* GRML and Speakup @ Edgar Lozano ` covici ` mike 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Edgar Lozano @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Just wondering if someone could provide me with the steps to get grml talking with Speakup? I'm using the 2014.11 iso image. I heard a well-done podcast in which the command "grml swspeakup" was provided as a boot command. Does this still work? It was an informative one over the installation of Arch using this live environment. Unfortunately, it seems a bit out of date. Otherwise, what steps are needed to get this thing speaking to me? Also, just as an aside, has anyone tried following through with one of those Linux from Scratch (build-it-yourself) projects? Is it worth doing? Is there potential accessibility support with Speakup? that is, can the program be incorporated into a custom Linux environment? I read somewhere that the live LFS live distribution has Speakup on it. Sorry, I've been growing somewhat obsessed with Linux and want to understand as much as possible about building and deploying live environments that provide spoken feedback upon boot for system administration. Thanks in advance. -- Thanks for reading. Have a good day. If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and check us out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup GRML and Speakup Edgar Lozano @ ` covici ` Steve Matzura ` mike 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The instructions you saw are out of date. What you do is at the tone that you hear after booting from the cd, just hit enter and wait for another beep. Now just hit return and you will be at a root prompt with no speech. Now type modprobe speakup_soft and hit enter and then type espeakup. Your sound may be very low volume at this point, but you can type alsamixer and hit up arrow a number of timesand then if necesary hit right arrow and type up arrow a few times and do this again and you should hear sound. Edgar Lozano <1419goku@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering if someone could provide me with the steps to get grml > talking with Speakup? I'm using the 2014.11 iso image. I heard a > well-done podcast in which the command "grml swspeakup" was provided > as a boot command. Does this still work? It was an informative one > over the installation of Arch using this live environment. > Unfortunately, it seems a bit out of date. Otherwise, what steps are > needed to get this thing speaking to me? Also, just as an aside, has > anyone tried following through with one of those Linux from Scratch > (build-it-yourself) projects? Is it worth doing? Is there potential > accessibility support with Speakup? that is, can the program be > incorporated into a custom Linux environment? I read somewhere that > the live LFS live distribution has Speakup on it. Sorry, I've been > growing somewhat obsessed with Linux and want to understand as much as > possible about building and deploying live environments that provide > spoken feedback upon boot for system administration. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Thanks for reading. > Have a good day. > If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and > check us out. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` covici @ ` Steve Matzura ` Techswing33 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Steve Matzura @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. John: On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:20:21 -0400, you wrote: >The instructions you saw are out of date. What you do is at the tone >that you hear after booting from the cd, just hit enter and wait for >another beep. Now just hit return and you will be at a root prompt >with no speech. Now type modprobe speakup_soft and hit enter and then >type espeakup. Some enterprising soul should come up with the mods which will do this automatically. Try as I might, I absolutely could not hear the internal speaker beep on either of the two systems I tried this on. Turns out, the speaker itself is buried deep, and I mean really deep, in the case, covered up by lots of other components. Therefore, having grml come up talking would be, to say the least, most efficacious. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Steve Matzura @ ` Techswing33 ` Gregory Nowak ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Techswing33 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. Thanks. Dave. On 10/2/15, Steve Matzura <sm@noisynotes.com> wrote: > John: > > On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:20:21 -0400, you wrote: > >>The instructions you saw are out of date. What you do is at the tone >>that you hear after booting from the cd, just hit enter and wait for >>another beep. Now just hit return and you will be at a root prompt >>with no speech. Now type modprobe speakup_soft and hit enter and then >>type espeakup. > > Some enterprising soul should come up with the mods which will do this > automatically. Try as I might, I absolutely could not hear the > internal speaker beep on either of the two systems I tried this on. > Turns out, the speaker itself is buried deep, and I mean really deep, > in the case, covered up by lots of other components. Therefore, having > grml come up talking would be, to say the least, most efficacious. