From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.126]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AX1jn-0001NR-00 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:14:59 -0500 Received: from user51.net825.nj.sprint-hsd.net ([65.41.246.51] helo=eheil) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AX1ji-0001La-00; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:14:54 -0800 Message-ID: <029401c3c58a$75de0870$0201a8c0@eheil> From: "Erik Heil" To: "Krister Ekstrom" , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20031217032948.GC861@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <773474896.20031217182048@bredband.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:14:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: Subject: Re: Using Emacs, was Re: having trouble when back spacing X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Erik Heil , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:14:59 -0000 Hi. EmacsSpeak has speech-enabled items and was expressly written for Emacs. When you take that into consideration, Emacspeak has considerable development and is mature and stable. For free software synths, Festival and Flite work fine with Emacspeak and are totally free. I don't know what distro you are running, but I know for a fact that Flite has a RPM distro, should you choose this synth. Flite though isn't on the high quality side of things, IMHO I rather would use Festival. Note if you have a hardware synth, you can get Speakup and Emacspeak to cooperate quite nicely, just disable Speakup in whatever console you run Emacspeak in. If you have any other questions, feel free to e-mail me off-list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Using Emacs, was Re: having trouble when back spacing -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi John, Ok, i realize this isn't exactly on-topic at least not in this thread, which is why i changed subject, but i see Emacs mentioned here and so i wonder what difference if any there is between using Emacs with Speakup rather than using it with its own Emacspeak. What if anything do i miss if using Speakup rather than Emacspeak and if Emacspeak is the prefered method, is there any free speech synth or hardware one that works particularly well with it and if Emacspeak and Speakup can coexist happily? Note: i'm not looking for docs, but rather opinions from y'all. /K - -----Original thread follows----- On 17 Dec 2003 10:56:12 (my local time 16:56:12), you typed:: JC> I am not seeing this -- what do you hear when you backspace in JC> Emacs -- it works fine particularly when I silence the next to the JC> last line, but even if I do not, it works for me. I am using the JC> latest CVS with either 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 test11. I think this is as of JC> December 11th. JC> on Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:29:49 -0700 Steve Holmes wrote: >> Yes, I notice the same problem particularly while in emacs. The arrow >> keys work fantastically but I think emacs messes around with the >> cursor or something so speakup gets confused. At least that is my >> opinion - not fact by any means. >> >> As for caps lock not working, try sholding down the shift key when >> pressing caps lock. The caps lock without any enhancements acts as a >> speakup key like the insert key does on the numpad. This is done to >> help accomodate laptop users and I must say that with my limitted >> laptop experience, this feature is great. >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: >>> Hi there list, >>> >>> I am having problems when I use the backspace key it does not want to read >>> the letter or letters that it is backspacing over. I am using Speakup >>> 2.00cvs. Is there anything I can do about this. Also my caps lock is not >>> working either. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >> >> -- >> HolmesGrown Solutions >> The best solutions for the best price! >> http://ld.net/?holmesgrown >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- /Krister crisekstrom@bredband.net Get pgp keys here: mailto:crisekstrom@bredband.net?subject=get_pgp_keys -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-nr2 (Windows XP) iD8DBQE/4JB7ODlJeoMTOQsRAyE7AJ9LR0hdIbi+BvZ9zq3oPV1mSS4UDwCfWYNx 6Aog7VWUA308XKN6R4fgxDs= =p/LF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup