* having trouble when back spacing @ Scott Berry ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Scott Berry @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi there list, I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not working either. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing having trouble when back spacing Scott Berry @ ` Steve Holmes ` John Covici ` Sean McMahon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my opinion - not fact by any means. As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted laptop experience, this feature is great. On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: > Hi there list, > > I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read > the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup > 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not > working either. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing ` Steve Holmes @ ` John Covici ` Steve Holmes ` (2 more replies) ` Sean McMahon 1 sibling, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: John Covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I am not seeing this -- what do you hear when you backspace in Emacs -- it works fine particularly when I silence the next to the last line, but even if I do not, it works for me. I am using the latest CVS with either 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 test11. I think this is as of December 11th. on Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:29:49 -0700 Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote: > Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow > keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the > cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my > opinion - not fact by any means. > > As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when > pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a > speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to > help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted > laptop experience, this feature is great. > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: >> Hi there list, >> >> I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read >> the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup >> 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not >> working either. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing ` John Covici @ ` Steve Holmes ` Hart Larry ` Using Emacs, was " Krister Ekstrom 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I'm at work now so can't tell you for sure but I recall it either saying space or something; I would rarely hear the next char the cursor should/would end up on. When I use left and right arrow keys, the proper character is always spoken. Infact, when I'm using a local machine and not an ssh session, I can scroll down through an entire file with no problems reading ever. If I'm on an ssh session or such, sometimes speakup picks up the wrong text when emacs scrolls up a half-screen like it normally does but I just chock that up to delays in the network connection.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Covici" <covici@ccs.covici.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: Re: having trouble when back spacing > I am not seeing this -- what do you hear when you backspace in > Emacs -- it works fine particularly when I silence the next to the > last line, but even if I do not, it works for me. I am using the > latest CVS with either 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 test11. I think this is as of > December 11th. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing ` John Covici ` Steve Holmes @ ` Hart Larry ` Scott Berry ` Using Emacs, was " Krister Ekstrom 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok, especially while in Pico or Pine, I can back-space and I do not hear the chictors which are deleted. Hart ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing ` Hart Larry @ ` Scott Berry 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Scott Berry @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yeah in Pico I am getting the same thing. On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Hart Larry wrote: > Ok, especially while in Pico or Pine, I can back-space and I do not hear the > chictors which are deleted. > Hart > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Using Emacs, was Re: having trouble when back spacing ` John Covici ` Steve Holmes ` Hart Larry @ ` Krister Ekstrom ` Erik Heil 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Krister Ekstrom @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi John, Ok, i realize this isn't exactly on-topic at least not in this thread, which is why i changed subject, but i see Emacs mentioned here and so i wonder what difference if any there is between using Emacs with Speakup rather than using it with its own Emacspeak. What if anything do i miss if using Speakup rather than Emacspeak and if Emacspeak is the prefered method, is there any free speech synth or hardware one that works particularly well with it and if Emacspeak and Speakup can coexist happily? Note: i'm not looking for docs, but rather opinions from y'all. /K - -----Original thread follows----- On 17 Dec 2003 10:56:12 (my local time 16:56:12), you typed:: JC> I am not seeing this -- what do you hear when you backspace in JC> Emacs -- it works fine particularly when I silence the next to the JC> last line, but even if I do not, it works for me. I am using the JC> latest CVS with either 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 test11. I think this is as of JC> December 11th. JC> on Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:29:49 -0700 Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote: >> Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow >> keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the >> cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my >> opinion - not fact by any means. >> >> As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when >> pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a >> speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to >> help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted >> laptop experience, this feature is great. >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: >>> Hi there list, >>> >>> I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read >>> the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup >>> 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not >>> working either. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >> >> -- >> HolmesGrown Solutions >> The best solutions for the best price! >> http://ld.net/?holmesgrown >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- /Krister crisekstrom@bredband.net Get pgp keys here: mailto:crisekstrom@bredband.net?subject=get_pgp_keys -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/4JB7ODlJeoMTOQsRAyE7AJ9LR0hdIbi+BvZ9zq3oPV1mSS4UDwCfWYNx 6Aog7VWUA308XKN6R4fgxDs= =p/LF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Using Emacs, was Re: having trouble when back spacing ` Using Emacs, was " Krister Ekstrom @ ` Erik Heil 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Krister Ekstrom, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. EmacsSpeak has speech-enabled items and was expressly written for Emacs. When you take that into consideration, Emacspeak has considerable development and is mature and stable. For free software synths, Festival and Flite work fine with Emacspeak and are totally free. I don't know what distro you are running, but I know for a fact that Flite has a RPM distro, should you choose this synth. Flite though isn't on the high quality side of things, IMHO I rather would use Festival. Note if you have a hardware synth, you can get Speakup and Emacspeak to cooperate quite nicely, just disable Speakup in whatever console you run Emacspeak in. If you have any other questions, feel free to e-mail me off-list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" <crisekstrom@bredband.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Using Emacs, was Re: having trouble when back spacing -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi John, Ok, i realize this isn't exactly on-topic at least not in this thread, which is why i changed subject, but i see Emacs mentioned here and so i wonder what difference if any there is between using Emacs with Speakup rather than using it with its own Emacspeak. What if anything do i miss if using Speakup rather than Emacspeak and if Emacspeak is the prefered method, is there any free speech synth or hardware one that works particularly well with it and if Emacspeak and Speakup can coexist happily? Note: i'm not looking for docs, but rather opinions from y'all. /K - -----Original thread follows----- On 17 Dec 2003 10:56:12 (my local time 16:56:12), you typed:: JC> I am not seeing this -- what do you hear when you backspace in JC> Emacs -- it works fine particularly when I silence the next to the JC> last line, but even if I do not, it works for me. I am using the JC> latest CVS with either 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 test11. I think this is as of JC> December 11th. JC> on Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:29:49 -0700 Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote: >> Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow >> keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the >> cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my >> opinion - not fact by any means. >> >> As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when >> pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a >> speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to >> help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted >> laptop experience, this feature is great. >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: >>> Hi there list, >>> >>> I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read >>> the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup >>> 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not >>> working either. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >> >> -- >> HolmesGrown Solutions >> The best solutions for the best price! >> http://ld.net/?holmesgrown >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- /Krister crisekstrom@bredband.net Get pgp keys here: mailto:crisekstrom@bredband.net?subject=get_pgp_keys -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/4JB7ODlJeoMTOQsRAyE7AJ9LR0hdIbi+BvZ9zq3oPV1mSS4UDwCfWYNx 6Aog7VWUA308XKN6R4fgxDs= =p/LF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: having trouble when back spacing ` Steve Holmes ` John Covici @ ` Sean McMahon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If backspace is only a problem in emacs try unseting display and resetting terminal to something like vt100 or ansi. I notice the same strangeness in emacs of course you can always use the del key for backspace. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:29 PM Subject: Re: having trouble when back spacing > Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow > keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the > cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my > opinion - not fact by any means. > > As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when > pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a > speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to > help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted > laptop experience, this feature is great. > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: > > Hi there list, > > > > I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read > > the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup > > 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not > > working either. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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