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Techswing33 @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Tony Baechler 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Did you verify the checksum/gpg signature/both of the iso before burning it? Did you verify the disk burned correctly before trying to boot from it? I assume your pc's BIOS is set to boot from the dvd drive before booting from the hard drive. I think the grml iso can also be booted from a usb drive, but don't quote me on that. You do of course need to be using the full iso here, not the small iso. Greg On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:46:00PM -0400, Techswing33 wrote: > Hello, > > I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos > I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Techswing33 ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Tony Baechler ` Jude DaShiell ` Rob 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On 10/2/2015 10:46 AM, Techswing33 wrote: > I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos > I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. I am working on a rescue CD based on Debian. That is to say it is 99% Debian packages with very minor adjustments for accessibility. It now even includes the Debian Installer, so you can install an official Debian system on your machine. It comes up talking on two real machines and in a VM, but it needs wider testing. I do have brltty enabled, but I don't have a Braille display. It has most standard tools you would expect, plus you can install others if you want. If you want a talking system out of the box, you can install the live system to your hard drive, but I don't recommend this. Unlike other CDs, it should come up talking automatically and includes non-free firmware, so your wireless network should be detected. There is just one small problem. That is the bandwidth. I hesitate to give out a download location here because I don't want my server to get flooded with hits. Therefore, if you want it, please write off list. I will eventually find a better hosting solution, but mirrors are welcome. It's currently 64-bit only, but once it's stable, I plan to produce a 32-bit version and DVDs with a GUI. I am guessing I'll need about 12.5 GB total, but not for now. If this interests you, please test. It needs testing on as much hardware as possible. I think I included most important packages, but if you think something is missing, please let me know. I plan to eventually set up a mailing list, but not until it gets more testing. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Tony Baechler @ ` Jude DaShiell ` Rob 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. It's possible to use debian-testing nonfree firmware edition to install debian. Unfortunately that worked on my amd system and failed on my acer system on acer the firmware wouldn't install even though the firmware was already on the media in that instance the media acted like the official debian media. On the amd machine though once the installation was done it was impossible to configure the rt2870 wifi adapter and connect to the internet. The installation does not run wpa_passphrase and update /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf the way debian has it set up. When I booted the system after installation I got a message in dmesg that the wlx link was not ready. I could repeat installation and execute a shell and run wpa_passphrase but wonder if that would even help. For the record, I'm running wifi on Talkingarch since Talkingarch was able to configure the wifi adapter and get out to the internet after installation. The netctl script is archlinux specific and was very helpful once I figured out how to use it. I lost access to ethernet and will be without it until at least December of this year since equipment had to be moved so another person could live in that space. On Sat, 3 Oct 2015, Tony Baechler wrote: > Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 04:57:13 > From: Tony Baechler <tony@baechler.net> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > <speakup@linux-speakup.org> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org> > Subject: Re: GRML and Speakup > > On 10/2/2015 10:46 AM, Techswing33 wrote: >> I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos >> I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. > > > I am working on a rescue CD based on Debian. That is to say it is 99% > Debian packages with very minor adjustments for accessibility. It now even > includes the Debian Installer, so you can install an official Debian system > on your machine. It comes up talking on two real machines and in a VM, but > it needs wider testing. I do have brltty enabled, but I don't have a > Braille display. It has most standard tools you would expect, plus you can > install others if you want. If you want a talking system out of the box, > you can install the live system to your hard drive, but I don't recommend > this. Unlike other CDs, it should come up talking automatically and > includes non-free firmware, so your wireless network should be detected. > > There is just one small problem. That is the bandwidth. I hesitate to give > out a download location here because I don't want my server to get flooded > with hits. Therefore, if you want it, please write off list. I will > eventually find a better hosting solution, but mirrors are welcome. It's > currently 64-bit only, but once it's stable, I plan to produce a 32-bit > version and DVDs with a GUI. I am guessing I'll need about 12.5 GB total, > but not for now. > > If this interests you, please test. It needs testing on as much hardware as > possible. I think I included most important packages, but if you think > something is missing, please let me know. I plan to eventually set up a > mailing list, but not until it gets more testing. