cygwin question

cygwin question

[Tyler Littlefield]

Hello,
I was wondering how much experience everyone have had with cygwin and jaws.
When I try to select packages, it's not accessible at all. Is there a way I can do this without fighting with the installer?


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.

RE: cygwin question

[Tom Moore]

Sure is.
If you know what the package you want to install is called open up
/etc/setup/installed.db with notepad and the list is in alphabetical order
just put your package in the slot it needs to be in like this:
My_package my_package.tar.bz2 0
Then run the setup program again and it will update it to the latest version
and there you go.

Tom

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On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:39 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: cygwin question

Hello,
I was wondering how much experience everyone have had with cygwin and jaws.
When I try to select packages, it's not accessible at all. Is there a way I
can do this without fighting with the installer?


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
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Re: cygwin question

[Gregory Nowak]

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As far as I know, this is an issue with the cygwin installer, and
isn't limited to jaws only. Another, easier in my opinion solution,
is to deselect all packages, and just select the ones you want by
pressing spacebar on them to check them for installation.

Greg


On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:39:23AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering how much experience everyone have had with cygwin and jaws.
> When I try to select packages, it's not accessible at all. Is there a way I can do this without fighting with the installer?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> Web: tysdomain.com
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: cygwin question

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
It's not downloading the packages after I edited the list.
I'm not even able to get a list of packages. I just see some radio butttons, 
view and a checkbox.


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: cygwin question


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> As far as I know, this is an issue with the cygwin installer, and
> isn't limited to jaws only. Another, easier in my opinion solution,
> is to deselect all packages, and just select the ones you want by
> pressing spacebar on them to check them for installation.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:39:23AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I was wondering how much experience everyone have had with cygwin and 
>> jaws.
>> When I try to select packages, it's not accessible at all. Is there a way 
>> I can do this without fighting with the installer?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> Web: tysdomain.com
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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Re: cygwin question

[Tony Baechler]

Try tne new 1.7 setup.  It's supposed to have command line options and 
should be easier to use but I haven't tried it.  You can install 
manually although that's not recommended.  You can also just install 
everything and not worry about selecting individual packages.

Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering how much experience everyone have had with cygwin and jaws.
> When I try to select packages, it's not accessible at all. Is there a way I can do this without fighting with the installer?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> Web: tysdomain.com
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>   

Re: cygwin question

[Cheryl Homiak]

I installed cygwin but with Windoweyes not Jaws. I'd just install 
everything and not worry about selecting packages. When I installed with 
windoweyes, I never was able to find a way to get the right selection made 
to install everything using speech though I'm sure there must be a way; I 
used my braillelite and pressed andheld the cursor routing button in front 
of the first letter of my selection until the word changed to "install".



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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: cygwin question

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I don't have a braille display, sadly. I think my best bet is to look for 
the older version people were talking about.


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@charter.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: cygwin question


>I installed cygwin but with Windoweyes not Jaws. I'd just install 
>everything and not worry about selecting packages. When I installed with 
>windoweyes, I never was able to find a way to get the right selection made 
>to install everything using speech though I'm sure there must be a way; I 
>used my braillelite and pressed andheld the cursor routing button in front 
>of the first letter of my selection until the word changed to "install".
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheryl
>
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
>
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Re: cygwin question

[Alex Snow]

If you have Jaws, you can use the jaws cursor to find the list of 
packages, and use the mouse buttons to click on them to change them 
from default/install/update/remove as you need.  This has worked well 
for me in the past, though isn't the easiest thing to do.
On Tue, Apr 14, 
2009 at 07:53:38AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> hello,
> I don't have a braille display, sadly. I think my best bet is to look for 
> the older version people were talking about.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> Web: tysdomain.com
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@charter.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: cygwin question
> 
> 
> >I installed cygwin but with Windoweyes not Jaws. I'd just install 
> >everything and not worry about selecting packages. When I installed with 
> >windoweyes, I never was able to find a way to get the right selection made 
> >to install everything using speech though I'm sure there must be a way; I 
> >used my braillelite and pressed andheld the cursor routing button in front 
> >of the first letter of my selection until the word changed to "install".
> >
> >
> >
> >-- 
> >Cheryl
> >
> >"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 
> 
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Re: cygwin question

[Tyler Littlefield]

I don't see a list with the cursor. I tried that approach.


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: cygwin question


> If you have Jaws, you can use the jaws cursor to find the list of
> packages, and use the mouse buttons to click on them to change them
> from default/install/update/remove as you need.  This has worked well
> for me in the past, though isn't the easiest thing to do.
> On Tue, Apr 14,
> 2009 at 07:53:38AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> hello,
>> I don't have a braille display, sadly. I think my best bet is to look for
>> the older version people were talking about.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> Web: tysdomain.com
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@charter.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: cygwin question
>>
>>
>> >I installed cygwin but with Windoweyes not Jaws. I'd just install
>> >everything and not worry about selecting packages. When I installed with
>> >windoweyes, I never was able to find a way to get the right selection 
>> >made
>> >to install everything using speech though I'm sure there must be a way; 
>> >I
>> >used my braillelite and pressed andheld the cursor routing button in 
>> >front
>> >of the first letter of my selection until the word changed to "install".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-- 
>> >Cheryl
>> >
>> >"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Speakup mailing list
>> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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> Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished?
> -- Hasse Skrifvars, hasku@rost.abo.fi,
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Re: cygwin question

[Tyler Spivey]

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Ok. Taking the latest cygwin setup.exe, and hitting next a bunch of times, we eventually get to the
screen with the radio buttons - curr, prev, etc. Keep it on Curr.
Route jaws to pc, go down. The list is there with everything closed by default. if you click on a category,
it'll open and you can see the packages below it. For example,
Devel.
To scroll down, just click on the scroll down symbol as reported by JAWS.
If you click on the word next to the package (skip, or the version number), it'll switch among the various versions or skip.
If you click on the word default next to a  category, it will
cycle from default, install, reinstall, uninstall, and back to default.
Hope this helps,
Tyler
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> I don't see a list with the cursor. I tried that approach.
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Re: cygwin question

[Tony Baechler]

Umm, since 1.7 is more accessible and 1.5 is about to go into permanent 
deep freeze, why?  At least 1.7 has command line support which 1.5 
doesn't.  Yes, you can install everything with the mouse cursor in 1.5 
with Window-Eyes.  Granted, 1.7 is still considered in beta and I 
haven't tried it, but since that is the future of Cygwin and is a lot 
more *nix-like, why would you want to use something older?  The only 
reason would be if you have Windows 95 or 98 which will not run 1.7.  If 
you have 2000 or newer, 1.7 makes more sense.

Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> I don't have a braille display, sadly. I think my best bet is to look 
> for the older version people were talking about.