows editors, as it really takes command
line to the extreme in my mind, and a 2D text editor may be more
intuitive to the windows user.

From
Michael Whapples
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 05:05 -0800, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Howdy,
>     I was just wondering if anybody could recommend which text editor is good to use with Speakup.  I've heard good things about Vi--and Emacspeak with Emacs.  The default Gentoo installation comes with Nano--but I was wondering if there was a better choice?
> Thanks much,
> Zack.
> 

Editors?

[Hart Larry]

Well, Michael-and-All, I exclusively run nano, however, I have a couple of Nano 
inquirees?  First of all, in the search-and-replace, how can I look for or 
delete carriage returns?  I think in wp they are called "hrt"
Also, if I am editing my lynx bookmarks file, I know there are ways to have 
nano come up at the current line instead of beginning of a file?  In the help 
it claims a minus LINE
Thanks in advance
Hart