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Tony Baechler ` Jude DaShiell @ ` Rob ` John G. Heim ` Tony Baechler 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Rob @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I can host it for you if you want. I have a vps offsite. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@baechler.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@linux-speakup.org> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 3:57 AM Subject: Re: GRML and Speakup > On 10/2/2015 10:46 AM, Techswing33 wrote: >> I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos >> I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. > > > I am working on a rescue CD based on Debian. That is to say it is 99% > Debian packages with very minor adjustments for accessibility. It now > even includes the Debian Installer, so you can install an official Debian > system on your machine. It comes up talking on two real machines and in a > VM, but it needs wider testing. I do have brltty enabled, but I don't > have a Braille display. It has most standard tools you would expect, plus > you can install others if you want. If you want a talking system out of > the box, you can install the live system to your hard drive, but I don't > recommend this. Unlike other CDs, it should come up talking automatically > and includes non-free firmware, so your wireless network should be > detected. > > There is just one small problem. That is the bandwidth. I hesitate to > give out a download location here because I don't want my server to get > flooded with hits. Therefore, if you want it, please write off list. I > will eventually find a better hosting solution, but mirrors are welcome. > It's currently 64-bit only, but once it's stable, I plan to produce a > 32-bit version and DVDs with a GUI. I am guessing I'll need about 12.5 GB > total, but not for now. > > If this interests you, please test. It needs testing on as much hardware > as possible. I think I included most important packages, but if you think > something is missing, please let me know. I plan to eventually set up a > mailing list, but not until it gets more testing. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Rob @ ` John G. Heim ` Tony Baechler ` Tony Baechler 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: John G. Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists would make space available on our server for that. See www.iavit.org. On 10/03/2015 10:29 AM, Rob wrote: > I can host it for you if you want. I have a vps offsite. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@baechler.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > <speakup@linux-speakup.org> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: GRML and Speakup > > >> On 10/2/2015 10:46 AM, Techswing33 wrote: >>> I second this. I've tried to do this in the past, but all the isos >>> I've made then tried to boot have been nnonbootable. >> >> >> I am working on a rescue CD based on Debian. That is to say it is >> 99% Debian packages with very minor adjustments for accessibility. >> It now even includes the Debian Installer, so you can install an >> official Debian system on your machine. It comes up talking on two >> real machines and in a VM, but it needs wider testing. I do have >> brltty enabled, but I don't have a Braille display. It has most >> standard tools you would expect, plus you can install others if you >> want. If you want a talking system out of the box, you can install >> the live system to your hard drive, but I don't recommend this. >> Unlike other CDs, it should come up talking automatically and >> includes non-free firmware, so your wireless network should be detected. >> >> There is just one small problem. That is the bandwidth. I hesitate >> to give out a download location here because I don't want my server >> to get flooded with hits. Therefore, if you want it, please write >> off list. I will eventually find a better hosting solution, but >> mirrors are welcome. It's currently 64-bit only, but once it's >> stable, I plan to produce a 32-bit version and DVDs with a GUI. I am >> guessing I'll need about 12.5 GB total, but not for now. >> >> If this interests you, please test. It needs testing on as much >> hardware as possible. I think I included most important packages, >> but if you think something is missing, please let me know. I plan to >> eventually set up a mailing list, but not until it gets more testing. >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` John G. Heim @ ` Tony Baechler ` John G. Heim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks very much. Do I have to join? I looked at your pages (iavit.org/~john/) and got nothing. See my previous post. If you can give me preferrably ssh access or at least rsync, I'm interested. If you just want to automatically mirror, that could be fine, but it would probably have to be with rsync. I'm not even close to coming up with docs or any kind of release schedule yet. Since it's based on Debian testing, packages should be updated fairly often, but I haven't determined an update schedule either. The point is I would need to be able to push updates somewhat often. I would probably also need a writable directory for at least a basic web page and the various images, checksums, etc. On 10/3/2015 9:33 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > The International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists would make > space available on our server for that. See www.iavit.org. > > > On 10/03/2015 10:29 AM, Rob wrote: >> I can host it for you if you want. I have a vps offsite. