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* installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
@  Jacob Schmude
   ` Tom Moore
   ` Thomas Stivers
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jacob Schmude @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi all

I need to install Linux  on a computer to act as a server.  
Unfortunately, the system is without serial ports and sighted  
assistance is not, repeat not, available. I've tried installing  
fedora core 4 via telnet, but the NIC on this system which has an  
nVidia NForce chipset is not one of the drivers loaded when doing a  
telnet install. Is there any way to install either slackware or  
debian via telnet?

Thanks



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* RE: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
   installing Slackware or debian via telnet? Jacob Schmude
@  ` Tom Moore
     ` Jacob Schmude
   ` Thomas Stivers
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tom Moore @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Nope.
Gentoo may work.
Slackware or Debian don't support network based installs.

Tom
 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:34 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?

Hi all

I need to install Linux  on a computer to act as a server.  
Unfortunately, the system is without serial ports and sighted  
assistance is not, repeat not, available. I've tried installing  
fedora core 4 via telnet, but the NIC on this system which has an  
nVidia NForce chipset is not one of the drivers loaded when doing a  
telnet install. Is there any way to install either slackware or  
debian via telnet?

Thanks


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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
   ` Tom Moore
@    ` Jacob Schmude
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jacob Schmude @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi
Yes, Gentoo could be installed that way, but I find compiling just  
about everything from source to be rather annoying. Maybe I can get a  
telnet server onto the slackware initrd.


On Feb 21, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Tom Moore wrote:

> Nope.
> Gentoo may work.
> Slackware or Debian don't support network based installs.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- 
> bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:34 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
>
> Hi all
>
> I need to install Linux  on a computer to act as a server.
> Unfortunately, the system is without serial ports and sighted
> assistance is not, repeat not, available. I've tried installing
> fedora core 4 via telnet, but the NIC on this system which has an
> nVidia NForce chipset is not one of the drivers loaded when doing a
> telnet install. Is there any way to install either slackware or
> debian via telnet?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
   installing Slackware or debian via telnet? Jacob Schmude
   ` Tom Moore
@  ` Thomas Stivers
     ` Kirk Reiser
     ` hank smith
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:33:51 PM -0700, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I need to install Linux  on a computer to act as a server.  
> Unfortunately, the system is without serial ports and sighted  
> assistance is not, repeat not, available. I've tried installing  
> fedora core 4 via telnet, but the NIC on this system which has an  
> nVidia NForce chipset is not one of the drivers loaded when doing a  
> telnet install. Is there any way to install either slackware or  
> debian via telnet?

You might try using the trml live cd. It supports both software speech
from the live cd and starting up an ssh server with boot parameters.
Once you have the live cd up and running you can then bootstrap a debian
install on the hard drive. I'm not sure about installing grml to the hd
though because then AFAICT its not a straight upgrade path to a debian
system. If you absolutely need telnet rather than ssh I think you can
start the telnet service from the boot prompt as well, but I don't know
how off hand.

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
   ` Thomas Stivers
@    ` Kirk Reiser
       [not found]     ` <20060222222235.GB29581@cm.nu>
     ` hank smith
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I will agree with Tom here.  I usually start with a knoppix or grml
disk to get a system up and then something I'm fond of doing is create
partitions and rsync the data from another box providing you have
network access.  I have install dozens of systems using this scenario
and it works quite well.  You just need to remember to use the
--exclude flag of rsync for things like /proc and directory structures
which are mounted on the machine you are rsync'ing from.  You also
need to remember to mount the root partition and run lilo with the -r
flag before rebooting.  I'm not sure about that flag though, I always
have to look it up before I do it.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061


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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
   ` Thomas Stivers
     ` Kirk Reiser
@    ` hank smith
       ` Michael Prokop
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: hank smith @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

how do you start software speech with grml?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Stivers" <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?


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> On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:33:51 PM -0700, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I need to install Linux  on a computer to act as a server.  
>> Unfortunately, the system is without serial ports and sighted  
>> assistance is not, repeat not, available. I've tried installing  
>> fedora core 4 via telnet, but the NIC on this system which has an  
>> nVidia NForce chipset is not one of the drivers loaded when doing a  
>> telnet install. Is there any way to install either slackware or  
>> debian via telnet?
> 
> You might try using the trml live cd. It supports both software speech
> from the live cd and starting up an ssh server with boot parameters.
> Once you have the live cd up and running you can then bootstrap a debian
> install on the hard drive. I'm not sure about installing grml to the hd
> though because then AFAICT its not a straight upgrade path to a debian
> system. If you absolutely need telnet rather than ssh I think you can
> start the telnet service from the boot prompt as well, but I don't know
> how off hand.
> 
> - -- 
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
> by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
> 
> Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
     ` hank smith
@      ` Michael Prokop
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Prokop @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

* hank smith <hanksmith4@earthlink.net> wrote:

> how do you start software speech with grml?

Boot with 'grml swspeak' and run 'speechd-up' when sitting at the
prompt (grml has finished booting then).

regards,
-mika-
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(  grml.org -» Linux Live-CD for texttool-users and sysadmins
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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
       [not found]     ` <20060222222235.GB29581@cm.nu>
@        ` Tyler Spivey
           ` Lorenzo Taylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tyler Spivey @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

GRML is a great solution. I just installed Debian this way, since
debootstrap is included on the cd. It does work, and me being a newbie
to deiban (atleast the current one;been using arch for a while), I was
able to get it up and running.



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* Re: installing Slackware or debian via telnet?
         ` Tyler Spivey
@          ` Lorenzo Taylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Taylor @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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I only wish there was a way to use the Debian installer over telnet or
ssh.  There are a lot of things the Debian installer configures when you
answer those questions.  Unless the Debian people have updated it,
debootstrap doesn't give you a preliminary fstab and interfaces file
among many other things.  Those files then have to be created from
scratch, which makes the installation take much longer.  I prefer
editing an existing file over creating it from scratch.  Just my
personal preference.

Lorenzo
- -- 
You'll never see all the places, or read all the books, but fortunately,
they're not all recommended.
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