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Tony Baechler @ ` John G. Heim ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: John G. Heim @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. There is really nothing to join. It's not like there are dues or anything. We have both a mediawiki wiki and a wordpress blog. I don't know anything about posting files with either mediawiki or wordpress although I'm sure it can be done. I would think having either a wiki page or a blog would be important regardless of how the upload is done. When people ask about a talking version of debian, you'd point them to the wiki or to your blog. You know what might be cool would be for me to set you up as a blogger and you could write a debian accessibility blog. Possible topics could be your own talking distro, the grub-init-tune script I wrote, and patching a kernel for speakup. I can help you with ideas for topics and with the technical stuff. Not to say you need technical help but I could make it so at least some of your blog posts didn't take a whole lot of work on your part. I'm sure the people on this list would help too. I can give you ssh access and create a blog for you. Or you can just sign up at the wiki yourself. I think if you really want to do it right, what you might want to do is write a blog at www.iavit.org and post the downloads at sourceforge or someplace. I used to have a sourceforge account but they broke accessibility for a short time years ago and I haven't been back since. But it seems a lot of people post their files there. Must be something to it. On 10/04/2015 04:31 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: > Thanks very much. Do I have to join? I looked at your pages > (iavit.org/~john/) and got nothing. See my previous post. If you can > give me preferrably ssh access or at least rsync, I'm interested. If > you just want to automatically mirror, that could be fine, but it > would probably have to be with rsync. I'm not even close to coming up > with docs or any kind of release schedule yet. Since it's based on > Debian testing, packages should be updated fairly often, but I haven't > determined an update schedule either. The point is I would need to be > able to push updates somewhat often. I would probably also need a > writable directory for at least a basic web page and the various > images, checksums, etc. > > On 10/3/2015 9:33 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >> The International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists >> would make >> space available on our server for that. See www.iavit.org. >> >> >> On 10/03/2015 10:29 AM, Rob wrote: >>> I can host it for you if you want. I have a vps offsite. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` John G. Heim @ ` Tony Baechler 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On 10/4/2015 9:48 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > There is really nothing to join. It's not like there are dues or anything. > We have both a mediawiki wiki and a wordpress blog. I don't know anything > about posting files with either mediawiki or wordpress although I'm sure it > can be done. I would think having either a wiki page or a blog would be > important regardless of how the upload is done. When people ask about a > talking version of debian, you'd point them to the wiki or to your blog. I have used WP before. I found the accessibility fair. I think Drupal has better accessibility, but I haven't tried it in years. For a basic download, either a wiki or WP content upload is more effort than I want to go through, especially for minor updates. That's why I would really prefer the rsync option. All I need is hosting for the images and chroots. I have a server and lots of web space, but it's the bandwidth for the images that worries me. > > You know what might be cool would be for me to set you up as a blogger and > you could write a debian accessibility blog. Possible topics could be your > own talking distro, the grub-init-tune script I wrote, and patching a kernel > for speakup. I can help you with ideas for topics and with the technical > stuff. Not to say you need technical help but I could make it so at least > some of your blog posts didn't take a whole lot of work on your part. I'm > sure the people on this list would help too. Thanks, but no. I'm working on starting my own business and I can host my own blog on my site when I'm ready, but I'm not to that point yet. I'm not much for writing long blog posts anyway. I am happy to offer my CD images as a public service, but when Debian gets a talking live CD which works like D-I, my CD images will serve no purpose. To go back to an earlier discussion on this list, I built my rescue CD for two reasons. First, because I had a request. Second, I needed one and one wasn't easily available. The Debian 8.2.0 live CD images don't currently include a rescue CD, or if they do, I missed it. My ultimate goal, quite frankly, is to get people interested in Linux and sell Linux support services. > > I can give you ssh access and create a blog for you. Or you can just sign > up at the wiki yourself. I think if you really want to do it right, what you > might want to do is write a blog at www.iavit.org and post the downloads at > sourceforge or someplace. I used to have a sourceforge account but they > broke accessibility for a short time years ago and I haven't been back > since. But it seems a lot of people post their files there. Must be > something to it. Yes, I took a look at Source Forge. They seemed to have good accessibility. I don't know if there is a limit on how much I can upload. That is certainly a viable option and worthy of further consideration. I'm still refining my build process and am not ready to produce source images. A requirement of SF is full sources must be included. I'm not clear from the above paragraph if you're actually offering hosting for the images or not. Yes, ssh access would be appreciated, but if I can't host images for download, there probably is little point. -------------------- Tony Baechler, founder, Baechler Access Technology Services Putting accessibility at the forefront of technology mailto:bats@batsupport.com Phone: 1-619-746-8310 Fax: 1-619-449-9898 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Rob ` John G. Heim @ ` Tony Baechler 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks. I'll need to be able to upload modified versions on a somewhat regular basis. I'll eventually have both 32-bit and 64-bit CD images. I'm hoping to have DVD images with live desktops, but I'm not to that point yet. Since things are still in the testing phase, new images with relatively small corrections come out on a semiregular basis, so probably rsync access is best. Also, how much transfer bandwidth do you get per month? With each CD image at about 700 MB, I don't expect a ton of downloads, but if a few dozen people download it, it adds up fast. Finally, where is the VPS located? I would want international mirrors and reasonably good download speeds due to the large image sizes. On 10/3/2015 8:29 AM, Rob wrote: > I can host it for you if you want. I have a vps offsite. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: GRML and Speakup GRML and Speakup Edgar Lozano ` covici @ ` mike ` Rob 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: mike @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi, I have built a Linux from scratch with a debian host but never got Speakup to work with it. I could not find any good instructions for enabling it in the kernel or the best way to go about building the sound system. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Edgar Lozano Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:11 PM To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: GRML and Speakup Hi, Just wondering if someone could provide me with the steps to get grml talking with Speakup? I'm using the 2014.11 iso image. I heard a well-done podcast in which the command "grml swspeakup" was provided as a boot command. Does this still work? It was an informative one over the installation of Arch using this live environment. Unfortunately, it seems a bit out of date. Otherwise, what steps are needed to get this thing speaking to me? Also, just as an aside, has anyone tried following through with one of those Linux from Scratch (build-it-yourself) projects? Is it worth doing? Is there potential accessibility support with Speakup? that is, can the program be incorporated into a custom Linux environment? I read somewhere that the live LFS live distribution has Speakup on it. Sorry, I've been growing somewhat obsessed with Linux and want to understand as much as possible about building and deploying live environments that provide spoken feedback upon boot for system administration. Thanks in advance. -- Thanks for reading. Have a good day. If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and check us out. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` mike @ ` Rob ` Edgar Lozano ` mike 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Rob @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. mike <mmstopka28@gmail.com> wrote: > I have built a Linux from scratch with a debian host but never got Speakup > to work with it. I could not find any good instructions for enabling it in > the kernel or the best way to go about building the sound system. I built LFS 7.7 and have it running with both speakup and Brltty. All you have to do is select the staging drivers/speakup and the sound support item in the kernel configuration. Install alsa-stuff. Add your appropriate kernel modules in the appropriate files; the book tells you where to add modules, should you need them that aren't autoloaded by the kernel. What I then did was copy my voxin libs from the host into my new system, add the right init script to have the connector come up and bingo. I had speakup going. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Rob @ ` Edgar Lozano ` covici ` mike 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Edgar Lozano @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks for those instructions on enabling Speakup within GRML. It definitely works. However, is there a way to turn the beep volume down before booting? I was startled by the very loud four-beep sequence that my laptop generated upon entering the root prompt. Rob, you make it sound so easy. That is, building LFS with Speakup. Are there any concrete example you may be able to give to accomplish this. Maybe like a short summary of the commands you had to enter to enable the staging tree driver? I must admit, I am a relative newcomer to the Linux world, and probably the most advanced task that I've done has been to install Arch successfully on an old computer, with the aid of the Talking Arch image, of course. However, I want to dig deeper into the Linux development structure so that I can start creating and tinkering with live images with speech in mind. I've made a few useful apps here and there for use within the console, but remastering and such is a whole different area that I want to understand. On 9/29/15, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote: > mike <mmstopka28@gmail.com> wrote: >> I have built a Linux from scratch with a debian host but never got Speakup >> >> to work with it. I could not find any good instructions for enabling it in >> >> the kernel or the best way to go about building the sound system. > I built LFS 7.7 and have it running with both speakup and Brltty. All you > have to do is select the staging drivers/speakup and the sound support item > in the kernel configuration. Install alsa-stuff. Add your appropriate kernel > modules in the appropriate files; the book tells you where to add modules, > should you need them that aren't autoloaded by the kernel. What I then did > was copy my voxin libs from the host into my new system, add the right init > script to have the connector come up and bingo. I had speakup going. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Thanks for reading. Have a good day. If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and check us out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` Edgar Lozano @ ` covici ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The beep volume is out of the internal speaker -- mine is pretty low, in fact. Edgar Lozano <1419goku@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for those instructions on enabling Speakup within GRML. It > definitely works. However, is there a way to turn the beep volume down > before booting? I was startled by the very loud four-beep sequence > that my laptop generated upon entering the root prompt. > Rob, you make it sound so easy. That is, building LFS with Speakup. > Are there any concrete example you may be able to give to accomplish > this. Maybe like a short summary of the commands you had to enter to > enable the staging tree driver? I must admit, I am a relative newcomer > to the Linux world, and probably the most advanced task that I've done > has been to install Arch successfully on an old computer, with the aid > of the Talking Arch image, of course. However, I want to dig deeper > into the Linux development structure so that I can start creating and > tinkering with live images with speech in mind. I've made a few useful > apps here and there for use within the console, but remastering and > such is a whole different area that I want to understand. > > On 9/29/15, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote: > > mike <mmstopka28@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have built a Linux from scratch with a debian host but never got Speakup > >> > >> to work with it. I could not find any good instructions for enabling it in > >> > >> the kernel or the best way to go about building the sound system. > > I built LFS 7.7 and have it running with both speakup and Brltty. All you > > have to do is select the staging drivers/speakup and the sound support item > > in the kernel configuration. Install alsa-stuff. Add your appropriate kernel > > modules in the appropriate files; the book tells you where to add modules, > > should you need them that aren't autoloaded by the kernel. What I then did > > was copy my voxin libs from the host into my new system, add the right init > > script to have the connector come up and bingo. I had speakup going. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > -- > Thanks for reading. > Have a good day. > If you ever get the chance, go to http://www.realrandomradio.com and > check us out. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: GRML and Speakup ` covici @ ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On my desktop systems it isn't bad. My laptop is a different story though. This is especially true if I'm doing something late in the evening when I'm the only one awake with headphones on. If I forget about that beep sequence it's loud, and doesn't go through my headphones. I've winced and whispered oops under my breath more than once. Once the OS boots though, the beep volume is controllable, and does go through headphones if they're connected. It's only when the BIOS is in control that this is a problem. Even when everyone is awake during the day, I've been asked more than once if that was me. Greg On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:00:37AM -0400, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote: > The beep volume is out of the internal speaker -- mine is pretty low, in > fact. -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: GRML and Speakup ` Rob ` Edgar Lozano @ ` mike 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: mike @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Hi, I will have to look closer at this I can get the system build accept for that part. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:06 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org> Subject: Re: GRML and Speakup mike <mmstopka28@gmail.com> wrote: > I have built a Linux from scratch with a debian host but never got Speakup > to work with it. I could not find any good instructions for enabling it in > the kernel or the best way to go about building the sound system. I built LFS 7.7 and have it running with both speakup and Brltty. All you have to do is select the staging drivers/speakup and the sound support item in the kernel configuration. Install alsa-stuff. Add your appropriate kernel modules in the appropriate files; the book tells you where to add modules, should you need them that aren't autoloaded by the kernel. What I then did was copy my voxin libs from the host into my new system, add the right init script to have the connector come up and bingo. I had speakup going. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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